Manzoor Ali July 26, 2007
#1 Posted by nasah on July 26, 2007 10:25:20 pm
a degrading despicable suicide attack is the human's worst form of irrational cowardice -- because it destroys life randomly -- whereas rational cowardice preserves life non randomly.
#2 Posted by nasah on July 26, 2007 10:39:47 pm
Is there is an end in sight? Yes there is -- as soon we start chopping off the Mad from the Madrassas leaving the rassas to put some spice in Muslim lives.
#3 Posted by jayp on July 27, 2007 1:19:14 am
The mullah of lal masjid said that he has a thousand suicide bombers ready and he said that they will strike ant where. he delivered on his promise.
First can any one find a link between the teachings of the mullah and suicide attacks.
The mullah has spent a life time learning islam and can any one find a link between islam and his teachings.
Is there an end in sight for suicide bombings???
The answer my friend is hiding in the lines above.
First can any one find a link between the teachings of the mullah and suicide attacks.
The mullah has spent a life time learning islam and can any one find a link between islam and his teachings.
Is there an end in sight for suicide bombings???
The answer my friend is hiding in the lines above.
#8 Posted by Kamath on July 27, 2007 7:10:58 am
Re: # 4:
Dear Maulana Zeemax:
You say,"You missed citing one occasion when suicide bombings were used officially by the Pakistan army. It was in the Chawinda tank battle (near Sialkot)in 1965 when Pakistani soldiers strapped on bombs and laid under the tracks of advancing Indian tanks to stop the onslaught. The strategy worked...."
It shows Pak Army has its share of idiot officers who ordered soldiers to commit suicide.
BTW please tell us, if Pakistan won the war and if Officers are taking a stroll in New Delhi after their glorious victory!
Kamath
Dear Maulana Zeemax:
You say,"You missed citing one occasion when suicide bombings were used officially by the Pakistan army. It was in the Chawinda tank battle (near Sialkot)in 1965 when Pakistani soldiers strapped on bombs and laid under the tracks of advancing Indian tanks to stop the onslaught. The strategy worked...."
It shows Pak Army has its share of idiot officers who ordered soldiers to commit suicide.
BTW please tell us, if Pakistan won the war and if Officers are taking a stroll in New Delhi after their glorious victory!
Kamath
#4 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 2:03:16 am
Author,
You missed citing one occasion when suicide bombings were used officially by the Pakistan army. It was in the Chawinda tank battle (near Sialkot)in 1965 when Pakistani soldiers strapped on bombs and laid under the tracks of advancing Indian tanks to stop the onslaught. The strategy worked.
It is quite surprising that while moralizing on suicide bombings, and the 'Ulema' and the 'pseudo ulema' terming it 'Unislamic', no one mentions the above incident.
Suicide bombing is just a weapon, like any other. What must be criticized and moralized-upon is targeting of non-combatants.
Besides, news has broken that white phosphorous was used in Jamia Hafsa. It will be interesting to note that many people will condone the use of chemical weapons by the establishment but at the same time make a great hue and cry over the use of suicide bombings in the blowback.
I have no doubt that if and when the bombers get hold of chemical weapons, they will prefer to use those instead of blowing themselves up.
You missed citing one occasion when suicide bombings were used officially by the Pakistan army. It was in the Chawinda tank battle (near Sialkot)in 1965 when Pakistani soldiers strapped on bombs and laid under the tracks of advancing Indian tanks to stop the onslaught. The strategy worked.
It is quite surprising that while moralizing on suicide bombings, and the 'Ulema' and the 'pseudo ulema' terming it 'Unislamic', no one mentions the above incident.
Suicide bombing is just a weapon, like any other. What must be criticized and moralized-upon is targeting of non-combatants.
Besides, news has broken that white phosphorous was used in Jamia Hafsa. It will be interesting to note that many people will condone the use of chemical weapons by the establishment but at the same time make a great hue and cry over the use of suicide bombings in the blowback.
I have no doubt that if and when the bombers get hold of chemical weapons, they will prefer to use those instead of blowing themselves up.
#7 Posted by Kamath on July 27, 2007 7:06:21 am
Re: # 5
Hi: Mia CheGuevara-
I think you are a very good candidate for suicide bombing. as you say,"....suicide bombing is a perfectly legitimate tactic when the enemy is much better equipped...."
let us know if you prefer to be chicken if not.
Wa Salaam.
Kamath
Hi: Mia CheGuevara-
I think you are a very good candidate for suicide bombing. as you say,"....suicide bombing is a perfectly legitimate tactic when the enemy is much better equipped...."
let us know if you prefer to be chicken if not.
Wa Salaam.
Kamath
#5 Posted by CheGuevara on July 27, 2007 2:42:05 am
As much as I despise the islamofascists, suicide bombing is a perfectly legitimate tactic when the enemy is much better equipped. As long as the insurgency in the NWFP continues to target the army I have no problems (while still wanting to see these people dead).
#6 Posted by CheGuevara on July 27, 2007 2:45:03 am
You know killing two birds with one stone kind of thing.
#9 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 8:01:20 am
No truer words said:

Geo: What will happen if there's an operation and you are martyred?
Ghazi: It will be very bad. Islamabad will become Baghdad.
News report:
Another suicide attack rocks Islamabad, several killed
Updated at 1730 PST
ISLAMABAD: Another suicide attack rocked Islamabad on Friday amid police baton-charge and tear gas shelling on the protesters around the Lal mosque, the initial reports said.

