The New Bedfellows

It was only two days ago that I wrote this on this thread #44 HP and we are beginning to see the end game in Pakistan.

“We are entering the Danse Macabre stage of the game in Pakistan. La Danse Macabre has all the characters: the king, the commanders, the slaves and a pretty woman.

When the dance of death starts many unlikely characters join together. That is what is happening in Pakistan. Musharaf is dancing his way to death (metaphor) and he will take many down with him.”

I spoke to couple of friends in Pakistan and they have reported that army has already been stationed on many Govt buildings and telephone exchanges in Isloo and pindi and all officers were asked to report for duty at 4 AM and they are still on duty.
I think this appears to be more than emergency, perhaps Martial Law.

I would like to add my nickel and a very important nickel about the reports of Anti-American sloganeering from the treasury benches. I kind of expected this but held back to write about it until I get full confirmation.

Nationalism is the last refuge of the scoundrels and we are going to see that so that Musharaf can claim public support on this issue. There is no doubt that there is a strong anti-American current in Pakistan but Musharaf is not the one who can tap those sentiments. All Pakistanis know how much anti-American the Pak army and is and Musharaf’s anti-Americanism is probably of the size of a mustard seed.

All dictators and even one PM claimed that US was responsible for their downfall. It is true but why they did not see that when they reached the peak of the power with the US help.

There is strong possibility that US was behind Zia’s murder and it is very much possible as there was no public accounting for his death. Richard Clark in his book claimed that the KGB was behind it. This does not appear to be correct as Pakistani Generals would have loved to investigate the Zia murder, if the perpetrator was the KGB.

Currently, we are looking at a very dramatic situation. Musharaf went to Karachi with Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen, Ehasan and kept him on his side all the time he was in Karachi. I doubt that Musharaf would have taken the risk to take a plane to go Afghanistan considering that the plane was going to flyover NWFP and the tribal areas.

Here is something I posted on another forum.
On August 4, 2007 - 7:28pm HP said:

Musharaf does not have much political support in Pakistan and that’s why he is looking more towards Benazir, a moderate Pakistani politician, to bail him out. It is not easy for Benazir when we consider that general population is completely disgusted with Musharaf and his policies. She is risking her popularity and the wrath of the liberal and moderate segments of the population by initiating talks with him.

By destabilizing Musharaf, the Bush admin has taken a path that most diplomats would tread on gingerly. I hope the Bush admin is watching the situation very carefully and keeping tabs on the day to day changing situation. This may just be wishful thinking on my part considering the track record of the Bush admin.

#115 Posted by Urstruly

[One down; ]

One down, eh? Wasn't that easy?

Have you prostated today?

Re: # 132

HH

Mush is running out of options, under attack domestically and externally he has decided to go in his bunker, that may prove to be another German bunker or Saddam pothole. Our judiciary was ranked the third most corrupt institution right behind Police and customs, in all probability not much has changed and the esteemed judges will rollover like obedient pets.

Worse case scenario is looking at a fractured Pakistan which will be bad news for the region in the short to medium term but may prove to be the perfect elixir for this region.

Re: # 132

LOL...you dont know MUSHY CANNOT dismiss any judge of SC....

wghat the hell SC 13 judges decided after 2 months case hearing of CJ that Executice CANNOT any judge of SC...

ballo jee...dont doze...

#128 Posted by dawa-i-dil

SC will kick out this Emergency....inshallah

The first thing Mushy will do after imposing Emergency is dismiss the SC judges. Are you so dumb that you cannot see it?

One more thing. People in Pakistan are so disgusted with the army's antics that if Martial Law or the emergency is declared, we might see people spontaneously come out on the streets and vocally resist it.
Musharaf is paving the way for another army General. He is the set up guy and he should not be given any quarter now.

power in pakistan must be the ultimate aphrodisiac......the ultimate high.......no one is willing to leave it, once they get the taste of it.....

....benazir has lost a father and two brothers.....she has been pm twice, and has been exiled for a decade.....yet she still wants to come back and become the pm again....to the point, that she is not even willing to have anyone else from her party become the pm......

