The Deal and Our Responsibility
Muneeb Khan July 31, 2007
#1 Posted by GT on July 31, 2007 10:59:36 am
“Ask not what your country can do for you: Ask what you can do for your country“
Bull ...
Why?
The common people of Pakistan have done a lot for their country (read the ruling classes) .... sacrificing their lives from Afganisthan to Kargil. It is time for people to ask what their country can do for them.
Bull ...
Why?
The common people of Pakistan have done a lot for their country (read the ruling classes) .... sacrificing their lives from Afganisthan to Kargil. It is time for people to ask what their country can do for them.
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#2 Posted by masadi on July 31, 2007 11:17:29 am
"I would have had no objection if PPP had come to Power after a free and fair election, but conspiring with USA to get to power and striking deals with Dictator is not what I expected from the Daughter of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto"
Free and fair ha ha, mian the US doesn't want to deal with Musharraf, they need a stop gap and the BB will fill the vacuum, and since Musharraf has been skinned alive (i.e. stripped of the uniform for all real intents and purposes- that is why he's running to the BB for survival). Now she knows "with" the Uniform he is the center of power, without it he is Horse sh**, so she wants it off- that is no deal man, that is deceit! He knows it so he wants to keep the uniform and then dictate to the BB using the power of the army, that is no deal man, that is deceit too. So what has changed? No warming up his manuvering to strike the dagger at the right moment.
But BB has the upper hand, you know why? Because the US doesn't wanna deal with Musharraf anymore. It's a struggle for his life not for power at this moment, and I am thinking that he will lose it based on his stupidity... Now (pardon me HP), did you read what Lee Hamilton, Bush's Homeland Security Advisory Council member said: yeah, he let the cat out of the bag (or he might have been reading Chowk and our interacts- either/or, or the past history of Pakistani power adjustments that was written before the events by the US!). Let me quote from Dawn (July 31, 2007):
"He rejected Islamabad's argument that a direct military action (by the US) would cause the government to fall and enable extremists to come to power. He said "The reality is
that his rule is endangered because of his own heavy-handed tactics, and his current behavior has facilitated the growth of Islamic extremism". He argued that extremists were not strong enough to take over the country, he said "It is far more likely that another Pakistani general or a political bloc led by a former prime minister would take over were Musharraf's government to fall."
Ha ha the Einstein with access to NIEs has come to this estimate or has he let the cat out of the bag....what have I been saying for months on here now. Also read the above carefully the insiders are NOT interested in extremists taking over or not, they are downplaying that to get rid of Musharraf- what do you gather from that? Internal threat to the US from Pakistan? Of course not because he downplays extremists in Pakistan, the need for this adjustment by the US is because of external ulterior motive, that is why they have ALWAYS been interested in Pakistan and not for anything internal, as their occupation force, aka the Pakistan Army is fully incharge.....Needless noise and clmoring and slogans by the Jihadists and the Americans pooh pooh them as "real threat" while build them up for adjustment purposes, that is why I say the Jihadists are nothing more than tools in the hands of the Shaitan of the present, i.e. the US elite........Listen and learn from this Zee mian...
Free and fair ha ha, mian the US doesn't want to deal with Musharraf, they need a stop gap and the BB will fill the vacuum, and since Musharraf has been skinned alive (i.e. stripped of the uniform for all real intents and purposes- that is why he's running to the BB for survival). Now she knows "with" the Uniform he is the center of power, without it he is Horse sh**, so she wants it off- that is no deal man, that is deceit! He knows it so he wants to keep the uniform and then dictate to the BB using the power of the army, that is no deal man, that is deceit too. So what has changed? No warming up his manuvering to strike the dagger at the right moment.
But BB has the upper hand, you know why? Because the US doesn't wanna deal with Musharraf anymore. It's a struggle for his life not for power at this moment, and I am thinking that he will lose it based on his stupidity... Now (pardon me HP), did you read what Lee Hamilton, Bush's Homeland Security Advisory Council member said: yeah, he let the cat out of the bag (or he might have been reading Chowk and our interacts- either/or, or the past history of Pakistani power adjustments that was written before the events by the US!). Let me quote from Dawn (July 31, 2007):
"He rejected Islamabad's argument that a direct military action (by the US) would cause the government to fall and enable extremists to come to power. He said "The reality is
that his rule is endangered because of his own heavy-handed tactics, and his current behavior has facilitated the growth of Islamic extremism". He argued that extremists were not strong enough to take over the country, he said "It is far more likely that another Pakistani general or a political bloc led by a former prime minister would take over were Musharraf's government to fall."
