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Pak top brass talks with US to avert attacks

Shaiq Hussain
ISLAMABAD - In the backdrop of fierce clashes between the army, paramilitary forces and militants in North Waziristan, Pakistan’s top security brass is engaged in intense negotiations with senior officials in Washington to avert possible US attacks on the restive tribal belt.
Strong indications from the US capital suggest growing restlessness among the security cadres over the surge in violence in Pakistan’s tribal belt and the alleged regrouping of Al-Qaeda and Taliban there.
The diplomatic circles here believe that the Bush administration was under increased pressure to mount assaults against the Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants in Waziristan from Afghanistan.
They said that in such a worrisome scenario, Pakistan was all out in its contacts with the top officials in Bush administration to avert possible military action from the US led allied forces on its soil fearing it would lead to catastrophic repercussions.
Sensing the urgency and seriousness of situation, Pakistani security forces on Sunday targeted the militants and killed six Taliban fighters in North Waziristan where the overnight battles left 13 miscreants dead.
After the scrapping of North Waziristan peace deal few days back by the militants that Pakistan had reached at with the tribesmen last year, the military and paramilitary forces have been trying their best to control the spiraling violence.
A diplomatic source said that Islamabad had been trying to impress upon the Bush administration that any attack on Waziristan or any other tribal area from outside would only add to the militancy in Pakistan.
“Pakistani officials have been urging restrain during their interaction with the US.
Authorities while telling them that Islamabad’s policy of talks for the revival of North Waziristan peace deal along with the use of force when and where it is required must be given a chance as it would bear fruits,” he said.

#112 Posted by cliftonbridge on July 22, 2007 10:08:30 am

Bridge, you know that Pakistanis have no well-wishers like me! But I do you or other Pakistanis no favors by sugarcoating. So I won’t.

You are reading me all wrong! Our GWB has no interest in the CJ issue – and he has only limited interest in the Mushy. However, he has every interest in making sure that the war on terror goes on and everyone does everything to ensure that any disruptions – CJ-related or otherwise, do not get in the way.

Mushy does not mind mass uprisings any more than any of the prior khaki regimes did. In fact, Pakistani mass uprisings have traditionally benefited the khakis because then the khakis can shout: “Omigawsh, Pakistan is breaking up, don’t you hear it bursting at its seams?! Quick, we need a savior around here! Hey, guess what – there is no savior like a khaki savior!”

Khakis LOVE a bit of song and dance in the streets! The mullahs are always happy to provide the same. This is a “Ram milaai joaDee” a match made through celestial magic! The two partners shall forever bicker – which two partners do not? – but when push comes to shove, they will extricate each other! And “ye bandhan kabhie bhi tooteyga naa…”!

Yes, Lal masjid was a disruption! Guess who allowed to build it up?!

But cracking on the black coats right after lal masjid would have been another disruption.

One disruption is barely acceptable – two disruptions in a row is a problem! GWB would not like it. So the Mushy decides to let this one slip by. But if anybody here thinks that he has changed his thinking on issues or has tempered his ambitions – you have been chomping Hamidm’s adrakh and slurping HP’s booze a bit too long!

Please note – there is no victory for those who are celebrating “victory” at this time! The khakis have made their point – they can pull a fast one any time they wish – and there are no penalties as long as they keep a few people satisfied – starting with our very own numero uno!

Where is the insaaf for the people who got killed – some for just doing their duty?! Where is the insaaf for all the pro-democracy protesters? That insaaf will come – but when? I will tell you when – the month after the khakis publish the Hamidur Rahman report and all those other reports that have yet to see daylight!

And Bridge, the sad truth is that Gandhiji would have been very proud of this “agitation” by Pakistani lawyers – and he would have been even more proud of their non-violent methods.

And the sad truth – as every Pakistani knows in his or her heart is – the very creation of Pakistan was a death knell into the idea that he stood for! The techniques used for creating it were sheer evil and everything that has happened there since its creation has been nothing short of the dance of evil!

It was a potent poison – Pakistani awaam has had too many swigs of it!

What killed Gandhiji was not the hail of bullets that pierced his chest – it was the victory of sectarian selfishness that ruled the subcontinent when he was alive!

And which still rules!

This Paki website is not working properly. The post from "Reply To This Interact" is not appearing where it should. Maybe they need to outsource the development work to "code coolies" in India?

This will free up more time for reading the koran.