......musharraf has been coas for ten years and president for eight......he has been the center of the world's attention, for six years......he has been wined and dined everywhere.....

.......both these individuals have gone far beyond their personal capabilities.....benazir has never had a job.....there is nothing extraordinary about her, other than her last name......musharraf rose up through a mediocre bureacracy to become the head of the army....there is nothing extraordinary in his career, either......neither of them are abdus salam, or imran khan, or edhi, or agha hasan abdis etc. of their professions......i doubt either could survive and compete in the international marketplace, on their individual skills......

yet they are willing to hold the whole nation hostage, just to gain personal power, again and again......i suppose, in the end, it is the nation's fault also, in that it agrees to be held hostage.......

pakistan has far too many people who fight their political battles from the comforts of their expat keyboards and their domestic living rooms.......and far few with enough conviction to actually do something about it.......

there are individuals on this website alone, who are apparently:

- declaring jihad wihin pakistan
- allowed access to fbi and cia, before even bush does
- are advising all the top politicians of pakistan
- etc.

they are doing all this, without even having to set foot in pakistan, or participate in any political activity!!.......we are, thus, a defeated nation of individuals who can talk the talk, but are too scared to walk the walk.....

Re: # 136

HH

I agree with you, if required Mush will simply dismiss the entire bench.

As for the honorable Chaudhry CJ, well he is the same Chaudhry who endorsed Mush takeover and continuation thus the reward of becoming CJP. The recent standoff against Mushy was led by Lawyers not the CJ who was a mere spectator. Had the honorable CJ any ethics or principles he wud have resigned from his position once the decision was made in his favor cause his actions had compromised his neutrality as CJP. But, then again he is no saint nor any different from the rest.

#135 by rf786

Re: the judiciary, Mushy has two options. If as you say the judges are corrupt and nothing has changed since the Iftikhar Chaudhary episode, then Mushy has nothing to worry about. The judges will endorse the Emergency, just as they did with his PCO. If OTOH, the judiciary has been emboldened by the CJ episode and decide to oppose Emergency, Mushy can just sack them all at one go, under the provisions of the Emergency. In both cases, he's likely to emerge the winner.

But then, even Zia was invincible, until nature (or was it man?) decided to do him in.

BREAKING NEWS....


no Emergency all....
Ch shujaat ...and Mushahid Hussain syed categorically denied ANY chance of Emergency....

as Mushahid said that ..these are the same fool people who once gave the foolish advice of CJ sacking to Mushy...

Mushy dar giya hai..SC sai or people's movement sai..hahahaha

#137 by dawa-i-dil

LOL...you dont know MUSHY CANNOT dismiss any judge of SC....

And you don't know Dawa beta that Mushy will do what pleases him most...do you think a DICTATOR will take your permission before he does something?

LOL...have you not sen millions of people when they came on the street when he dismissed CJ ...
man ..he cannot dismiss any SC judge...and if he will ever try to attempt that...he will be kicked out of this country forever ..believe me...

#140 by dawa-i-dil

Yaar if that happens, it'd be a good thing. But unfortunately, dictators seldom realize how much people hate them. They have an inflated sense of their self-importance.

he will soon realize it ...

Re: # 143


Supreme Court hears Nawaz Sharif’s exile appeal ISLAMABAD, Aug 9 (AFP) Pakistan's Supreme Court Thursday began deliberating an application by former prime minister Nawaz Sharif to have his exile overturned and be permitted to return to the country. The application was heard by Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry. “It is Nawaz Sharif's unconditional and unequivocal right to return to the country, which cannot be either curtailed or denied,” his lawyer Fakharuddin Ibrahim told the court. Returning to Pakistan was a “fundamental right,” Ibrahim said, adding that Sharif's desire to come home was “linked with his concerns for the future of democracy in the country.” ”We are concerned with the future of parliamentary democracy in the country, which cannot be undone by a gentleman in uniform,” Ibrahim said.(Posted @ 15:05 PST)