Science and the Islamic world --- The quest for rapprochement

OK. my seemingly unlimited chowk time is now used up. I shall be back later. So, arjun, giani, subhashjoshi: take your time to think about what I have written in #456. I am sure you can do better than what you have done so far.

Dost Mittar: just count your blessings you are counted as a "kuldip nayyar" by your countrymen. According to Masadi, I am a peon of the west. And to this I can add the honors just bestowed by Indians infuriated by my presenting certain ground realities which I have asked them to think about above in the meantime. Perhaps you can help them along here. :-)

#569 Posted by tahmed32 on August 8, 2007 11:00:12 am


On Modi, as I told arjun, it doesnt matter which list he belongs to in the US.


You said he was on the terrorist list..a claim shown to be patently false as is obvious by your furious backtracking...

giani #564: writing gibberish on the internet requires "gonads"?

dost mittar #561 welcome to the mid-afternoon chowk chai party.

On Modi, as I told arjun, it doesnt matter which list he belongs to in the US. The important fact is that as an elected chief minister in India, he was denied permission to enter the US on account of his association with the gujerat murders of indian muslims. That is what Indians need to remind themselves every time they feel like jumping on a moral pedestal to preach to Pakistanis about nurturing criminals in their midst. In fact (to take borrow the moral pedestal for a second for Pakistan), unlike Indians, we dont elect criminals and persona non grata in other countries to high office. :-)

On your advice to arjun: that is good advice, and exactly the point I have tried to make in #456. I have yet to have any of your countrymen take up my challenge to focus on the realities I present there, with arjun studiously avoiding any reference to it!! So much for chowk as the cross-roads of ideas or discussion.

While satisfying their petty little minds by gloating about India and tarring Pakistanis as terorists, Indians like arjun ignore the fact they are doing exactly what Ben Laden and Musharraf (for different reasons) would love to see them do, and exactly what is in the worst interest of Indians themselves.

subhasjoshi #566: get a grip on yourself. I know reality is hard to face, but be brave. You can fix your problems, like I suggested you do before I am willing to waste my precious chowk time with you.

Re: # 568 Tahmed Chacha

Guruji, I hope you slept well.

So even today you will remain silent, as you have always been (wink wink), about the systematic and state-sponsored massacre of millions of Pakistani Hindus over the last sixty years. Right?

So, what did Modi do, please?

Re: # 610

Subhash,

I do not think Tahmed has anything to say. Unfortunately, he seems to be a victim of the herd mentality whereby any perceived ill towards muslims is blown out of proportion but there is an absolute silence when they are busy blowing themseleves and other people up.

I suprised to see that people like YLH, echo, zeemax etc have just disappeared leaving Tahmed as the lone torch bearer. I guess truth and reality hurts

giani_240#564:

My post to arjun was in response to his constant taunting me to be a Kuldip Nayar clone (even though I paid full fare to taxi drivers in Pakistan :-))

AND HOW MANY MILLIONS DID YOU KILL?

SO HOW DID YOU BUTCHER HINDUS AND WHY, TAHMED UNCLE?

WHY IS THAT NOT A CRIME IN YOUR SHAMELESS EYES?

YOU WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, IF NOT TO ME, THEN AT LEAST TO YOURSELF.

DM Sahib,

please let me preface by saying that I have a lot of respect for you and I have also chastised Arjun severely in the past for his stance. However, in this instance with the series of interacts with Tahmed, I have to humbly disagree with you and goad Arjun on. At least he is showing some gonads.

cheers

giani

cheers

Guruji that's what you have been saying since time immemorial (sorry for cliche) to Arjun here, and yet you keep responding to him.

So, what happened to Hindus of Pakistan? Make a nice plausible story of it (deNile is very far from where you were born, hahaha.)

Further to # 562 Tahmedji

And of course you are unable to say where is the gaali/galoch in my post, right?

laddu:

Do you know if any Hindu request to build a temple was refused by Pakistani govt.? Here is a suggestion: Raise donations for building a Swami Narayan temple in Lahore or Karachi, get some local Hindus (yes, there are still some, at least in Karachi!) to submit a proposal to their govt. for building the temple there and if the request is rejected, you would have a solid case to present.

tahmed32:

You would be more accurate if you called Modi Persona Non Grata in the US, as he has not been called a terrorist by any American agency.

arjun:

I have no shame in admitting that I have close affinity with Punjabis across the border and I feel quite at home in their company. But my stance towards Pakistan is based on realpolitik and not on any sentimental grounds. In fact, I would have fully supported the Indian govt. if it had followed jihadis across the border in hot pursuit or bombed out their training camps in POK. But Indians did not have the gonads to do that. On the other hand, your posts merely create/deepen hatred for India/Indias/Hindus among Pakistanis and I don't see how this hatred is of any benefit to India/Indians/Hindus.

giani: what part of #456 (the post I have been challenging your countrymen to read and either acknowledge the realities presented there, or else tell me what is wrong) sounds like obfuscation to you?

#553: subhasjoshi you wrote And pray tell me which part of my post is a gaali/galoch?

either you are trying to be cleverer than you are, or you are incapable of distinguishing between a discussion and namecalling. either way, i am not wasting more of my precious chowk time with you until you have fixed your problem.