Ha ha the Einstein with access to NIEs has come to this estimate or has he let the cat out of the bag....what have I been saying for months on here now. Also read the above carefully the insiders are NOT interested in extremists taking over or not, they are downplaying that to get rid of Musharraf- what do you gather from that? Internal threat to the US from Pakistan? Of course not because he downplays extremists in Pakistan, the need for this adjustment by the US is because of external ulterior motive, that is why they have ALWAYS been interested in Pakistan and not for anything internal, as their occupation force, aka the Pakistan Army is fully incharge.....Needless noise and clmoring and slogans by the Jihadists and the Americans pooh pooh them as "real threat" while build them up for adjustment purposes, that is why I say the Jihadists are nothing more than tools in the hands of the Shaitan of the present, i.e. the US elite........Listen and learn from this Zee mian...
#3 Posted by masadi on July 31, 2007 11:19:15 am
In #2 read "No warming up his manuvering to strike the dagger at the right moment. "
As
This is no warming up man, it's manuvering to strike the dagger into the opponent at the right moment."
As
This is no warming up man, it's manuvering to strike the dagger into the opponent at the right moment."
#4 Posted by masadi on July 31, 2007 11:29:29 am
The author writes "And your Country asks for your vote."
You should have finished the thought man by quoting echo at the end.
And the country asks for your vote...and after that its (army) business as usual
What a miserably barbarous comedy enacted by the US elite....
You should have finished the thought man by quoting echo at the end.
And the country asks for your vote...and after that its (army) business as usual
What a miserably barbarous comedy enacted by the US elite....
#5 Posted by masadi on July 31, 2007 11:49:14 am
Musharraf or the "Little" Saddam = )
Couldn't resist posting this Lee Hamilton report
"(Quote) The time has come to bear down on Musharraf. For years, he has captivated the United States by presenting himself as a secular moderate in a region beset by religious extremists. But his actions have not matched his rhetoric. He has promised to cease Pakistan's support for the Taliban and round up al-Qaida, but failed to deliver. He has promised to transition Pakistan toward open democracy, but continues to govern like a military dictator. Meanwhile, he has received $10 billions in U.S. aid since Sept. 11.
It is not acceptable for al-Qaida to retain a safe haven in Pakistan's tribal areas. We cannot permit another attack on the United States. Further U.S. military aid to Pakistan should be conditional on Pakistani action. And we must be clear with Musharraf that if Pakistan won't take out al-Qaida, the United States will. Here, we have many tactical options that do not involve a substantial ground force: covert actions, special operations and air strikes, including unmanned aircrafts. Before acting, we would have to be certain that our action was the only remaining option to eliminate the sanctuary.
Musharraf's argument against this kind of direct action -- by his government, or the United States -- is that it would cause his government to fall and enable Islamic extremists to come to power. The reality is that his rule is endangered because of his own heavy-handed tactics, and his current behavior has facilitated the growth of Islamic extremism. Furthermore, Islamic extremists are not strong enough to take over the country; it is far more likely that another Pakistani general or a political bloc led by a former prime minister would take over were Musharaff's government to fall.
The United States must make clear that our interests in Pakistan go beyond the rule of its president. Musharraf has insisted on keeping his position as the head of Pakistan's military despite promises to transfer to civilian leadership, refused to permit former civilian prime ministers to enter the country, cracked down on independent media, and rigged elections. His recent attempt to fire the chief justice of Pakistan's Supreme Court sparked intense protests and was eventually overturned.
There have been some improvements in Pakistani life, including economic growth. But most ordinary Pakistanis see the United States backing an autocratic leader. As we take a tougher line on counter-terrorism, we should broaden our engagement with the Pakistani people. We should increase aid for secular education and civil society, so that we help create alternatives to radical Islam, and show the Pakistani people that we want to help them achieve a better future.
