Dilawar Syed July 20, 2007
#159 Posted by mohar11 on July 23, 2007 11:41:22 am
Chennai
Hamid Mian is alright - one of few pakis who are NOT completely lost to bedounism... he just needs some "directions" every once in a while... being a pretty pathan boy - his brain waves only go so far... :)
Hamid Mian is alright - one of few pakis who are NOT completely lost to bedounism... he just needs some "directions" every once in a while... being a pretty pathan boy - his brain waves only go so far... :)
#160 Posted by Pardesi on July 23, 2007 11:44:40 am
Guys, leave Hamidm alone :).
His BS can be forgiven for two reasons:
a) he is trying to build bridges with Jihadis just in case he needs to retire in Pakistan and
b) he can not overcome all of his biases against indians despite all his noble efforts. Chowk is the only outlet since corporate PC rules will hang you if you say anything against others' "butt ugly" faces :)
His BS can be forgiven for two reasons:
a) he is trying to build bridges with Jihadis just in case he needs to retire in Pakistan and
b) he can not overcome all of his biases against indians despite all his noble efforts. Chowk is the only outlet since corporate PC rules will hang you if you say anything against others' "butt ugly" faces :)
#161 Posted by zeemax on July 23, 2007 2:43:03 am
While restoration of CJ is good news for a change, the real implications of this will only be known once the full text of the judgment is released. For instance, he may have been barred from sitting on the bench in any cases against Musharraf, being now a biased party. In that case, his restoration will mean nothing more than more suo-moto actions on administrative matters.
Besides, events now threatening Pakistan are those over which no CJ can exercise control:
Militants vow 'gift of death' for Pakistani troops MIRANSHAH, Pakistan, July 23 (AFP) Militants Monday warned Pakistani soldiers to quit fighting or face more suicide attacks, as peace talks faltered in the area bordering Afghanistan. Militants threatened that explosives would bring soldiers the “gift of death” in a pamphlet entitled “Till Islam Lives in Islamabad”, distributed in the town of Miranshah in the North Waziristan tribal district. The pamphlet, issued by a group calling itself the Mujahedin-e-Islam, accused Pakistani troops of doing the bidding of the United States and leading impure lives. Posted @ 14:00 PST)
Besides, events now threatening Pakistan are those over which no CJ can exercise control:
Militants vow 'gift of death' for Pakistani troops MIRANSHAH, Pakistan, July 23 (AFP) Militants Monday warned Pakistani soldiers to quit fighting or face more suicide attacks, as peace talks faltered in the area bordering Afghanistan. Militants threatened that explosives would bring soldiers the “gift of death” in a pamphlet entitled “Till Islam Lives in Islamabad”, distributed in the town of Miranshah in the North Waziristan tribal district. The pamphlet, issued by a group calling itself the Mujahedin-e-Islam, accused Pakistani troops of doing the bidding of the United States and leading impure lives. Posted @ 14:00 PST)
#162 Posted by echoboom on July 20, 2007 6:47:00 pm
http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20070721/Sub_Images/1100228101-1.jpg
#163 Posted by tahmed32 on July 23, 2007 12:22:47 pm
zeemax Re: # 161 The CJ wasnt sitting on the bench when the Supreme Court delivered the stinging rebuke to Musharraf (not just rejected all charges, but termed the action by Musharraf to be illegal!).
So, the CJ does not need to sit on the bench for future court cases against Mush to be decided in a lawful and just manner.
So, the CJ does not need to sit on the bench for future court cases against Mush to be decided in a lawful and just manner.
#164 Posted by echoboom on July 23, 2007 12:24:44 pm
#162
A july20 post gets posted today...jazakallah! Maybe someone among CHWOKSTAFF has a heart.
A july20 post gets posted today...jazakallah! Maybe someone among CHWOKSTAFF has a heart.
#165 Posted by zeemax on July 23, 2007 12:34:42 pm
#163 Posted by tahmed32,
I appreciate your rejoicing for victory of rule of law, but unfortunately it may be a deal. We'll only know once the full text of the judgment is released.
It would be a perfect solution if CJ is restored but not allowed to sit on the bench in cases against Musharraf - and the 'full' bench, basking in its glory of the moment -decides it is OK for Musharraf to wear two hats at the same time as well as to get elected by an outgoing Parliament.
But,naivety is no sin.
I appreciate your rejoicing for victory of rule of law, but unfortunately it may be a deal. We'll only know once the full text of the judgment is released.
