Moral Policing is the Same Everywhere

beady,

I am not making this into a pissing contest, one has to have some concept of proportions.

Here is a news item from timesof india of tody. A man arrested for poisoning peacokcs that eat the grains.

Thousands of women are honour killed in pakistan and no one get arrested because under the hoodood law, no crime has been committed. In india poisoning peacocks is an offense, but in pakistan honour killing women is not an offence. Read about the case of Samia Sarwar, killed in front of well known human rights activist in Lahore, no one arrested.

The point is that arresting a person for killing peacock would not have happened ten years ago, now it happens. Hoodood law that legitimizes honour killing was enacted 25 years after the creation of pakistan, because of the jinnah-islam, the religion of pakistan. What one has to look at is the direction of the dominant value of the society is moving. Honour killing is not due to corruption or incompetence, it is the law of the land.

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The Forest Officials arrested one person in connection with the killing of more than 100 peacocks en masse near Bale Hosur in Gadag district last Sunday.
Officials were on the look out for two more persons in this connection.
According to official sources, a case had been registered against Basavanneppa Mulimani, who had treated maize seeds with pesticide in his field leading to the death of peacocks as well as some sparrows and doves in the area.

As the article points out if the muslim complains he is labelled a whiner, if he doesnot and takes matters into his own hands he is a Jihadi.

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Sure..Jihadis are better than Shiv Sainiks..why don't you go and become one?

Indian police, admin, politicians, congress, hindu sanghis and shiv sainiks beat jihadis hands down any day of the week, for reference check out "Riot after Riot" by MJ Akbar. in Gujarat, according to the US, they outdid even Milosovic and the serbs.

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On January 10, 1993, Hajirabi Qureishi saw her husband and eldest son dragged from her house by Shiv Sainiks who used to hang around the local Sena shakha. When she tried to stop the sainiks, they pushed her off the parapet and she lost consciousness. She never saw her husband and son again.

Much before his inquiry into the 1992-93 Mumbai riots was complete, Justice Srikrishna wrote a letter to the government recommending immediate payment of compensation for missing persons in cases that he had personally investigated. The Qureishis headed that list. Hajirabi should have received Rs 4,00,000; instead she received Rs 2,00,000 eight years later for her husband. Compensation for her son Saleem Qureishi continues to form the subject matter of petitions being heard for the ump-teenth time in the Supreme Court.

Unable to cope with memories of their disappearance, Hajirabi left the Hindu-Muslim chawl that had been home for years to live in a Muslim ghetto. Every known and unknown Muslim organisation had its offices there, including SIMI. Yet they could not recruit Hajira's son Rizwan, his father's favourite.

Farooq Mapkar should have been an ideal candidate for SIMI. Shot in his shoulder on January 10, 1993, while praying inside a mosque, this bank employee saw a namazi being shot dead at point-blank range despite coming out of the mosque with his hands up. Along with the other namazis, Farooq was charged under Section 307.

Fourteen years later, Farooq continues to take leave from his job to attend court hearings in a case declared false by the Srikrishna commission. Contrast this with the case of sub-inspector Nikhil Kapse. The commission found him guilty for unprovoked firing that killed six innocent Muslims. But he was exonerated by a bunch of policemen entrusted with implementing the commission's findings.

The policemen didn't think it necessary to talk to those who testified in front of the commission about the incident involving Kapse. In these 14 years, Kapse hasn't faced a day's suspension. More than Farooq and Rizwan, Abdullah would have made the ideal jehadi. As a 12-year-old, he saw his handicapped father being dragged down the stairs of the madrassa where he taught and shot, pleading for water as he lay dying. Abdullah continued to live in the same madrassa. Eight years later, he joined the legal battle to put behind bars the policemen charged with murder for this incident. When he lost, the entire madrassa felt betrayed.

Even while lashing out at the government's indulgence towards policemen charged with murder, Abdullah was packing his bags for further studies in Deoband. He had graduated from his madrassa with flying colours, with full marks in logic. "Why don't you study law", i asked, "you could fight for your father". "My world is the hereafter", he replied. "He can't get involved in all this", added his teachers.

Mumbai's riot orphans have grown up deprived of their childhood, seen their mothers struggle alone - and often fail - to give them the education their fathers desired for them. They've seen those who led the violent mobs become ministers. A sitting judge pronounced these policemen guilty; his report became an election issue and made ministers out of nobodies, but has yet to be acted upon.

They've seen, over the last year, those who took revenge on their behalf by killing innocent Hindus, being made to pay, some even with life sentences.

Last week, as two Muslim accused in the July 11 train blasts in Mumbai confessed on TV (by a mysterious coincidence, all channels got hold of the footage exactly a year after the blasts), the news anchors screamed: "This man not only betrayed his nation, but also humanity. Doesn't your blood boil when you see this traitor"?

Narendra Modi could be accused of having done the same. No channel asks these questions about him. These double standards are now part of being a Muslim in India's "vibrant" democracy. We should be thankful hundreds of Kafeel Ahmeds haven't produced a swadeshi version of jehad.

The writer is a political commentator.

Lets not have a kneejerk reaction. The author might have compared India with Pakistan, but surely our comparison has to be against the principles? No point in getting upset about the relative aspects, Jay and Harish.

From an absolutist perspective, yes, there are moral policing issues in India. While I consider people who reach for the fascist or nazi tag as godwin's law breakers, it behoves us to really think about why we have these buggers almost on an yearly basis, going after say the valentine day shops. Its comical if not bizarre.

Morality is now reduced to sex, what about the morals relating to good behaviour to others? animals? corruption? non-violence? Much to think about as far as India is concerned. And lets not turn this into a pissing comparison match with Pakistan

Mohammed,

Lal majid clown kidnap police, army negotiates with the mullahs, the arrested jihadis are released in return for the police.

The jihadis burn down shops selling videos.

Jihadis kidnap chinese running brothels, and the pak army likes the brothels, the jihadis are killed.
The Indian story.


Now compare that to one Panikker loses his job.

A college specifies dress code. By teh way dress codes are compulsory in most schools in india and in factories.

I read that you have studied in a madrassa, and that sums up your logic.

Some where in pakistan, a madrassa is suffering a loss.

Sure...if Pakistan has its quota of Jihadis who kill and mail hundreds of people every other day, India has its Hindu fundamentalists who ransack gift shops on Valentine's Day. Jihadis-Shiv Sainiks equal-equal. Nice logic.