We need to proceed with care in Pakistan, a country beset by radical Islam. But we must also have red lines. In the rugged tribal areas of Pakistan, those red lines are being crossed as al-Qaida has reconstituted a base. For the security of the American people -- and for the future of Pakistan -- we must send President Musharraf a clear message: Enough is enough (End quote)
Couldn't resist posting this Lee Hamilton report
"(Quote) The time has come to bear down on Musharraf. For years, he has captivated the United States by presenting himself as a secular moderate in a region beset by religious extremists. But his actions have not matched his rhetoric. He has promised to cease Pakistan's support for the Taliban and round up al-Qaida, but failed to deliver. He has promised to transition Pakistan toward open democracy, but continues to govern like a military dictator. Meanwhile, he has received $10 billions in U.S. aid since Sept. 11.
It is not acceptable for al-Qaida to retain a safe haven in Pakistan's tribal areas. We cannot permit another attack on the United States. Further U.S. military aid to Pakistan should be conditional on Pakistani action. And we must be clear with Musharraf that if Pakistan won't take out al-Qaida, the United States will. Here, we have many tactical options that do not involve a substantial ground force: covert actions, special operations and air strikes, including unmanned aircrafts. Before acting, we would have to be certain that our action was the only remaining option to eliminate the sanctuary.
Musharraf's argument against this kind of direct action -- by his government, or the United States -- is that it would cause his government to fall and enable Islamic extremists to come to power. The reality is that his rule is endangered because of his own heavy-handed tactics, and his current behavior has facilitated the growth of Islamic extremism. Furthermore, Islamic extremists are not strong enough to take over the country; it is far more likely that another Pakistani general or a political bloc led by a former prime minister would take over were Musharaff's government to fall.
The United States must make clear that our interests in Pakistan go beyond the rule of its president. Musharraf has insisted on keeping his position as the head of Pakistan's military despite promises to transfer to civilian leadership, refused to permit former civilian prime ministers to enter the country, cracked down on independent media, and rigged elections. His recent attempt to fire the chief justice of Pakistan's Supreme Court sparked intense protests and was eventually overturned.
There have been some improvements in Pakistani life, including economic growth. But most ordinary Pakistanis see the United States backing an autocratic leader. As we take a tougher line on counter-terrorism, we should broaden our engagement with the Pakistani people. We should increase aid for secular education and civil society, so that we help create alternatives to radical Islam, and show the Pakistani people that we want to help them achieve a better future.
We need to proceed with care in Pakistan, a country beset by radical Islam. But we must also have red lines. In the rugged tribal areas of Pakistan, those red lines are being crossed as al-Qaida has reconstituted a base. For the security of the American people -- and for the future of Pakistan -- we must send President Musharraf a clear message: Enough is enough (End quote)
#6 Posted by zeemax on July 31, 2007 12:07:07 pm
#1 Posted by GT,
Agree. The time of emotional blackmail by a few asking for sacrifices by many is gone.
Agree. The time of emotional blackmail by a few asking for sacrifices by many is gone.
#7 Posted by bulleya on July 31, 2007 12:50:32 pm
i think if musharraf and bb do a deal, and the ppp leadership and jiyalas don't go up in arms, pakistan will have an mma govt. within a decade...
the ppp-army coaltion will have mqm as a partner.....the three most liberal and westernized leaderships in pakistan.....and pro-america.......however, the three most morally and financially corrupt groups.......
.......the liberal pro-west leadership has really lost their head........they have created an invisible enemy of, "islamic extremism" in pakistan, which, apparently, needs to be fought at all costs.....
.....the only religious extremism organic to pakistan is shia-sunni terrorism.......which seems to have finished now......all other militant religious extremism is part and parcel of foreign policy......it is not indigenous to pakistan......the moment pakistan breaks ties with usa on foreign policy, it will disapp'ear.....
.......following is an interesting line from daily times........a newspaper that is hell bent on having the musharraf-bb leadership in power, because it will take on, "religious extremism"....."For Pakistan, democracy is important, but even more important than that is the extirpation of terrorism and its parallel governance." (daily times).....
amazing......
the ppp-army coaltion will have mqm as a partner.....the three most liberal and westernized leaderships in pakistan.....and pro-america.......however, the three most morally and financially corrupt groups.......
.......the liberal pro-west leadership has really lost their head........they have created an invisible enemy of, "islamic extremism" in pakistan, which, apparently, needs to be fought at all costs.....