Geo: What will happen if there's an operation and you are martyred?
Ghazi: It will be very bad. Islamabad will become Baghdad.
News report:
Another suicide attack rocks Islamabad, several killed
Updated at 1730 PST
ISLAMABAD: Another suicide attack rocked Islamabad on Friday amid police baton-charge and tear gas shelling on the protesters around the Lal mosque, the initial reports said.
#10 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 8:03:27 am
#8 Posted by Kamath,
Chutya ... all I said was it stopped the tank advance.
Chutya ... all I said was it stopped the tank advance.
#11 Posted by mohar11 on July 27, 2007 11:25:37 am
zee
Yep, now islamabad banega baghdad - the process has started... It seems the taliban has re-captured the mosjid from gov't forces... they are even re-painting the walls back to red, over the official green color...
Way to go pakis...
Yep, now islamabad banega baghdad - the process has started... It seems the taliban has re-captured the mosjid from gov't forces... they are even re-painting the walls back to red, over the official green color...
Way to go pakis...
#12 Posted by zeemax on July 27, 2007 11:47:21 am
#11 Posted by mohar11,
Your turn will come, but not yet. Right now these people are busy with the domestic gloaters.
Your turn will come, but not yet. Right now these people are busy with the domestic gloaters.
#13 Posted by mohar11 on July 27, 2007 4:48:26 pm
zee
Ha ha ha... that's cute - you look very pretty when you make such girlie threats... :)
Ha ha ha... that's cute - you look very pretty when you make such girlie threats... :)
#15 Posted by majumdar on July 29, 2007 9:51:03 pm
Mohar bhai,
Some Muslims are killing themselves and other Muslims in the capital of a Muslim country and Maulana Zeemax (RA) is gloating over the fact. I guess with citizens like him, Pak does not need enemies.
Regards
Some Muslims are killing themselves and other Muslims in the capital of a Muslim country and Maulana Zeemax (RA) is gloating over the fact. I guess with citizens like him, Pak does not need enemies.
Regards
#16 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 4:24:11 am
You said that Lal Masjid was a drama and threat of islamic millitants....
hahahah....
*do you know...the ISI HQ is about 200 or 400 yards from the Lal Mosque....
* the petrol bombs...rocket launchers...gas masks..accumulated to this mosque in invisble mode...i think.....
* the ISI personals were drinkinng daru ..and enjoying soota of powder wali cigaratte when all arms were going in.....
* is it possible that..inside heart of a capital..and adjacent to ISI HQ....the dangerous arms keep on gathering....
* The baighairat general and his bloody baihgat generals ka tola ...instteadof using IB..MI..and ISI for national security..were using them to gather funny and ridiculous....proofs of Chef Justice inside house photographs..bugging the 19 SC judges...phone tapping...and threatening them with pressures.....Lanat on them...is in UK or USA..can you think..the government can do such dirty things....
* bugging of all High Courts ..and judges housese so that they cnnot unfold..the Chor Bazari..of the government..and black mail them...lanat on all the Baighatrs general's Tola again....
*when secret agents are on phone tapping of judges...can they know..wht is happening inside the heart of capital...in a place which is already famous for tensive speeches and vogorousss elements....
*who supported Ghazi brothers for 20 years...were all armed forces were not with them...now they have become the terrorists....
* i am against their implementation ways..but what they are saying...is 100% right..do you not know..what is going on in the name of enlightened Moderation..are you so unaware of that...Aunti Shameem...regulars customers were many Federal Secreatries..and 2 Ministers....and police invited the girls to stop that..as they said ..we are helpless due to government pressure..i am aginst the way the girls raided..but its not the duty of law enforcement agencies to stop these things..tell me...
hahahah....
*do you know...the ISI HQ is about 200 or 400 yards from the Lal Mosque....
* the petrol bombs...rocket launchers...gas masks..accumulated to this mosque in invisble mode...i think.....
* the ISI personals were drinkinng daru ..and enjoying soota of powder wali cigaratte when all arms were going in.....
* is it possible that..inside heart of a capital..and adjacent to ISI HQ....the dangerous arms keep on gathering....
* The baighairat general and his bloody baihgat generals ka tola ...instteadof using IB..MI..and ISI for national security..were using them to gather funny and ridiculous....proofs of Chef Justice inside house photographs..bugging the 19 SC judges...phone tapping...and threatening them with pressures.....Lanat on them...is in UK or USA..can you think..the government can do such dirty things....
* bugging of all High Courts ..and judges housese so that they cnnot unfold..the Chor Bazari..of the government..and black mail them...lanat on all the Baighatrs general's Tola again....
*when secret agents are on phone tapping of judges...can they know..wht is happening inside the heart of capital...in a place which is already famous for tensive speeches and vogorousss elements....
*who supported Ghazi brothers for 20 years...were all armed forces were not with them...now they have become the terrorists....
* i am against their implementation ways..but what they are saying...is 100% right..do you not know..what is going on in the name of enlightened Moderation..are you so unaware of that...Aunti Shameem...regulars customers were many Federal Secreatries..and 2 Ministers....and police invited the girls to stop that..as they said ..we are helpless due to government pressure..i am aginst the way the girls raided..but its not the duty of law enforcement agencies to stop these things..tell me...
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