Science and the Islamic world --- The quest for rapprochement

Re: # 568 Tahmed Chacha

Guruji, I hope you slept well.

So even today you will remain silent, as you have always been (wink wink), about the systematic and state-sponsored massacre of millions of Pakistani Hindus over the last sixty years. Right?

So, what did Modi do, please?

The real meaning of what this tahmed dude is offering is this...

Pls come to pakiland, I shall be your guest..pls invite all your near, dear ones to accompany you...if possible get your neighbours too..the only criterion, they must all be hindus...

I shall take you to Katas Raj temple wherein I get an "have to take" call on my mobile and I shall then move away from the group as far as possible without seeming to run away...

A suicide bomber, set up by this dude in advance then appears and you know the rest.....

The only dampner could be...are there mobile phones in Pakiland?

What a nice guy/statesman Musharraf is, he rejected
imposing emergency and marcial law.
Some of the hateful Pakistanis are unnecessarily berating
him, like those Pundit Hate Indians are berating ...

#606 shishapa: my parents and grandparents fled for their lives too from india in 1947. so save your sad melodies for bollywood.

When your grandparents and parents were living
amongst use, we either killed them or coverted or
kicked them out without remorse just because they
were different than us in only one aspect but you are
welcome to visit as a visitor so we will be nice to
you and/so say how nice we are.

#603 Posted by tahmed32 on August 9, 2007 5:42:25 am


on the the realities of Pakistan that thousands of Indians saw for themselves when they actually visited Pakistan.


translation from prophetese to english: we didn't charge visiting Indians cab fare and whatnot so it's ok if we do the jihadi thingy...and we're still on the moral high ground..because I, prophet tahmed(peace be unto my self-righteous left butt cheek), say so...

#601 jang: not being as smart as you, I can only write inanities. Your posts are loaded no doubt with hidden meanings that a mere mortal like me cannot comprehend.

harish_hyd: #594 Actually, given the economic and military realities underlying India-Pakistan relations in point #2 of my post #436, any responsible Indian would give two hoots - and more - about peace and stability within Pakistan. If they are interested in the interests of people in India, i.e., rather than in merely stoking their own tender egos and insecurities.

You quote me saying "They say that the best way to get rid of an enemy is to make it a friend. In Pakistan, India has a historic opportunity today to do exactly this" you respond And why not the other way round? Why can't Pakistan do the same by demonstrating its sincerity of intent by ceasing support for and acting against terrorist groups that act against India? If Pakistan can do so, would there be any reason for India/Indians to hate Pakistan?

My answer is simple: Read point 1 of my post #436 on the the realities of Pakistan that thousands of Indians saw for themselves when they actually visited Pakistan. How does what you say above jive with the realities I present there?

#601 by jang

mohar and giani, what tahmed means is we should laud his inane pontifications on the chowk.com .. that is what he means by how indians should help ;-)

giani

When mush took over - indian gov't refused to deal with him for a while - because of kargil and the fact that he toppled an elected democratic govt... but pakis were livid at the time - jumping up and down as usual accusing indians all sorts of epithets... mushy was their knight in shining armor...

And now suddenly they want indians to "help" them out against same mushy... :)

"Helping" other countries in their internal matters is risky business even in best of circumstance -e.g. srilanka... in case of a paranoid nation like pakiland - there is no chance...

borivili

you have no beef with hinuds? when did that happen ? when daisy-cutter rained down?... :)

As for "atrocities" against muslims - like I said, we may have killed 4000 - but you killed a million and counting... so actually we treating muslims better than you treat your fellow-muslims... we are not even talking about atrocities of your minorities...

if you want a fight, we will give you a fight... the choice is yours really... be peaceful and live ...or be a bedouin and fight till last muslim child[your words]...

#597 by borivili_express

Listen Ganpats We have no beef with you, we are even related to some of you but for us this life is not as dear as the next, and if you don’t stop your atrocities on muslims we will fight you till either we or u make an exit because according to islam there is no country which can surrender the rights of all muslims.

Yaar Borivili, we sympathize with you. You said for you this life is not as important as the next. We're doing our best helping you transition to the next life.

Listen Ganpats We have no beef with you, we are even related to some of you but for us this life is not as dear as the next, and if you don’t stop your atrocities on muslims we will fight you till either we or u make an exit because according to islam there is no country which can surrender the rights of all muslims.

Correction:

My post #595 was in response to #522 by tahmed.

594 Posted by harish_hyd

[They say that the best way to get rid of an enemy is to make it a friend. In Pakistan, India has a historic opportunity today to do exactly this, per what I wrote in bold at the end.]

As Urstruly will tell you, there is no PERMANENT way to make friends with Muslims as a community. On an individual level - ecrtainly. But not as a group.

Islam teaches them to make friends and be humble when things are inconvenient. But when the going is good - their true colors come out - the emphasis is then on assimilation and coercion of non-Muslims.