Babar Mufti August 4, 2007
#81 Posted by bjkumar on August 7, 2007 4:50:17 pm
#76 Dawa, it is worth repeating...
YOU LOSE!
YOU LOSE!
YOU LOSE!
#82 Posted by bjkumar on August 7, 2007 4:55:54 pm
Dawa-ill-dil:
Lekar humm
Dawwaa ka fill
Firtey haiN
Mehfil, mehfil
Koi bataye, kidhar ko jayen?!
Zee ke sang – karnee hai tuttee!
#83 Posted by arjun2 on August 7, 2007 5:06:27 pm
congrats Pakis ....you're number 1...most unstable country...woo hoo..
Pakistan, Venezuela among most unstable: Eurasia Group
By Polya Lesova, MarketWatch
Last Update: 12:20 PM ET Aug 7, 2007
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Pakistan, Venezuela and Nigeria are among the most unstable emerging markets and rank the lowest on Eurasia Group's Global Political Risk Index, a political stability ranking for 24 emerging markets.
The top three most stable countries are Hungary, South Korea and Poland, according to the group's scores on the Global Political Risk Index for August. Tailored toward emerging markets investors, the index is produced by Eurasia Group and distributed in partnership with Citi Private Bank. See Emerging Markets Report.
The index is based on 20 indicators in four equally weighted categories: government, society, security and economy, which are combined into a single country score on a scale from zero to 100. The higher the score, the more stable the country.
Once again leading the ranking, Hungary has a score of 79, followed by South Korea with 76, Poland with 72, Bulgaria with 70 and Brazil with 69. Read more about Brazil.
Most unstable
Pakistan is the most unstable country with a composite score of 46. It is ruled by General Pervez Musharraf who came to power in a bloodless coup in 1999.
"President Pervez Musharraf's crackdown against extremists is unlikely to ease political pressures on his government," said analysts at the Eurasia Group. "The heavy hand displayed in the government's dealing with radicals occupying the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) and its renewed commitment to fight extremism, while improving Musharraf's standing with moderate secularists, triggered a backlash from religious conservatives."
Pakistan, Venezuela among most unstable: Eurasia Group
By Polya Lesova, MarketWatch
Last Update: 12:20 PM ET Aug 7, 2007
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Pakistan, Venezuela and Nigeria are among the most unstable emerging markets and rank the lowest on Eurasia Group's Global Political Risk Index, a political stability ranking for 24 emerging markets.
The top three most stable countries are Hungary, South Korea and Poland, according to the group's scores on the Global Political Risk Index for August. Tailored toward emerging markets investors, the index is produced by Eurasia Group and distributed in partnership with Citi Private Bank. See Emerging Markets Report.
The index is based on 20 indicators in four equally weighted categories: government, society, security and economy, which are combined into a single country score on a scale from zero to 100. The higher the score, the more stable the country.
Once again leading the ranking, Hungary has a score of 79, followed by South Korea with 76, Poland with 72, Bulgaria with 70 and Brazil with 69. Read more about Brazil.
Most unstable
Pakistan is the most unstable country with a composite score of 46. It is ruled by General Pervez Musharraf who came to power in a bloodless coup in 1999.
"President Pervez Musharraf's crackdown against extremists is unlikely to ease political pressures on his government," said analysts at the Eurasia Group. "The heavy hand displayed in the government's dealing with radicals occupying the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) and its renewed commitment to fight extremism, while improving Musharraf's standing with moderate secularists, triggered a backlash from religious conservatives."
#84 Posted by bjkumar on August 7, 2007 7:30:04 pm
Is there any truth to the rumor that mian Hamidm2 is out there hobnobbing between Mushy and BB - putting on massive frequent-flyer mileage between vilayat and Pakistan, looking to be annointed the next Wazeer-e-alam, hence not been able to address these here important interacts?!
#85 Posted by ferozk on August 7, 2007 8:01:24 pm
Benazir Bhutto would like nothing better than to be the prime minister and see the powers of the presidency limited. Musharraf would like an alliance with Benazir's party and still retain his presidential powers, i.e. a weak prime minister's office.