.....the only religious extremism organic to pakistan is shia-sunni terrorism.......which seems to have finished now......all other militant religious extremism is part and parcel of foreign policy......it is not indigenous to pakistan......the moment pakistan breaks ties with usa on foreign policy, it will disapp'ear.....
.......following is an interesting line from daily times........a newspaper that is hell bent on having the musharraf-bb leadership in power, because it will take on, "religious extremism"....."For Pakistan, democracy is important, but even more important than that is the extirpation of terrorism and its parallel governance." (daily times).....
amazing......
#8 Posted by rf786 on July 31, 2007 11:03:36 pm
Dear writer,
what choice are u offering? Mma (MUllAOON)? PML-N (Tinda Sharif)?
what choice are u offering? Mma (MUllAOON)? PML-N (Tinda Sharif)?
#9 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 11:25:41 pm
this lady..is one of the most wicked..makkar..chalak..ayyar...fitnai baaz...Phappai kutni....mohallai mai larai karwanai wali massi type thing....
Fisrt she captured Nawaz Sharif in so called Meesaqa_i_Jamhooriat...broke it..then shatterd APC of London...by plaing double way..and atlast today...met with Dictator...in Abu Dhabi...for deal...
Now..at this time...about 9 Pm in Pakistan..2nd session of talk of Benazir with Dictator is going on....
is nai pani phair diya Ch Ietezaz Ehsan of PPPP kee naqabalai farmosh jidojahid par..jo us nai kee..against the dictorship for 4 months....He won one the greatest case of pakistan history...and defeated the whole government in legal case...media...political front..even in drivery for 26 long hours from islambad to Lahore... ...he smacked down the whole government...and blasted the whole "Dhanda" of reference which the government started against the CJ of pakistan...and all others PPPP workers which were against any deal...
LANAT on her...mega Lanat ..on her again...
Fisrt she captured Nawaz Sharif in so called Meesaqa_i_Jamhooriat...broke it..then shatterd APC of London...by plaing double way..and atlast today...met with Dictator...in Abu Dhabi...for deal...
Now..at this time...about 9 Pm in Pakistan..2nd session of talk of Benazir with Dictator is going on....
is nai pani phair diya Ch Ietezaz Ehsan of PPPP kee naqabalai farmosh jidojahid par..jo us nai kee..against the dictorship for 4 months....He won one the greatest case of pakistan history...and defeated the whole government in legal case...media...political front..even in drivery for 26 long hours from islambad to Lahore... ...he smacked down the whole government...and blasted the whole "Dhanda" of reference which the government started against the CJ of pakistan...and all others PPPP workers which were against any deal...
LANAT on her...mega Lanat ..on her again...
#10 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 11:26:08 pm
Look at the most wicked an dcorrupt lady of pakistan...for swiss cases ...deletion..she is going to to any extent with a Dictator....
Look at the baighairat general...who said that ..i will never deal with such corrupt leader..now in the feet of BB to have some pie fro her to save his trembling and shvering presidency....
Lanat on both....how they forgot the 160 milion people ..the local leaders of PPPP in Pakistan...the whole political scenario...
lanat on both...one want his next 5 years...with uniform.....and other want his cases to be deleted....
Oh Allah Almighty...you have saved our nation ..on 4 :17 pm of 20 july,2007..when the voice coming from the SC ....shatterted the pillar of dictatorship.....
O God..we are in danger again...the power hungry are flying above us...Oh Allah...show your power ..might and strenght agin..as you once showed ....in last 4 months..when millions of pakistanis come like mad on the street for a judge..a miracle first ever happened in the human history.....
O Allah....the vultures are about to eat us..and we are helpless...our eyes are on you...and our tongues are just asking you...show your power...and destroy everyone who is against this country...destroy every power seeker.....destroy every hungry..greedy...and wicked ...make them Nishan-e-Ibrat..to us....
and show your might as you once showed in last 4 months
Look at the baighairat general...who said that ..i will never deal with such corrupt leader..now in the feet of BB to have some pie fro her to save his trembling and shvering presidency....
Lanat on both....how they forgot the 160 milion people ..the local leaders of PPPP in Pakistan...the whole political scenario...
lanat on both...one want his next 5 years...with uniform.....and other want his cases to be deleted....
