V S Gopalakrishnan July 27, 2007
#49 Posted by jang on July 30, 2007 1:48:20 pm
#46 bulleya, the indian politics was extremely fluid, with wildly shifting allegiances..even if the brits had "lost" the battle of dilli, there is no evidence to suggest a strong indian nation emerging out that. the only real possiblity was that of a british-indian nation, with some sense of law and order emerging and indeed it did as british-india with every prince getting a nice-new shiny coat-of-arms.
#50 Posted by echoboom on July 30, 2007 2:14:21 pm
Bulleya:
Tragedies of Tragedies is that because of most of the Ba Ba Blacksheep are illiterates in Urdu ( and english as well ..mind you) they are unaware of a tresurehouse of work available..most of it is sitting in the libraries waiting for the nation to wake up..
One book which has never ceased reprinting since 1943 is called " Kampnee kee hukoomat"..this is available at every book store..the authgor is Maulana Bari Alig..the Man behind
Manto, his Mentor..the one who took Manto under his tutelage when Manto was just about to become a vagabond.
The other book which perhaps is available..at least I have a copy...in two volumes: " Angraiz kay Dushman Muslamaan"..by
Jaanbaaz Mirza..
Darrlymplle is excellent in his , white Mughals...but his Last Mughal is simply a copying of the work in Urdu...Even
His Djinns can easily be surpassed by Intezaa'r Hussain's " Dilli jo eik shehr thhaa" ( recent publication) and of course the masterpiece is "Dilli ki ikk shaam" ( Twilight in Dehli ( I wonder why the slaves of India love to write it as Delhi although it is Daihlee! or Dillee..Follywood syndrome I guess.. goray-kaa-goo-chaatnaa)...
" Naqsh-i-aakhir" by Ishtiaque Hussain Qureishi, in the 40's, is a great play incorporating the dialogue & superior culture of the times. He was a Karachi Univ. C & an education minister also.
blaah blaah blaah.
UNTIL & unless all work is done in Urdu & english is learned among other language as a FOREIGN language all the colonised nations will be ghulaaams forever.
China, Germany. Japan, Russia, France...and NO other nations, rich or poorest, never indulge in this Acquired ud SLAVERY Syndrome. [ASS]
Nations become , like individuals, rish or poor. This method of jusging nations on the basis of GNP & GDPs is not only damaging but fallacious. I am sure the pimp next door & the hooker down the block definitely must be having a great "G" Domestic Product 0r "G" national product. " "G" ofcourse stands for what Musharraf & AZiz type kanjarroons want to promote under their raushan-khayalee PulaaO scheme.
Muslim or Kaafir no one I hope consider, as yet, an honour to be kanjarrr..except of course the Ba Ba i Kanjaroon of CHOWK & his poodle
Tragedies of Tragedies is that because of most of the Ba Ba Blacksheep are illiterates in Urdu ( and english as well ..mind you) they are unaware of a tresurehouse of work available..most of it is sitting in the libraries waiting for the nation to wake up..
One book which has never ceased reprinting since 1943 is called " Kampnee kee hukoomat"..this is available at every book store..the authgor is Maulana Bari Alig..the Man behind
Manto, his Mentor..the one who took Manto under his tutelage when Manto was just about to become a vagabond.
The other book which perhaps is available..at least I have a copy...in two volumes: " Angraiz kay Dushman Muslamaan"..by
Jaanbaaz Mirza..
Darrlymplle is excellent in his , white Mughals...but his Last Mughal is simply a copying of the work in Urdu...Even
His Djinns can easily be surpassed by Intezaa'r Hussain's " Dilli jo eik shehr thhaa" ( recent publication) and of course the masterpiece is "Dilli ki ikk shaam" ( Twilight in Dehli ( I wonder why the slaves of India love to write it as Delhi although it is Daihlee! or Dillee..Follywood syndrome I guess.. goray-kaa-goo-chaatnaa)...
" Naqsh-i-aakhir" by Ishtiaque Hussain Qureishi, in the 40's, is a great play incorporating the dialogue & superior culture of the times. He was a Karachi Univ. C & an education minister also.
blaah blaah blaah.
UNTIL & unless all work is done in Urdu & english is learned among other language as a FOREIGN language all the colonised nations will be ghulaaams forever.
China, Germany. Japan, Russia, France...and NO other nations, rich or poorest, never indulge in this Acquired ud SLAVERY Syndrome. [ASS]
Nations become , like individuals, rish or poor. This method of jusging nations on the basis of GNP & GDPs is not only damaging but fallacious. I am sure the pimp next door & the hooker down the block definitely must be having a great "G" Domestic Product 0r "G" national product. " "G" ofcourse stands for what Musharraf & AZiz type kanjarroons want to promote under their raushan-khayalee PulaaO scheme.