How these issues are accomodated, will decide the future of Pakistani politics and the rhetorical justifications for this act as an explanation to the people of Pakistan.
Ciao
How these issues are accomodated, will decide the future of Pakistani politics and the rhetorical justifications for this act as an explanation to the people of Pakistan.
Ciao
#86 Posted by bjkumar on August 7, 2007 8:33:03 pm
#85 FerozK
The past as a prelude to the future?!
Will this nightmare ever end?!!
#87 Posted by ahmedmadani on August 7, 2007 9:02:14 pm
Re: # 69
1971 will not be repeated for now there is atmomic reality of superior atomic bombs by us. ( all world experts have concluded pakistani design and yield in Kilotons is far higher than Indian. More bigger cities means more targets). If the stage comes due to spilitist encouragement from India general will make atomic attack and cripple india before split occurs.
Also soniya gandhi is not Indira Gandhi.
1971 will not be repeated for now there is atmomic reality of superior atomic bombs by us. ( all world experts have concluded pakistani design and yield in Kilotons is far higher than Indian. More bigger cities means more targets). If the stage comes due to spilitist encouragement from India general will make atomic attack and cripple india before split occurs.
Also soniya gandhi is not Indira Gandhi.
#88 Posted by ahmedmadani on August 7, 2007 9:06:15 pm
Re: # 71 Masadi I agree with you. Appointed people can not make democracy. You are right but you need to be moderaate in expressing.
I hope YLH can contribute to discussion as he knows big people in lahore politics and will be good to hear from him his feelings about what Punjabi heart land thinks
I hope YLH can contribute to discussion as he knows big people in lahore politics and will be good to hear from him his feelings about what Punjabi heart land thinks
#90 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 7, 2007 10:15:22 pm
1971 war issue ..i have already given the reasons
#91 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 7, 2007 11:19:46 pm
indian politics..is very stable...LOL
BJP..the poltcal wing of RSS..whose politics move around religious fanatics..and fasaadat..and balatkar..RathYatra of Adwani to shheed Babri Mosque....in Gugraat ..train drama of Sabar Mati Express..then kill 3000 innocent muslims..burn all the shops of muslims in Ahemedabad...
Kill the former MLA ...Ansari in Ahmed Abad from Congress..while he was calling help to everyone ...including Commissoner...but nobody came to his help...
The shameless beast ...ballar kar 7 7 yewars old girls in streets of Ahmedabad...in Cobra Nagar...etc...then burnt these innocent flowers alive....
The Best Backery case in which 18 people were burnt alive..anfd then giving threats to her only witness...and pressurizing her....
Operation Blue Star..when Sikhs were rightly demanding the seperate land for them..kill thousands...destroyed thier holy place...kill thier commander..Bhandrawala....
Nehru Dhoti wala...who promissed in UNO...that he will arrange refrendum in Kashmir..then his dhoti became wet..when half of the Kashmir was snatched by brave tribal and armed forces...then he ran to UNO for war ending....
Giving arms ..training ..and money to sepeartists...in Sindh..like MQM...Jai Sindh....
Giving arms and money to terrorist in Balochistan....Bugti..etc..fdrom 3 counsellate in Afghnaistan of Kandhar...Kabul...and Herat...
This is indian democracy that...6 or 7 provinces want seperation from it...including..
* Jhar Khand
* Mani Pur
* Tri Pura
* Assam
* Kahmir
* Chatees Garh
* West Bengal
This is indin democracy..who gain vote on muslim bloodshed...
have ever heard a single bloodshed in Sindh where hindus are in large number..or in punjab..where Christains are in large no...
this is shining india...which has given by zeemax..by few pics of Kolkatta..Mumbai etc..the dirtiest country on the face of earth....and still claim super power ...hahahaha...
super power to Bhutan..and Nepal...etc
BJP..the poltcal wing of RSS..whose politics move around religious fanatics..and fasaadat..and balatkar..RathYatra of Adwani to shheed Babri Mosque....in Gugraat ..train drama of Sabar Mati Express..then kill 3000 innocent muslims..burn all the shops of muslims in Ahemedabad...