Oh Allah Almighty...you have saved our nation ..on 4 :17 pm of 20 july,2007..when the voice coming from the SC ....shatterted the pillar of dictatorship.....
O God..we are in danger again...the power hungry are flying above us...Oh Allah...show your power ..might and strenght agin..as you once showed ....in last 4 months..when millions of pakistanis come like mad on the street for a judge..a miracle first ever happened in the human history.....
O Allah....the vultures are about to eat us..and we are helpless...our eyes are on you...and our tongues are just asking you...show your power...and destroy everyone who is against this country...destroy every power seeker.....destroy every hungry..greedy...and wicked ...make them Nishan-e-Ibrat..to us....
and show your might as you once showed in last 4 months
#11 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 11:26:33 pm
His honurable ..Justice Rana Bhagwandas today..ordered to listen the petition of Qazi Hussain Ahmed (MMA) over the Dictator uniform issue...when Qazi challenged the uniform issue ...in SC of Pakistan....
This is the real test case of SC....hope to get good news ..on this case also...by kicking out this Dictaor from the Army uniform....
This is the real test case of SC....hope to get good news ..on this case also...by kicking out this Dictaor from the Army uniform....
#12 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 11:26:55 pm
The Shahzada of Rawalpindi and Lota-e-Azam...Shiekh Raseed (whose Urdu is excellent)constantly saying today...that Dictator will re-elect from same assemblies for 5 more years...with uniform....
while PML(Q) second president ..Kabeer Wasti...Mushaid Hussain( PML GS)...and other top leaders of PML(Q) are saying that..he should leave the uniform..and re-elect from next assemblies....
but lotai..chamchai..and pitthoo...tody..are saying ...that ..for thier seats..as Zill-e-Subhani become extremely happy on these lotas remarks like Sh.Rasheed...
he not know...how this thig create huge protests against the Dictaor in Pakistan..and how this thing is dangerous
while PML(Q) second president ..Kabeer Wasti...Mushaid Hussain( PML GS)...and other top leaders of PML(Q) are saying that..he should leave the uniform..and re-elect from next assemblies....
but lotai..chamchai..and pitthoo...tody..are saying ...that ..for thier seats..as Zill-e-Subhani become extremely happy on these lotas remarks like Sh.Rasheed...
he not know...how this thig create huge protests against the Dictaor in Pakistan..and how this thing is dangerous
#13 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 11:27:22 pm
Munir A Malik ...the president of pakistan Supreme court Bar Council..and Bukhari..the GS of Bar Council..said today that..they will cut that hand of all opposition leaders.....who will try to deal with a Dictator..at these crucial moments...when the dictator ship..is just about to sink...They not named that opposition leader...but clearly..they were pointing towards..Bainazir...
The lawyers ..have declared..a wide range moment against the army uniform of a Dictator..and relection from the same assembly.....
Ch ietzaaz ahsan..which has won the greats battle of 60 years..will not move with PPPP...if Benair will make a deal with a Dictator....Raza Rabbani(PPPP Senate oppostion Leader)...Makdoom Ameen Faheem..and Ghulam Mustafa Khar...and Jahangir Badar...also get annoyed over the deal with a Dictator.....
The PPPP...is in very difficult situation....if it deals..part workers and leaders run..if not..then corruption cases cannot be deleted....
bari mushkil mai par gai hai BB.....
The lawyers ..have declared..a wide range moment against the army uniform of a Dictator..and relection from the same assembly.....
Ch ietzaaz ahsan..which has won the greats battle of 60 years..will not move with PPPP...if Benair will make a deal with a Dictator....Raza Rabbani(PPPP Senate oppostion Leader)...Makdoom Ameen Faheem..and Ghulam Mustafa Khar...and Jahangir Badar...also get annoyed over the deal with a Dictator.....
The PPPP...is in very difficult situation....if it deals..part workers and leaders run..if not..then corruption cases cannot be deleted....
bari mushkil mai par gai hai BB.....
#14 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 11:27:39 pm
The breaking news is that ..Government has opened 50% accounts of Bainazir..which were closed in looting and corruption cases before...
Governor Punjab..also confirmend the deal and meeting of dictator with BB.....
lagta hai...daal mai kuch kala hai.....
aur andar hee andar koi khicree pak rahee hai....
lagta hai..deal final ho gai hai.....
