Dilawar Syed July 20, 2007
#178 Posted by jayp on July 26, 2007 3:04:45 am
Empowering new
reproduced by yasser latif hamdani, newyork, USA
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From newyork times.
The testing Hasif 4 cruise missile by pakistan is of concern to the plans of attacking targets in waziristan, a pentagon spokes man said today. The military balance between Nato forces in afghanistan against the pak forces is being reviewed. Patriot anti missile batteries from Israel and Korea are being shifted to afghan borders. The B52s in Deigo Gracia are being moved to bomb shelters.
President has ordered that there will be no more talk of independant action by the US forces. The awesome capability of the pak missiles has permanently altered the force balance globally, and the US will here after seek to work cooperatively with pakistan.
In the middle east peace process, the quartet has been expanded to pentlets to accommodate pakistan.
reproduced by yasser latif hamdani, newyork, USA
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From newyork times.
The testing Hasif 4 cruise missile by pakistan is of concern to the plans of attacking targets in waziristan, a pentagon spokes man said today. The military balance between Nato forces in afghanistan against the pak forces is being reviewed. Patriot anti missile batteries from Israel and Korea are being shifted to afghan borders. The B52s in Deigo Gracia are being moved to bomb shelters.
President has ordered that there will be no more talk of independant action by the US forces. The awesome capability of the pak missiles has permanently altered the force balance globally, and the US will here after seek to work cooperatively with pakistan.
In the middle east peace process, the quartet has been expanded to pentlets to accommodate pakistan.
#177 Posted by jayp on July 26, 2007 1:44:05 am
Very very empowering
Letter from yasser latif hamdani, New york, USA.
I feel very jealous of the people of pakistan, and how empowered they will be feeling. More than ever before, I regret the day when I took a flight to USA for higher studies, fifteen years ago and never returned. How happy I would have been, if I were not to catch that flight, if the US had not given me a student visa.
In pakistan people have elected the president, he sacked a CJ, and a few judges, in fact 7 of them, never elected, but told the president that he was wrong, told the elected representative of the people that he cannot sack one person.
The elected representative of the people have been over ruled, and that is really empowering news for the people of pakistan.
Their elected representative does not count, he is nobody, and that is very empowering for the pakistanis.
You are a very lucky lot.
I still regret that I cannot be part of this joyous moment, it is all due to the US student visa. US murdabad.
Letter from yasser latif hamdani, New york, USA.
I feel very jealous of the people of pakistan, and how empowered they will be feeling. More than ever before, I regret the day when I took a flight to USA for higher studies, fifteen years ago and never returned. How happy I would have been, if I were not to catch that flight, if the US had not given me a student visa.
In pakistan people have elected the president, he sacked a CJ, and a few judges, in fact 7 of them, never elected, but told the president that he was wrong, told the elected representative of the people that he cannot sack one person.
The elected representative of the people have been over ruled, and that is really empowering news for the people of pakistan.
Their elected representative does not count, he is nobody, and that is very empowering for the pakistanis.
You are a very lucky lot.
I still regret that I cannot be part of this joyous moment, it is all due to the US student visa. US murdabad.
#176 Posted by jayp on July 26, 2007 1:32:48 am
I feel empowered
A letter from Asma begum Ghazi of Waziristan, pakistan.
Thank you for posting this letter. I have moved out of my home in pakistan with my 3 children, all less than 5 years old, as the pak army has started attacking the village with helicopter gunships. I am a refugee in my own country due to the actions of my own elected government. My brother was killed last year, but my husband was a suicide bember. Now I have no one to support as my husband said talak, talak, talak before he went to buy some food and he did not return.
I am very happy that CJ is back in his seat, I feel very very empowered as I am looking for a -place to sleep, as the sun is about to set.
It is such an empowering feeling.
A letter from Asma begum Ghazi of Waziristan, pakistan.
Thank you for posting this letter. I have moved out of my home in pakistan with my 3 children, all less than 5 years old, as the pak army has started attacking the village with helicopter gunships. I am a refugee in my own country due to the actions of my own elected government. My brother was killed last year, but my husband was a suicide bember. Now I have no one to support as my husband said talak, talak, talak before he went to buy some food and he did not return.