It would be a perfect solution if CJ is restored but not allowed to sit on the bench in cases against Musharraf - and the 'full' bench, basking in its glory of the moment -decides it is OK for Musharraf to wear two hats at the same time as well as to get elected by an outgoing Parliament.
But,naivety is no sin.
#166 Posted by tahmed32 on July 23, 2007 7:36:20 pm
zeemax #165: Naivete my friend is not a sin if you are an infant. However, for anyone older than 5 years of age, naivete is indeed a sin. Since it means you are not using the one thing you have that every ape, every urang utang, every chimpanzee, does not have: namely a brain. What distinguishes man from animal.
I am glad to note though that calling for the rule of law is not naivete. It is a very smart thing to call for. It is those who dont use their brains and think they are being clever by getting into positions of power by hook or by crook who are naive. In this sense, every dictator, every maulvi, every politician trying to wheel and deal his way into power is naive. The CJ calls for the rule of law, and he is the only smart one among the lot. Because he has done more for Pakistan than any individual I can think of. And thus, regardless of the outcome, he will have the greatest satisfaction of all: knowing he did the right thing when he stood up to the militar generals. May God protect this Greatest Pakistani.
I am glad to note though that calling for the rule of law is not naivete. It is a very smart thing to call for. It is those who dont use their brains and think they are being clever by getting into positions of power by hook or by crook who are naive. In this sense, every dictator, every maulvi, every politician trying to wheel and deal his way into power is naive. The CJ calls for the rule of law, and he is the only smart one among the lot. Because he has done more for Pakistan than any individual I can think of. And thus, regardless of the outcome, he will have the greatest satisfaction of all: knowing he did the right thing when he stood up to the militar generals. May God protect this Greatest Pakistani.
#167 Posted by Humsab on July 24, 2007 7:56:27 am
hamidm ji
Hum kaale haiN tou kya hua dilwaale haiN.
Hum (Horrible Hindus) tere chaahne waale haiN
Regards
Hum kaale haiN tou kya hua dilwaale haiN.
Hum (Horrible Hindus) tere chaahne waale haiN
Regards
#168 Posted by echoboom on July 24, 2007 11:50:17 am
An open letter yo Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhri

#170 Posted by echoboom on July 24, 2007 3:18:54 pm
#171 Posted by nasah on July 24, 2007 7:21:23 pm
"And who is to say that the same judges will not collide with the army behind the scenes to keep the civilian governments in control."(HP)
I hope the same judges will collide with the army behind the scene as they did in front of the scene -- not collude with them either behind or in front.....:)
I hope the same judges will collide with the army behind the scene as they did in front of the scene -- not collude with them either behind or in front.....:)
#172 Posted by nasah on July 24, 2007 10:13:06 pm
Was this an empowering verdict or a disempowering verdict?
The danger from the CJ side is that in order to present himself as extra-unbiased and evenhanded and strict constitutionalist -- the CJ will exclude himself from any case involving Musharraf -- a glimpse of that one saw when the CJ refused to see that poor Pirzada fellow anywhere in or near his court -- pleading for anybody.
Musharraf may be counting on that the CJ will exclude himself from anything and everything La Musharraf. That may explain Musharraf's "graciousness" in accepting the verdict with "dignity and respect".
Musharraf may actually be chortling under the shower that he may have succeeded in disempowering the re-empowered Chief Justice through his wretched reference after all .
The danger from the CJ side is that in order to present himself as extra-unbiased and evenhanded and strict constitutionalist -- the CJ will exclude himself from any case involving Musharraf -- a glimpse of that one saw when the CJ refused to see that poor Pirzada fellow anywhere in or near his court -- pleading for anybody.
Musharraf may be counting on that the CJ will exclude himself from anything and everything La Musharraf. That may explain Musharraf's "graciousness" in accepting the verdict with "dignity and respect".
Musharraf may actually be chortling under the shower that he may have succeeded in disempowering the re-empowered Chief Justice through his wretched reference after all .
#173 Posted by nature_lover on July 25, 2007 2:07:14 pm
Article of Nazir Naji "jotay khawaab"
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/editorial/ col1.gif
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/editorial/ col1.gif
#174 Posted by nature_lover on July 25, 2007 3:25:28 pm
In order to read "Jotay Khawaab" by Nazir Naji please copy and paste following link in the address bar of your computer:
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/col1.htm
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jul2007-daily/22-07-2007/col1.htm
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