Governor Punjab..also confirmend the deal and meeting of dictator with BB.....
lagta hai...daal mai kuch kala hai.....
aur andar hee andar koi khicree pak rahee hai....
lagta hai..deal final ho gai hai.....
#15 Posted by dawa-i-dil on July 31, 2007 11:28:55 pm
A man of unbeatable repute and respect..his honurable/...the retired judge of SC ...who resigned on taking oath on PCO by General Zia-ul-Haq...justice(R) Fakhruddin J Ibrahim..is going to file a petition in SC of pakistan..for Nawaz Sharif and Shahbaz Sharif..for thier return in Pakistan..as citizens..of pakistan..its thier right to come Pakistan at any time..
though thier exile treaty was a political death...but now..i think..he is the only man popular in 4 provinces..and can dare to fight with US ...and neglect all its pressure with boldness..as he once showed on 5 atomic explosions ..by refusing 5 phone calls of US president....
today..Nawa-i-Waqt said...Musharraf ..asked King Abdullah to stop Nawaz ..coming back...to pakistan..but they refused that..if SC will favour the Nawaz Sharif..they will obey the orders of SC....
hope to see him ..back Pakistan..soon..inshallah...as SC ..i hope..cannot stop any ctizen of pakistan's basic right to come into Pakistan....it is his basic right....
though thier exile treaty was a political death...but now..i think..he is the only man popular in 4 provinces..and can dare to fight with US ...and neglect all its pressure with boldness..as he once showed on 5 atomic explosions ..by refusing 5 phone calls of US president....
today..Nawa-i-Waqt said...Musharraf ..asked King Abdullah to stop Nawaz ..coming back...to pakistan..but they refused that..if SC will favour the Nawaz Sharif..they will obey the orders of SC....
hope to see him ..back Pakistan..soon..inshallah...as SC ..i hope..cannot stop any ctizen of pakistan's basic right to come into Pakistan....it is his basic right....
#17 Posted by muneebkhan on August 1, 2007 3:53:49 am
Re: # 8
I am not offering you any choices. It is you to decide what choice you are going to go for.
It is very easy for us to blame the politicians for the mess we are in. But infact it is us who are the major culprits in this.
We rejoice when ever army intervenes to take over the government. And what ever little chance we are given to elect our rules we always vote for the same guyz(families) again and again)
Common misconception prevailing in Pakistan is, Jageerdars, Feudal Lords etc, are voted in from the rural areas of Pakistan where the majority of voters are illeterate, is that so. No sir, even in the urban areas the same kind of people are elected. So is the educated class any different than the uneducated one. We believe we possess the the acumen and education to figure out who is best for pakistan and yet we do the same mistakes as our unfortunate brothers.
These politicians in the parliament are there because we elect them not because they are imposed on us. We can blame other countries for their muddling in our politics, but come election time we are the one who choose the elected representatives.
I am no different that any other. As in 2002 I wanted to vote for Imran Khan Party, but ended up voting for PML(N), just because I thought his candidate had a better chance of winning. I wanted to vote for a Winning Party not one in which I believed in, Why? I didnt wanted to waste my vote by voting for a loosing cause. Isnt this a common problem among us, we only want to vote for someone who we think can win rather than following our conscience.
That is what i am requesting in this article. Vote according to your conscience. If we keep on electing the same persons again and again it is us to blame not the politicians. Our vote is important. Evey constituency has atleast 6-7 candidates contesting the election, there should be 1 or 2 which you think can become the new leaders of Pakistan and might be different than the current ones. By not giving them the chance they seek, we end up being part of the problem not the solution.
If you are fed up with the current Politicians it is your responsibility to vote for a change regardless of the outcome. If we all decide simultaneously that we want fresh air in the parliament then we all have to collectively work on it i.e vote for new people and new parties rather than the current power brokers. Only in this way our system can be overhauled
In nutshell if you want to vote for Imran Khan(PTI), MMA, Musharraf(Q League + PPP), Benazir Bhutto(PPP), MQM, independent or any other party candidate, your choice should be based on who you fathom is best of Pakistan not on his chances of winning the constituency
I am not offering you any choices. It is you to decide what choice you are going to go for.
It is very easy for us to blame the politicians for the mess we are in. But infact it is us who are the major culprits in this.