Muslim or Kaafir no one I hope consider, as yet, an honour to be kanjarrr..except of course the Ba Ba i Kanjaroon of CHOWK & his poodle
#51 Posted by HP on July 30, 2007 11:48:29 pm
#50 Posted by echoboom
"One book which has never ceased reprinting since 1943 is called " Kampnee kee hukoomat"..this is available at every book store..the authgor is Maulana Bari Alig..the Man behind"
Brother e mun,
Don't just assume that people have not read that book. I have not only read that book but many other on the subject including by some really serious people. I am not sure Bari Alig was a Maulana but the Book was a translation of a book by some RED author.
I have also read Intezaa'r Hussain's " Dilli jo eik shehr thhaa and also "Dilli ki ikk shaam".
You know some of us poor libaroon also know Urdu, Sindhi, Balochi and Persian. So please don't assume that only mullah has monopoly over Urdu language.
"One book which has never ceased reprinting since 1943 is called " Kampnee kee hukoomat"..this is available at every book store..the authgor is Maulana Bari Alig..the Man behind"
Brother e mun,
Don't just assume that people have not read that book. I have not only read that book but many other on the subject including by some really serious people. I am not sure Bari Alig was a Maulana but the Book was a translation of a book by some RED author.
I have also read Intezaa'r Hussain's " Dilli jo eik shehr thhaa and also "Dilli ki ikk shaam".
You know some of us poor libaroon also know Urdu, Sindhi, Balochi and Persian. So please don't assume that only mullah has monopoly over Urdu language.
#52 Posted by echoboom on July 31, 2007 7:07:53 am
HP:
It is NOT a translation ..Of course it quotes the sources of the statistics..many from the revenue agencies. The record keeping was so thorough in the pre-British times that even some of the papers during the mayhem of 1857 are still there.
This, in spite of the fact, that the Britto Baboons set all the Libraries and Office-records of the Mughals in Dilli were set-afire & destroyed. Only the Khudaa Bux Library was in Tonk could be saved by moving it to Patna..where even this library alone is proving of immense value today.
MAULANA Bari was RED..the reddest you can ever imagine ( happy?). He was a MAULANA like Hasrat Mohani ( first President of the Communist Party)..He was a MALULANA like Ubaidullah Sindhi..a convert muslim..a communist to the core..friend of Lenin..part of new Russia..
All of them were FUNDAMENTALIST muslims as well. MJinnah had only TWO friends; Maulana Hasrat Mohani & Bahadur Yaar Jung. He was at ease in their company would drop his stern demeanor.
So please don't roil the waters by uttering inanities like:
"have not only read that book but many other on the subject including by some really serious people. I am not sure Bari Alig was a Maulanabut the Book was a translation of a book by some RED author"
Dilli ki ikk Shaam originally published in english at Oxford as Twilight in Dehli by Ahmad Ali. The very first piece of acclaimed "english" literature when Rushdick was not even a spermatozoa in his father's dick.
and the barb is always directed at the general situation in Pakistan..it has NOTHING whatever to do with the scholarship of those who are NOT BaBaBlacksheep.
It is NOT a translation ..Of course it quotes the sources of the statistics..many from the revenue agencies. The record keeping was so thorough in the pre-British times that even some of the papers during the mayhem of 1857 are still there.
This, in spite of the fact, that the Britto Baboons set all the Libraries and Office-records of the Mughals in Dilli were set-afire & destroyed. Only the Khudaa Bux Library was in Tonk could be saved by moving it to Patna..where even this library alone is proving of immense value today.
MAULANA Bari was RED..the reddest you can ever imagine ( happy?). He was a MAULANA like Hasrat Mohani ( first President of the Communist Party)..He was a MALULANA like Ubaidullah Sindhi..a convert muslim..a communist to the core..friend of Lenin..part of new Russia..
All of them were FUNDAMENTALIST muslims as well. MJinnah had only TWO friends; Maulana Hasrat Mohani & Bahadur Yaar Jung. He was at ease in their company would drop his stern demeanor.
So please don't roil the waters by uttering inanities like:
"have not only read that book but many other on the subject including by some really serious people. I am not sure Bari Alig was a Maulanabut the Book was a translation of a book by some RED author"
Dilli ki ikk Shaam originally published in english at Oxford as Twilight in Dehli by Ahmad Ali. The very first piece of acclaimed "english" literature when Rushdick was not even a spermatozoa in his father's dick.
and the barb is always directed at the general situation in Pakistan..it has NOTHING whatever to do with the scholarship of those who are NOT BaBaBlacksheep.
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