I am very happy that CJ is back in his seat, I feel very very empowered as I am looking for a -place to sleep, as the sun is about to set.
It is such an empowering feeling.
#175 Posted by jayp on July 26, 2007 1:21:27 am
Empowering whom,
All of the educated pakistanis are talking about an irrelevant decision of the supreme court and declaring it as an empowerment of the people.
The only way people can be empowered is when the laws of the country are being enforced and there are no discriminatory laws. What is the case of pakistan, hundreds of non-muslims are sent to prison for blasphemy laws to force them to convert to islam, then talk to the ahmadias.
In pakistan, the social system is un-just, there is no law and order and hence people are making and enforcing their own laws.
How else will you explain the following item from jang of today.
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Sakhakot boasts of one-stop roadside stalls, an "Arms Bazaar" having weapons on display ranging from AK-47s to anti-aircraft machine guns, as well as grenades, landmines, explosives of all kind, etc, and at very competitive prices. One can also place orders in this "Arms R Us", with fairly short delivery time, and at your doorstep anywhere in Pakistan. So much for law enforcement, primarily a subject of the provincial government! One can understand the frustration of the US at our ineptitude, or as they maintain, why are we choosing to be blind?
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Why are the educated of pakistan, the ylh and tahmeds choosing to be blind, why are the english language pak papers talking about a great empowering moment for pakistan.
It is a white washing attempt, the time for it is over. islamic jihadic military state has to be administered euthenasia.
All of the educated pakistanis are talking about an irrelevant decision of the supreme court and declaring it as an empowerment of the people.
The only way people can be empowered is when the laws of the country are being enforced and there are no discriminatory laws. What is the case of pakistan, hundreds of non-muslims are sent to prison for blasphemy laws to force them to convert to islam, then talk to the ahmadias.
In pakistan, the social system is un-just, there is no law and order and hence people are making and enforcing their own laws.
How else will you explain the following item from jang of today.
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Sakhakot boasts of one-stop roadside stalls, an "Arms Bazaar" having weapons on display ranging from AK-47s to anti-aircraft machine guns, as well as grenades, landmines, explosives of all kind, etc, and at very competitive prices. One can also place orders in this "Arms R Us", with fairly short delivery time, and at your doorstep anywhere in Pakistan. So much for law enforcement, primarily a subject of the provincial government! One can understand the frustration of the US at our ineptitude, or as they maintain, why are we choosing to be blind?
///////////////////////
Why are the educated of pakistan, the ylh and tahmeds choosing to be blind, why are the english language pak papers talking about a great empowering moment for pakistan.
It is a white washing attempt, the time for it is over. islamic jihadic military state has to be administered euthenasia.
#174 Posted by nature_lover on July 25, 2007 3:25:28 pm
In order to read "Jotay Khawaab" by Nazir Naji please copy and paste following link in the address bar of your computer:
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/col1.htm
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/col1.htm
#173 Posted by nature_lover on July 25, 2007 2:07:14 pm
Article of Nazir Naji "jotay khawaab"
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/editorial/ col1.gif
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/editorial/ col1.gif
#172 Posted by nasah on July 24, 2007 10:13:06 pm
Was this an empowering verdict or a disempowering verdict?
The danger from the CJ side is that in order to present himself as extra-unbiased and evenhanded and strict constitutionalist -- the CJ will exclude himself from any case involving Musharraf -- a glimpse of that one saw when the CJ refused to see that poor Pirzada fellow anywhere in or near his court -- pleading for anybody.
Musharraf may be counting on that the CJ will exclude himself from anything and everything La Musharraf. That may explain Musharraf's "graciousness" in accepting the verdict with "dignity and respect".
Musharraf may actually be chortling under the shower that he may have succeeded in disempowering the re-empowered Chief Justice through his wretched reference after all .
The danger from the CJ side is that in order to present himself as extra-unbiased and evenhanded and strict constitutionalist -- the CJ will exclude himself from any case involving Musharraf -- a glimpse of that one saw when the CJ refused to see that poor Pirzada fellow anywhere in or near his court -- pleading for anybody.
Musharraf may be counting on that the CJ will exclude himself from anything and everything La Musharraf. That may explain Musharraf's "graciousness" in accepting the verdict with "dignity and respect".