Romair:

I accept your points on Pakistani armed forces, and their role. My point is that this general has been cornered by the people, whom the U.S. does not want to be removed. Somehow my gut tells me that this is the last general who will come to power by throwing civilian governments - it is my gut feel, as I said.

Considering his accomplishments, he indeed has accomplishments, and that he extracted the best deal, of any general from America for the support. No handing over of AQ Khan, of that Sheikh involved with Danny Pearl killing, rebuilding Pakistani economy, reforming education, women bill etc. It seems that this cornered general may be the best hope for an independent Prime Minister to complete the transition, judiciary has shown Presidential limits, and independence. Newly elected Prime Minister would not be able to do Nawaz Shariff on Judiciary, and restore independence of legislative as well. No puppet PMs. To me this is a sensible roadmap, which is realizable, this can lead to putting the generals back in the barracks. The force that would make it happen is that currently these guns are pointed not toward Arch Enemy - India, but toward internal Pakistan.

My approach is like not shooting the gun holder at this stage, but create forces and situations that will force the gun holder to go back to where he really belongs, the barracks. Civil unrest that can be unleashed if guns remain pointed toward however jehadist civilians for too long. This unrest can be unmaking of Pakistan, as it might drift into fundamentalism rather than make transition toward enlightened reforms.

Judiciary has been freed under this general, next goal should be to free legislative and restore "fair" election process, and finally the executive branch will see the limits in its office. Changing players at this stage to me, looks suicidal.

I am, therefore, for Musharraff.

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Oh, I forgot. tahmed's book will also be chock-full of "universal" messages - that we had NO CLUE about before his book was written. Wise words like "think for yourself", "figure it out yourself", "use your brains, for crissakes", "use rationality and your own good judgement", "behead kafirs for a limited time only", "pour molten lead into their mouths ONLY when necessary" etc.

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Re: # 128 I see what you are doing: Copying positive things I wrote, and then adding additional phrases cooked up by your own sick mind("behead kafirs for a limited time only", "pour molten lead into their mouths ONLY when necessary") that I never wrote to make it look like I wrote them too.

Stuka had earlier described you earlier on chowk since he considers you an embarrasment to normal Indians like himself - and I can see he was on the mark.

Re: # 130

[Stuka had earlier described you earlier on chowk since he considers you an embarrasment to normal Indians like himself - and I can see he was on the mark.

See the fallacy? :)

Re: # 130

Oh, so no beheading kafirs? I thought that WAS in the koran, and I distinctly remember you saying that you believe that the koran is the word of allah.

Re: # 132 Dont try to wiggle out with clever arguments now that you have been caught lying. Try to be honest instead if you want to be taken seriously.

Re: # 132 Dont try to wiggle out with clever arguments now that you have been caught lying. Try to be honest instead if you want to be taken seriously.

Re: # 137

looks like YOU are the one that's trying to wriggle out. Did you or did you not say that you believe that the koran is the word of "allah".

Re: # 139 Last post to you since I have better things to do with my time than waste with someone trying to be cleverer than his is:

This is what you write Wise words like "think for yourself", "figure it out yourself", "use your brains, for crissakes", "use rationality and your own good judgement", "behead kafirs for a limited time only", "pour molten lead into their mouths ONLY when necessary" etc.

By putting quotes around sentences, you imply you are quoting me. By starting with some positive things I often write on chowk, and then adding phrases I never wrote, you clearly intended to lie.

So you can throw everything I say back in my face by saying it is I who is lying or that it is I who is trying to wiggle out with arguments - anyone with half a brain can figure out which one of us is the liar, which one of us is now trying to cover-up his lies by starting an argument.

Last post.

Re: # 140

I put quotation marks around those statements because those are the things that would be there in your new Koran.

The pre-existing things that YOU HAVE SAID are the words of "allah" plus some of the "universal" messages that "prove" (because how could us humans have thought of these REVOLUTIONARY ideas ourselves?) that koran is clearly transmitted from the bearded dude himself - like "use your own brains, earthlings!" and so on...

Re: # 140

I put quotation marks around those statements because those are the things that would be there in your new Koran.

The pre-existing things that YOU HAVE SAID are the words of "allah" plus some of the "universal" messages that "prove" (because how could us humans have thought of these REVOLUTIONARY ideas ourselves?) that koran is clearly transmitted from the bearded dude himself - like "use your own brains, earthlings!" and so on...