Kill the former MLA ...Ansari in Ahmed Abad from Congress..while he was calling help to everyone ...including Commissoner...but nobody came to his help...
The shameless beast ...ballar kar 7 7 yewars old girls in streets of Ahmedabad...in Cobra Nagar...etc...then burnt these innocent flowers alive....
The Best Backery case in which 18 people were burnt alive..anfd then giving threats to her only witness...and pressurizing her....
Operation Blue Star..when Sikhs were rightly demanding the seperate land for them..kill thousands...destroyed thier holy place...kill thier commander..Bhandrawala....
Nehru Dhoti wala...who promissed in UNO...that he will arrange refrendum in Kashmir..then his dhoti became wet..when half of the Kashmir was snatched by brave tribal and armed forces...then he ran to UNO for war ending....
Giving arms ..training ..and money to sepeartists...in Sindh..like MQM...Jai Sindh....
Giving arms and money to terrorist in Balochistan....Bugti..etc..fdrom 3 counsellate in Afghnaistan of Kandhar...Kabul...and Herat...
This is indian democracy that...6 or 7 provinces want seperation from it...including..
* Jhar Khand
* Mani Pur
* Tri Pura
* Assam
* Kahmir
* Chatees Garh
* West Bengal
This is indin democracy..who gain vote on muslim bloodshed...
have ever heard a single bloodshed in Sindh where hindus are in large number..or in punjab..where Christains are in large no...
this is shining india...which has given by zeemax..by few pics of Kolkatta..Mumbai etc..the dirtiest country on the face of earth....and still claim super power ...hahahaha...
super power to Bhutan..and Nepal...etc
#92 Posted by ajeya on August 7, 2007 11:32:29 pm
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#93 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 7, 2007 11:36:44 pm
behave youeself ajeya...
i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???
shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...
have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????
and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all
i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???
shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...
have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????
and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all
#94 Posted by ajeya on August 7, 2007 11:48:10 pm
#93 Posted by dawa-i-dil
[behave youeself ajeya...]
After you...
[i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...]
Neither of them was a "religiou leader". Throw away the Paki textbooks.
[do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???]
Yes. One.
[shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...]
Telling the truth is degrading only in Islam.
[have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????]
You want me to play by exactly your rules?
[and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all]
Good. Then fact-based criticism about him should be perfectly acceptable by you. No?
[behave youeself ajeya...]
After you...
[i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...]
Neither of them was a "religiou leader". Throw away the Paki textbooks.
[do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???]
Yes. One.
[shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...]
Telling the truth is degrading only in Islam.
[have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????]
You want me to play by exactly your rules?
[and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all]
Good. Then fact-based criticism about him should be perfectly acceptable by you. No?
#95 Posted by rf786 on August 7, 2007 11:54:25 pm
Re: # 87
Nothing can save a country when its people do not wish to live with each other. We have already lost half of the country in 1971 and have done little to keep the rest together. Nuclear capability had its shortterm positive impact but has since lost its effect on nation building. Post 9/11 world has made Pak nukes more of a liability, weapons of death for others are being protected as if though our life depended on it.
Pakistan is on a self-destruct mode and we have nobody to blame but ourselves.
Nothing can save a country when its people do not wish to live with each other. We have already lost half of the country in 1971 and have done little to keep the rest together. Nuclear capability had its shortterm positive impact but has since lost its effect on nation building. Post 9/11 world has made Pak nukes more of a liability, weapons of death for others are being protected as if though our life depended on it.
Pakistan is on a self-destruct mode and we have nobody to blame but ourselves.
#96 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 8, 2007 12:09:40 am
Yaar 1971 was a different scenario..1000 miles away ..2 part ..totally different geography..language..customs ...and rituals...what else was between us except islam....
Pakistan is not in such a bad condition as you are saying...
Pakistan is not in such a bad condition as you are saying...
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