An Empowering Verdict!

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Poor pakistanis,

The pakistanis are celebrating a Pyrrhic victory, where there is nothing to celebrate. When the CJ went to Karachi, 50 people were killed by the local thugs and no one was charged with any crime. It was written off as another sectarian violence, another application of the hoodood law, where no one filed an FIR, no crime was committed.

Now the CJ is a dead man walking, one of the army jihadst is going to kill the CJ. Then there will be something real for the pakistansi to celebrate.

.....this has to be considered a defining moment in the history of the country.....absolutely no doubt about it.....anyone who does not realize this, has very little undersanding of pakistan....

....ever since, i have been on chowk, i have mentioned the following:

1. ....the army is powerful, not because it has guns, but, because its leadership always remains united behind its coas, regardless of circumstances

2. ....the civilian institutions are weak in front of the army, because the army can, always, successfully split them up....anytime any civilian institution sticks together - specifically political leaders or judiciary - they will dominate the army.....

3. ....there are only two groups in pakistan, who have, traditionally, shown the ability to take a stand against the govt. - lawyers (not judges, but lawyers) and press...

4. ......the reason pakistan does not have democracy is because the judiciary has been too scared to take on the army......however, if it does take on the army, i guaranteed it would win and the army would back off.....

i think, to a great extent this is what has happened.....the lawyers and press have taken on the army, the army has backed off.......the judiciary has finally remained united, despite the army's best efforts to divide them.......and finally, it has stood by its chief justice....and the army is running for cover, despite its guns......

it was that simple......having seen the military from the inside, i knew this is what would happen......

.....we are, now, in uncharted waters, as far as pakistan is concerned...the judiciary has never been able to dominate the army, before........lets see what happens.....

p.s.....while the judiciary has stuck together, the army has succeeded in breaking the opportunistic politicians........one whif of a chance in power, and dropping of corruption cases agaisnt benazir and zardari, and ppp is ready to make a deal with the army..

ppp supporters should die of embarrasment.........

Re: # 3 Are you unhappy for your neighbourhood getting more lawful ?
Indians want in pakistan military rule or Mullacracy for then their system appears better?
Only bad thing is army chief is diminished when he is about to assault Al Queda fanatics. But strong support of usa and coming billions of dollars in tribal areas from usa can change fanaticsm to more civilised rule. Which is good for A.Stan and India. Indians wish bad luck to pakistan is real think

Bulleya,

In pakistan there is no concept of the rule of law and that is why the military takes over. Your notion that it has got nothing to do with the guns is nonsense, they are the implementors of law and order in pakistan.

The judiciary is nothing, it has no guns to implement. Howmany habious corpus orders of the judiciary has gone with out any action. How many murders have net been investigated because no charges are file.

Pakistan being an islamic republic only the mullas count. See the hue and cry about lal majid. When 50 people were killed in Karachi when the CJ was visiting, no one cared about filing a single murder charge.

CJ case is nothing in pak history. After every military coup the military has changed so many of the laws of pakistyan and they all have been ratified by the judges, the law of inevitability.

Your talk of judiciary having power has to precede some concept of people created legal system in pakistan.

When the sheria court is the supreme law ratifier in pakistan, that has up held the hoodood and blasphemy laws, there can be no significance to this case of a single CJ.

Go out to the streets, the jihadis are roaming them, and they recognize no law of the CJ

nice to see good news about pakistan for a change. a very hopeful sign indeed.

July 20 will no doubt go down in history. A great day for all sane people in the world, Pakistanis or not.

Re: # 7
Mr.H you have point. But you and Jaybahadur too logical. Do not think but enjoy cj restoration. People who think too much are never happy. Ignorance is bliss. Too much thinking and too much college makes you miserable aqnd more stupid.
Enjoy moment, they pass fast.

....... i hate to be a wet blanket, but the madrasi, jay bahadur, does make a valid point ........ with the federal sharia court, the council for islamic ideology and the special terrorism courts in place it is not really clear - at least to me - how much weight the cj actually carries inspite of his fine moustache ...... what if tomorrow he is accused of the unislamic practice of washing his butt with his right hand or posessing his woman with his left hand?.......... will the federal sharia court be able to sentence him to a public stoning ?

....... it might be phyrric victory, but let's enjoy it anyway .......

Re: # 9

You have got a wrong mindset. Its negative to be fair to your post. There is no ethnic bias in this case which you are reffering to.

Re: # 8
There was politics played in judgement.
When General put new chief justice in charge Javed Iqbal things were going pretty his way. Note general is native of Sindh. Rana Bhagvandas was in India when he kicked CJ. When he return from India ( He is also native Sindhi) he had some discussion in India with local judges and they made plan. When he returned he took charge and slowly turned all against another sindi and stabbed him in back as earlier he was not made chief justice by president.
This classic case of Sindhi stabbing sindhi, this reason Sindhis are backward community in Pakistan.
Personal politics.

Well, this is a landmark judgment by Supreme Court of Pakistan against a military led government. The honorable judges deserve salute from a nation which is practically deprived of basic civil rights. A best decision under the circumstances.

But Pakistanis should not waste the zing of this legal and constitutional movement. They have to be more organized and a great responsibility lies on the shoulders of judiciary now. They have made an example for other civil institutions and they must carry on.

Hamidm: That is good advice from Mr.Madani, i.e. Too much thinking and too much college makes you miserable aqnd more stupid.

I realize you and musharraf are the enlightened ones while the rest of us unwashed Pakis are... well... washed, but with lotas. And of course we are so stupid as to have respect for our religion. But nevertheless - this is a great day for Pakistan. The greatest day for Pakistan as far as I can remember. And the Supreme Court of Pakistan fired the shot heard around the world!!

Re: # 14 joieya: The months ahead should indeed prove significant. Musharraf is in a sense cornered - if he steps down from power, he faces a barrage of lawsuits; and if he "stays the course", he faces forcible removal by his own generals (like Ayub Khan). The best he can hope for it seems is to seek immunity from future prosecution in return from doing what he had promised he would do 9 years or so ago - play the honest broker in the next elections.

Re: # 13

Yes and let’s cross our hands for the upcoming events, uniform and election of Mr. Musharraf by the sitting rubber stamps. Judiciary has to be very shrewd and organized to outplay the tyranny.