Moral Bankruptcy of Political Leadership in Pakistan

masadi: I insist that between the two of us you are the bigger genius when you wrote The Army's job is to stay in the barracks and defend the country's borders from external aggression, period. .

I see you have quietly dropped this when presented with evidence to the contrary. That is progress I suppose.

Having dropped your absurd claim, you assign the following task to me Please find me ONE authoritative source from contemporary history and that is a challenge where the role of the US military is defined as detecting violations of the constitution by politicians and then mobilizing for action, I ask for JUST ONE.

The above assumes that I said the military can take a form of suo moto action to "detect violations" of the constitution. I never said that or implied that. So stick to what I wrote. There are no doubt valid issues of how and when the military (as per your above quote) can serve to protect the Constitution in Pakistan - but dont assume I have a view on that unless I express that.

Having made that clear (I hope), let me say that with respect to your example of a politican stepping over his constitutional authority, there are plenty of checks and balances available to Pakistan (as exemplified by the Supreme Court) that, if the Constitution was respected by the generals, would come into play to take care of the example you mention. Martial Law would in practice never take place if the generals felt bound to protect the Constitution.

With no further comments ... no anologies ... I hasten to add ....!

masadi: and write only one post in response to #81, not 5 posts as you have been doing. If you know what you are talking about, you should not need more than one post to respond to what I write.

Sattar, mazadi, zeemax & EVERYBODY:

This is the article when this miserable specimen called tsmithers32 licked his master's ass & felt proud that his Master dropped not one but two atomic bombs in the center of the most populated cities of Japan..

This arsehole is not with MUSLIMS..he is with the enemy!
Hope whenevr he rears his ugly head here he gets his snout rubbed & rubbed & rubbed till he forgets how to wag his tail & wiggle his behing whenever he smells his masters coming.

Just to reming everyone this baighairat got a thrashing from everyone then as well..hindus, muslims alike...Only the Ba Ba i Kanjaroon, now missing in action, the other enemy-lover tolerated this germ.

http://www.chowk.com/inte racts/9503/1/0/16#228036

http://www.chowk.com/ interacts/9503/1/0/16#228036

echboom: Writing anonymous abuses on chowk makes you feel good about yourself? And you need moral support from everyone in writing these abuses?

That says plenty about you, and nothing about me.

Now that tahmed has been stumped, clamoring for democracy while leaving an avenue open for the military to meddle in political affairs, just like the Turkish military and its constitution mongering in order to intefere in the political, he denies that he ever said it.

This is what the lying bas**** had said on this very thread, tahmed: "And the army's job is to protect the Constitution, and make sure that elected rulers dont then try to overstay their term..."

The army has no business meddling in any affairs of the state, its job has nothing to do with the constitution, its interpretation or punishing the violaters of it, its job is to stay in the barracks, leave internal law enforcement to the police, and in the US be subservient to the commander in cheif and have no say on his term in office, while defending the country from external aggression PERIOD.

Regarding the 5 posts they did not deal with the same issue, the couple or so that did were meant not for my understanding of the issue but for enhancing my case, and so that dumb fcuks like you don't get away with slogans of democracy garbed up with legitimation for military dictatorship

Tahmed Regarding the example, whether its democracy, you loll out your tongue in jubilation and whether its dictatorship you still loll out your tongue in jubilation, not knowing what will benefit and what will harm and ignorning all facts of the reality, you cling to your desire to worship the US elite, you remain a miserable dog...There, three more posts, and I sure and hell know what I'm talking about

In #89 read "There, three more posts, and I sure and hell know what I'm talking about " as

There, three more posts, and I sure as hell know what I'm talking about

--- Four posts..

#88 Posted by masadi,

With all due respect to tahmed32 sahib, he still needs to answer my question that while enthusiastically supporting the democracy movement in Pakistan, which political party will he vote for once his wishes come true?

tahmed writes "That says plenty about you, and nothing about me"

Yes it says a lot about echo, it says that he understands that you are a miserable fcuk who calls for the death and destruction of Muslims and poor folk around the globe while sloganeering about democracy and human rights and trying to legitimize the higher barbarism of the US elite. IT says a lot about echo, as a defender of the oppressed against the tyranny of hypocrites and sell outs like you who support not only this new colonization but the old barbaric colonization of the past. Your kind are the worst among humanity. Your kind will get what is coming to them soon enough...

Masadi:88
WELL the biggest jootaa (Chhitar size 20) on his face was from alephnull, which this pea-brain could not even understand..( see his howlingly clownish reply at 66).

Alephnull's post# 65 Joota is here again for this slave to savour:
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Alephnull: 65

tahmed32 #18
{{And the army's job is to protect the Constitution, and make sure that elected rulers dont then try to overstay their term.}}

and #59

{{What I stated as being the proper role of the armed forces (i.e. to defend the Constitution, not overthrow it) is in fact part of the generally accepted role of the armed forces in any country!!}}

Amen to that pair of posts, Janaab Tahmed! Thank you for that stunning exhibition of the military (OK, military-descended) mind in action! What a crying shame that some bloody civilians just won’t get the point :-(.
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and then , as in this joke, the baighairat asks the one who uses the jootaa on him :" Darling, when will you be back?"[ reply:#66]
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AlephN ull:65
If you, or anyone else, have heard this joke before then you might enjoy this a bit more "in-context"

This thief who in the dead of night had broken into this house
was busy picking up his loot when he tripped and was caught by the man sleeping there.

Once caught, the thief pleaded for mercy..he would be let go if he (the thief) would do a lube job on the owner.

Well, as you can imagine , the thief did find it a bit disgusting but still not too
harsh a punishment..especially when he was also allowed to take the loot.

Once the thief was done with the reaming ,as if dreaming , the man from under him, very coquettishly inquired : " Darling! when will you be back again".
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Can you, or others, spot some context here?

#92 Posted by masadi:


"..whether its democracy, you loll out your tongue in jubilation and whether its dictatorship you still loll out your tongue in jubilation, not knowing what will benefit and what will harm and ignorning all facts of the reality.."

I know a fair number of chowk interactors who fit the above description. So why are you singling out tahmed sahib?

I am simply amazed ... everyone seems to be against tahmed ... Indians, Pakistanis, ... Liberaloon, Funduloon!

But there must be something very good in him ... otherwise, he would just have been ignored.

Anyway, tahmed sahib ... I am with you (if it counts at all). You are a good man.

masadi #92 I told you to stick to one post, so I will ignore the rest as before and respond to this one.
You start by calling me a " miserable fcuk". Very good. I dont need to read the rest.

Now go back and write 5 more posts. echoboom will no doubt be very pleased and write another lengthy, abusive post. You can then both pat each other on the back.

GT #94 Greetings. And thanks for the vote of confidence. :-)