We rejoice when ever army intervenes to take over the government. And what ever little chance we are given to elect our rules we always vote for the same guyz(families) again and again)
Common misconception prevailing in Pakistan is, Jageerdars, Feudal Lords etc, are voted in from the rural areas of Pakistan where the majority of voters are illeterate, is that so. No sir, even in the urban areas the same kind of people are elected. So is the educated class any different than the uneducated one. We believe we possess the the acumen and education to figure out who is best for pakistan and yet we do the same mistakes as our unfortunate brothers.
These politicians in the parliament are there because we elect them not because they are imposed on us. We can blame other countries for their muddling in our politics, but come election time we are the one who choose the elected representatives.
I am no different that any other. As in 2002 I wanted to vote for Imran Khan Party, but ended up voting for PML(N), just because I thought his candidate had a better chance of winning. I wanted to vote for a Winning Party not one in which I believed in, Why? I didnt wanted to waste my vote by voting for a loosing cause. Isnt this a common problem among us, we only want to vote for someone who we think can win rather than following our conscience.
That is what i am requesting in this article. Vote according to your conscience. If we keep on electing the same persons again and again it is us to blame not the politicians. Our vote is important. Evey constituency has atleast 6-7 candidates contesting the election, there should be 1 or 2 which you think can become the new leaders of Pakistan and might be different than the current ones. By not giving them the chance they seek, we end up being part of the problem not the solution.
If you are fed up with the current Politicians it is your responsibility to vote for a change regardless of the outcome. If we all decide simultaneously that we want fresh air in the parliament then we all have to collectively work on it i.e vote for new people and new parties rather than the current power brokers. Only in this way our system can be overhauled
In nutshell if you want to vote for Imran Khan(PTI), MMA, Musharraf(Q League + PPP), Benazir Bhutto(PPP), MQM, independent or any other party candidate, your choice should be based on who you fathom is best of Pakistan not on his chances of winning the constituency
#19 Posted by rf786 on August 1, 2007 7:48:31 am
Re: # 15
Abay Chutyam Sulphate, have u forgotten how your proud punjabi murgh chollay ran with his soiled dhoti to Billy Boy Clinton. Too much lassi or is it the genes that makes paindoos like u, its truly amazing, but pls do keep posting cause its ppl like u who make life entertaining.
Abay Chutyam Sulphate, have u forgotten how your proud punjabi murgh chollay ran with his soiled dhoti to Billy Boy Clinton. Too much lassi or is it the genes that makes paindoos like u, its truly amazing, but pls do keep posting cause its ppl like u who make life entertaining.
#20 Posted by rf786 on August 1, 2007 7:52:58 am
Re: # 13
{Munir A Malik ...the president of pakistan Supreme court Bar Council..and Bukhari..the GS of Bar Council..said today that..they will cut that hand of all opposition leaders.....who will try to deal with a Dictator..}
Is'nt he the same jackass who threatened to blow up the SC if they decided against their filed petition? Then ofcourse he went on his choppayas to apologize....so much for asswipes like these....and more importantly u r a bigger to believe idiots like these.
{Munir A Malik ...the president of pakistan Supreme court Bar Council..and Bukhari..the GS of Bar Council..said today that..they will cut that hand of all opposition leaders.....who will try to deal with a Dictator..}
Is'nt he the same jackass who threatened to blow up the SC if they decided against their filed petition? Then ofcourse he went on his choppayas to apologize....so much for asswipes like these....and more importantly u r a bigger to believe idiots like these.
#21 Posted by laddu on August 1, 2007 9:32:51 am
Hey, you guys first distibute ladoos when a civilian government is screw$d because you love dictators who are Islamic nizam-e-mustafa.
After all democracy is an unIslamic concept? No?
Now you do not want a woman to be your "nizami" because Islam cannot let women be the head of a state??
After all democracy is an unIslamic concept? No?
Now you do not want a woman to be your "nizami" because Islam cannot let women be the head of a state??
#22 Posted by zeemax on August 1, 2007 9:51:11 am
Posted by rf786,
... abey fake_bismillah ... look at the before/after photos of you hero after being thoroughly bambooed ...:
... abey fake_bismillah ... look at the before/after photos of you hero after being thoroughly bambooed ...:
#23 Posted by rf786 on August 1, 2007 10:38:53 am
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