Moral Bankruptcy of Political Leadership in Pakistan

#99 Posted by tahmed32

...and btw, you seem to have decided to vote for some party. Let me ask you: Which party is it, and why are you so confident as to commit to voting for it at this early stage?

I had answered this specific question of yours I think a month ago on UP, and many times in other posts. It is the Sharif brothers. The reasons are their proven track record in achieving a national consensus on complicated and bitterly fought issues between provinces, and successfully setting and implementing an economic agenda which is followed to this date - all in two short and incomplete terms of no more than 2.5 years each while at the same time being sanctioned to the hilt.

Now please don't go on about the supreme court disturbance, the Rai-Wind Estate, the 15th amendment and so forth. Their pluses far outweigh their minuses, and they and their team hold great promise.

Khurram...post 69

GEO and ARY ONE zindabad...

Ch Ietzaz Ahsan said in GEO parliment Cafeteria..with Asma Chaudry that...

BB have discussion not deal..and deal will not be accepted by the people or PPPP workers...

he said that ...he can be a lawyers against the government when the matter of uniform will go in SC....

Thereis a complete destruction..and quiteness...in PML(Q) ...even in PPPP...for deal...as both were not awre of this sudden meeting of Dictator with BB....

there was a hot fight ....on GEO Hamid Meer..capital talk...with Dr.Firdaud Aashiq awan..with Raza Hayat Hiraj...as why she left PML..and joined PPPP..recently...


Ch. Shujaat Hussain..yesterday said...Nawaz Sharif is fully allowed to come in pakistan...nobody will stop him....

Justice Fakhuruddin J Ibrahim..is going to file petion f NS in SC today.....

its seems that Chaudris ..are not happy with deal..as both PML and PPPP are idelogically at 180 degress....

its seems that Chaudris are producing soft corner for PML(N)....

as to offer pressure on PPPP and Dicataor...as they all are old times friends..though ..for 7 years...are not on good terms...

kabeer Ali Wasti...PML(Q) senior vice president said yesterday....


if Dictator ..try to make my party by pass by dealing with PPPP....my party will resist fully....

He said that...President shold..leave uniform..and re-elect from next assemblies...

he is the most powerful supporter of CJ of pakistan...in past..and said that...this case changed the history of Pakistan...

Its seems that there is a major seperation..even in Lota league for this deal of 2 power hungry...ullu kai phattai...

Maulana fazlur Rahman urf Mulla Disesel..is showing usual hypocrisy ..over the leaving assemblies and balochstan government where he is ally with PML(Q)....

Javed hashmi...PML(N) top most leader in Pakistan...will inshallh be soon out of prison after 4 or 5 long years....


Pa jee...Ifti...nai kharkha diya hai sub ko....

Mushy pagal ka bachhai hai..jis nai phadda kiya ...Ifti sai...

janta nahee ta...CJ kee kitni power hoti hai....

justice Ramdai...a judge who changed the history of pakistan...a day before yesterday..order to put down ..a 10 storey ...hospital..with name Masood hospital..on ferozpur Road ..Lahore...


this hospitl was made on Chor Bazari...with giving money to LDA and inspectors of bulidings..illegaly....

SC ordered that all the plazas of Lahore will have to face the same result....

there is geeart hustkle and bustle in Liberty ..Gulberg ..and Shah Allmi plazs..which have been made toatlly illegaly...by bribery to LDA....


the Dr Masood..the owner of hospital..engaged a US NGO and wrote letter ot PM Shaukat and Mushy....to stop SC of pakistn ...from destroying the Masood Hospital....

In a very angry mood..Justice Ramdai remarked...who arePM and resident to interfere in the orders of SC ....They should do thier own work....we know...what we have to do....PM should not interfere in provincial affiars..ordered by SC....

Yesterday...whole Maood Hospital was sealed..and today..machinery is brought to destroy it ..within 3 months ..era...given by SC to LDA Director general...



its seems that SC is on the new way...of bright pakistan....

and fear of a Dictator..became a old times story...

Hey, why not let Pakistan appoint a Hindu Prime Minister.

I am sure this would neutralize the Islamists jumping up and down like monkeys.

Hindu dhoti smells like Haldi..Bhaji....

better we make a monkey a PM of Pakistan than a hindu....makkar qaum....

who is this new inbred retard dawa-i-ass?

LOL....

truth is bitter ...arjun babu...kya bola ..theek...

Re: # 57

"Is there a communist party in Pakistan?"

Yes. There are several. There is a Communist Party of Pakistan. There is the Mazdoor Kissan Party of the Stalinist bent... there is the Labour Party which is trotskyite...

And then are splinter groups... several...

#113 zeemax: I agree with you on both the pluses and minuses of Sharif braderaan. In fact, I am told that the post-Soviet switch from nationalized industries to privatized ones was done for the first time under Nawaz Sharif (Manmohan Singh, then finance minister in India, followed this cue). (I am not sure how correct this is, and would be glad for any correction or confirmation of this from anyone).

Within a proper political framework, in fact, thee minuses of Sharif would have been neutralized - financing of the Raiwind estate would be checked by an independent auditor. Similarly, there are clearly checks and balances in democratic countries against physical assaults on the Supreme Court as well as attempts at using political means to prolong the prime minister's term in office indefinitely.

That is why I think it is more interesting at this stage to see the outcome of the struggle between the Chief Justice and the military (and I think the real struggle is going to take place in the months ahead, even though things have quieted down on the streets for now), than to be concerned about which particular party wins elections.

Re: # 121
Abey Be-dil-dabbey

Hindu dhoti is better than a mullah's dirty potty filled shalwaar.

makkar would be a good description of hypocrite "Islamic" idiots.

#125 Posted by tahmed32,

The NS Government placed the economy on track towards global integration with 'Protection of Economic Reforms Act, 1992' promulgated in his first tenure. That was the lead followed by Man Mohan Singh, the then FM of India.

Re privatizations, he was the one who replaced the bureaucrats heading banks etc with skilled professionals (e.g Shaukat Tareen) to turn them around and clean out the balance sheets in preparation for privatizations.

Re elections, of-course you know that the 'public' has little say in who comes to power. It is only and has always been a contest between 'political personalities' - CJ or no CJ. The only difference is that this time these may indeed be 'free and fair'. But only one of the existing political players can come to power. You will not see any new 'farishta' emerge.

It took a considerable time for the indian middle class to emerge and that happened only because of the democratic institutions that survived despite its shortcomings.

Actually Pakistan threw the baby away with water when its awaam started looking for "root" causes of its political mess. They threw away democracy by calling it a 'failure', 'unIslamic' and a 'western' concept.

India stuck with the democracy and multiculturalism and did not seek religious 'purity' in political process. Whether it happened consciously or naturally is irrelevant. It is now a historical fact that indian democratic polity is one of the reasons why india could survive and now emerge economically strong despite multi cultural states.
Pakistan should have struck with democracy and should have insisted upon the rule of civilian authority.
Un fortunately this obsession with individuals, prophet like personalities and nizams only made the rise of dictators easier than any one could think in the indian context.