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Science and the Islamic world --- The quest for rapprochement

Pervez Hoodbhoy August 2, 2007

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#49 Posted by tahmed32 on August 3, 2007 5:36:34 am
same old music - Hoodbhoy the enlightened man shoots down "mullah science" (which requires as much effort as shooting fish in a barrel), Indians come in to hyperventilate about how backward muslims are (as opposed to the enlightened horoscope driven, caste ridden hindus), and Pakistanis come in to squabble among themselves.

Everyone has lots of fun. :-)
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#50 Posted by Kamath on August 3, 2007 5:56:13 am
Zeemax:
You say,"..I haven't read this article yet..". Please don't read you as will not be able to understand the article. It seems your mouth and $#asshole are interchanged.You are biological freak
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#51 Posted by Kamath on August 3, 2007 6:00:23 am
Re: # 43 Ajeya:

If he were to write directly about the stupidity of so many in Islamic world, Jihad's wrath will visit him. He will be blown to bits. It is best he stick to the present format.

Kamath
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#52 Posted by Folio on August 3, 2007 6:09:57 am
#50 Posted by Kamath on August 3, 2007 5:56:13 am

I never thought u can write like this? (rolling eyes).
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#53 Posted by Dash_Dot on August 3, 2007 6:12:38 am
Re: # 50 Kamath, if they are interchanged then zeemax xannot be called a biological freak - since the path the food follows is still one-way. Dont matter which way up-down or down-up!

Now if you said they are both the same, then it would be different. And essentially you would be turning poor zeemax in ****-eater!
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#54 Posted by Chennai on August 3, 2007 7:24:38 am
Lets get some more Pakis in a knot....

PPP likely to sweep polls in Pakistan: Survey
Islamabad, Aug. 3 (PTI): Former Pakistan Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto's party is likely to sweep the general elections scheduled to be held later this year, according to an opinion poll.

About 58 per cent people in Sindh, 33 per cent in Balochistan, 23 per cent in Punjab and 25 per cent in North West Frontier Province (NWFP) wanted to see Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) in power, the poll conducted by the US-based International Republican Institute (IRI) said.

The survey, carried out between June 13 and July 3, showed that self-exiled Bhutto has overtaken President Pervez Musharraf in popularity ratings.

"The survey should serve as an eye-opener to those who advocate the idea of a non-representative government for Pakistan. The majority of Pakistanis are very clear in their minds about the future set up for their country.

"They want a democratic government and a strong Parliament to represent them, and work for their welfare," Sherry Rehman, Central Information Secretary of PPP, said while releasing part of the results of the poll.

After the results of the comprehensive survey, there should be no doubt in anyone's mind about the choices people want to make in Pakistan, she said in a statement here today.

"Despite suffering a decade of political mudslinging and a spate of attempts at breaking its back, the PPP remains the most popular party with the masses, enjoying a strong support base in the rural areas, (among) labourers and low-income households that comprises the majority of Pakistan," she said.

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#55 Posted by Urstruly on August 3, 2007 7:41:35 am
When comparison is made of 11 Noble prizes for the people from Muslim lands to 7 noble laureattes in India, the statistical science conclusively proves that Hindus are 36% stupider than Muslims.

This percentage just keeps getting higher and higher everytime I interact here.
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#56 Posted by Shah2 on August 3, 2007 7:47:19 am
#46 Jay p

Your Anti muslim stance is so obvious that you are like the group are unscientic bunch of people your self ignorent generaliser

"It is this underlying core of isl;amic temper that makes teh doctors suicide bombers in London, because at the core they cannot evaluate their own actions, the medical degree is only a skill, not a scientific knowledge for them"

You are ignoring or ignorent about of such incidents in hindu.. phd student in indiana and toranto going nuts ...and even jewish doctor who took to Ak 7 shooting in Jerusalem Al Aqsa mosque ...right now and through out & history muslim have ben defending themselves ...
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#57 Posted by Dash_Dot on August 3, 2007 7:52:07 am
Urstruly nothing to do with article : when was the last time you were considered an equal to the arab! there is a saying about the hierarchy in the arab world its like this

1. Yanks
2. Arabs
3. God/Allah
4. White Europeans
5. Japanese/Chinese (recently chinese)
6. Other semi-arabs
7. Persians
8. the rest of the world.

In this, you are but a part of the rest of the world for the great protectors of the ummah - no better than the hindu!

So coming to the article - do you not think that the title would have been better if it said

" why is pakistan lagging behind......

rather than islamic world.

Be pakistan centric. Forget the ummah - they dont care for and would not even serve dog pooh on a bad day. Just my opinion...you might beg to differ.
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#58 Posted by Dash_Dot on August 3, 2007 7:58:06 am
#57 actually it goes like this

1. yanks
2. Saudis (if they are saudis else another arab)
3. Other Arabs (if not saudi in 2 then saudi)
4.
5.
so on
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#59 Posted by zeemax on August 3, 2007 8:04:29 am
I don't think I'll read this article after all. It must be more of the same moronic stuff like the one he wrote in his previous article i.e.:

"What should the government do after the guns stop firing and the hostages are out, whether dead or alive? At least two immediate actions are needed."

Then he goes on to write some silly stuff the government must do.

The retard didn't even consider the possibility that the guns may NOT stop firing after the 'hostages' (?) are out, whether dead or alive.
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#60 Posted by zeemax on August 3, 2007 8:11:48 am
Mr. Urstruly, I just read your short story named 'The Whore' from sometime in 2004. You Sir, are without doubt the best short story writer on this site. When'll another story be published?

We need a break from the psychopathic psychiatrists, mathematicians, and physicist retards rampaging here like monkeys around a tub full of peanuts.
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#61 Posted by Urstruly on August 3, 2007 8:23:19 am
Re: # 60

Thank you Zeemax. I am currently working on a story which is based on some true events that happened in the backdrop of the Partition. All I can say is, that currently it is gestating.
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#62 Posted by zeemax on August 3, 2007 8:32:06 am
#61 Posted by Urstruly,

You wrote you're influenced by Bano Qudsia. But I think you have a touch of Guy De Maupassant as well. Is that correct?
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#63 Posted by Dash_Dot on August 3, 2007 8:36:40 am
Re: # 61

urstruly, this story is like gestation period of an african elephant (760 days)!
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#64 Posted by Urstruly on August 3, 2007 8:56:28 am
Re: # 62

God! I love Maupassant. I started reading him when I was probably 12. Read him over and over as I matured. He is master of putting feelings in simple things. In one of his short stories he describes a scene in a bakery during war years. Two young nuns are standing in the bakery wondering what to buy since they do not have enough money. They are hungry and confused. A young and handsome soldier walks in. The nuns couldn't take their eyes off of him because of his grace and youth. He walks right in front of them and grabs a fresh baked bread in his hands. His fingers just sink into the softness of the bread; and when he lets go of the bread, it slowly starts coming back to its normal shape. Soldier is totally oblivious of the fact that he had just rendered two nuns breathless. Maupassant says nothing more but the depth of this little observation speaks to reader at so many levels that it is incredible. Only Maupassant can do it.
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