Musharraf may actually be chortling under the shower that he may have succeeded in disempowering the re-empowered Chief Justice through his wretched reference after all .
#171 Posted by nasah on July 24, 2007 7:21:23 pm
"And who is to say that the same judges will not collide with the army behind the scenes to keep the civilian governments in control."(HP)
I hope the same judges will collide with the army behind the scene as they did in front of the scene -- not collude with them either behind or in front.....:)
I hope the same judges will collide with the army behind the scene as they did in front of the scene -- not collude with them either behind or in front.....:)
#170 Posted by echoboom on July 24, 2007 3:18:54 pm
#168 Posted by echoboom on July 24, 2007 11:50:17 am
An open letter yo Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhri

#167 Posted by Humsab on July 24, 2007 7:56:27 am
hamidm ji
Hum kaale haiN tou kya hua dilwaale haiN.
Hum (Horrible Hindus) tere chaahne waale haiN
Regards
Hum kaale haiN tou kya hua dilwaale haiN.
Hum (Horrible Hindus) tere chaahne waale haiN
Regards
#166 Posted by tahmed32 on July 23, 2007 7:36:20 pm
zeemax #165: Naivete my friend is not a sin if you are an infant. However, for anyone older than 5 years of age, naivete is indeed a sin. Since it means you are not using the one thing you have that every ape, every urang utang, every chimpanzee, does not have: namely a brain. What distinguishes man from animal.
I am glad to note though that calling for the rule of law is not naivete. It is a very smart thing to call for. It is those who dont use their brains and think they are being clever by getting into positions of power by hook or by crook who are naive. In this sense, every dictator, every maulvi, every politician trying to wheel and deal his way into power is naive. The CJ calls for the rule of law, and he is the only smart one among the lot. Because he has done more for Pakistan than any individual I can think of. And thus, regardless of the outcome, he will have the greatest satisfaction of all: knowing he did the right thing when he stood up to the militar generals. May God protect this Greatest Pakistani.
I am glad to note though that calling for the rule of law is not naivete. It is a very smart thing to call for. It is those who dont use their brains and think they are being clever by getting into positions of power by hook or by crook who are naive. In this sense, every dictator, every maulvi, every politician trying to wheel and deal his way into power is naive. The CJ calls for the rule of law, and he is the only smart one among the lot. Because he has done more for Pakistan than any individual I can think of. And thus, regardless of the outcome, he will have the greatest satisfaction of all: knowing he did the right thing when he stood up to the militar generals. May God protect this Greatest Pakistani.
#165 Posted by zeemax on July 23, 2007 12:34:42 pm
#163 Posted by tahmed32,
I appreciate your rejoicing for victory of rule of law, but unfortunately it may be a deal. We'll only know once the full text of the judgment is released.
It would be a perfect solution if CJ is restored but not allowed to sit on the bench in cases against Musharraf - and the 'full' bench, basking in its glory of the moment -decides it is OK for Musharraf to wear two hats at the same time as well as to get elected by an outgoing Parliament.
But,naivety is no sin.
I appreciate your rejoicing for victory of rule of law, but unfortunately it may be a deal. We'll only know once the full text of the judgment is released.
It would be a perfect solution if CJ is restored but not allowed to sit on the bench in cases against Musharraf - and the 'full' bench, basking in its glory of the moment -decides it is OK for Musharraf to wear two hats at the same time as well as to get elected by an outgoing Parliament.
But,naivety is no sin.
#164 Posted by echoboom on July 23, 2007 12:24:44 pm
#162
A july20 post gets posted today...jazakallah! Maybe someone among CHWOKSTAFF has a heart.
A july20 post gets posted today...jazakallah! Maybe someone among CHWOKSTAFF has a heart.
#163 Posted by tahmed32 on July 23, 2007 12:22:47 pm
zeemax Re: # 161 The CJ wasnt sitting on the bench when the Supreme Court delivered the stinging rebuke to Musharraf (not just rejected all charges, but termed the action by Musharraf to be illegal!).
So, the CJ does not need to sit on the bench for future court cases against Mush to be decided in a lawful and just manner.
So, the CJ does not need to sit on the bench for future court cases against Mush to be decided in a lawful and just manner.
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