The New Bedfellows

#65 anil: I think much depends on how BB reacts to Musharraf's announcement today that he will run for "re-elections" (i.e. by playing making a mockery of the election process as before) and stay in uniform. If she re-joins other political parties from whom she broke ranks by having separate talks with Musharraf, then perhaps she will have a chance. If she does not, I think the PPP could easily end up splintering.

That is my uneducated guess. All one can say for sure at this time is: August is going to be a hot month that may well determine the shape of Pakistan's political structure for the next few years.

masadi: you write Tahmed is an unconditional worshipper and peon of the West

I am demolished. You have ruined my reputation. :-(

Why you are sent to fetch samosa and chai for the staff room of government college, pind dadan khan, why dont you get one for me too to cheer me up? :-)

#76 Dawa-ill-dil

Dawa, pehley apni dawa kar! Uske baad India ko updesh dena!

Guys like you are such ignoramuses that one can only pity you.

You lost Bangladesh!

If you do not mend your ways, you may lose more! (Who would have believed that ten years ago?!) There is a REAL danger of that at this time. The NWFP/easern side divide is already too stark.

Learn to live together - like the people of India have tried more or less successfully!

Your jihadi crappshoot's time is up!

It came out a cropper!

YOU LOSE!

#76 Dawa, it is worth repeating...

YOU LOSE!

YOU LOSE!

YOU LOSE!

Dawa-ill-dil:

Lekar humm
Dawwaa ka fill
Firtey haiN
Mehfil, mehfil
Koi bataye, kidhar ko jayen?!
Zee ke sang – karnee hai tuttee!

congrats Pakis ....you're number 1...most unstable country...woo hoo..

Pakistan, Venezuela among most unstable: Eurasia Group
By Polya Lesova, MarketWatch
Last Update: 12:20 PM ET Aug 7, 2007

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Pakistan, Venezuela and Nigeria are among the most unstable emerging markets and rank the lowest on Eurasia Group's Global Political Risk Index, a political stability ranking for 24 emerging markets.
The top three most stable countries are Hungary, South Korea and Poland, according to the group's scores on the Global Political Risk Index for August. Tailored toward emerging markets investors, the index is produced by Eurasia Group and distributed in partnership with Citi Private Bank. See Emerging Markets Report.
The index is based on 20 indicators in four equally weighted categories: government, society, security and economy, which are combined into a single country score on a scale from zero to 100. The higher the score, the more stable the country.
Once again leading the ranking, Hungary has a score of 79, followed by South Korea with 76, Poland with 72, Bulgaria with 70 and Brazil with 69. Read more about Brazil.

Most unstable
Pakistan is the most unstable country with a composite score of 46. It is ruled by General Pervez Musharraf who came to power in a bloodless coup in 1999.
"President Pervez Musharraf's crackdown against extremists is unlikely to ease political pressures on his government," said analysts at the Eurasia Group. "The heavy hand displayed in the government's dealing with radicals occupying the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) and its renewed commitment to fight extremism, while improving Musharraf's standing with moderate secularists, triggered a backlash from religious conservatives."

Is there any truth to the rumor that mian Hamidm2 is out there hobnobbing between Mushy and BB - putting on massive frequent-flyer mileage between vilayat and Pakistan, looking to be annointed the next Wazeer-e-alam, hence not been able to address these here important interacts?!

Benazir Bhutto would like nothing better than to be the prime minister and see the powers of the presidency limited. Musharraf would like an alliance with Benazir's party and still retain his presidential powers, i.e. a weak prime minister's office.

How these issues are accomodated, will decide the future of Pakistani politics and the rhetorical justifications for this act as an explanation to the people of Pakistan.

Ciao

Re: # 86

The nightmare never ends; one has to learn to live with it.

Pakistani politics have seen this tug of war between a strong Prime Minister's office and a strong presidency since 1947. I have been raked over the coals, by an old Chowkwallah and a good friend, for suggesting this but I believe that Jinnah's tenure as the Governor-General of Pakistan and the importance of that office in constrast to a weakened prime minsterial office, was responsible for the diminishing of the powers belonging to the prime minister's office.

Since that day, Pakistan has relived the struggle of political power between a strong presidency and a prime minister's office that would like to increase its importance. The word "increase" is used in the sense that a prime minister's office never had power and thus, it cannot "regain" it but only increase/add to its limited powers.

The point of contention is that Pakistan, due to these power struggles, has not been clearly able to spell out, whether it is a parliamentary form of government or a presidential form of government. If Pakistan wants to be a parliamentary form of government, then the powers of the presidency will have to be clipped and the Constitution of Pakistan amended because the manner in which it has been amended in the past and the powers it gives the president, suggests that it supports/favors a presidential style of government.

The army in Pakistan has always favored a presidential style of power and the civilians have always supported a parliamentary government, with a strong prime minister's office. Therefore, the politics in Pakistan have evolved into a mixture of both and since a presidential and a prime ministerial forms of goverance are different and require different sorts of institutional support, Pakistani institutions have been weakened, as a result of this power struggle, as they were made to support two conflicting political ideas; specially, when those ideas were involved in a zero-sum game with one another.

The solution, and this is open to debate, is that in the present context of Pakistan, a presidential or a prime ministerial system of government will only work after there is a national reconcilation to decide what the nation wants and then to forge that system. However, it will require a national consensus and therefore, it makes a very strong case for the need of a national reconcilation in Pakistani politics in the manner of the national consensus that created the Constitution of 1973.

Ciao

#85 FerozK

The past as a prelude to the future?!

Will this nightmare ever end?!!

LOL

1971 war issue ..i have already given the reasons

indian politics..is very stable...LOL

BJP..the poltcal wing of RSS..whose politics move around religious fanatics..and fasaadat..and balatkar..RathYatra of Adwani to shheed Babri Mosque....in Gugraat ..train drama of Sabar Mati Express..then kill 3000 innocent muslims..burn all the shops of muslims in Ahemedabad...

Kill the former MLA ...Ansari in Ahmed Abad from Congress..while he was calling help to everyone ...including Commissoner...but nobody came to his help...

The shameless beast ...ballar kar 7 7 yewars old girls in streets of Ahmedabad...in Cobra Nagar...etc...then burnt these innocent flowers alive....

The Best Backery case in which 18 people were burnt alive..anfd then giving threats to her only witness...and pressurizing her....

Operation Blue Star..when Sikhs were rightly demanding the seperate land for them..kill thousands...destroyed thier holy place...kill thier commander..Bhandrawala....

Nehru Dhoti wala...who promissed in UNO...that he will arrange refrendum in Kashmir..then his dhoti became wet..when half of the Kashmir was snatched by brave tribal and armed forces...then he ran to UNO for war ending....

Giving arms ..training ..and money to sepeartists...in Sindh..like MQM...Jai Sindh....

Giving arms and money to terrorist in Balochistan....Bugti..etc..fdrom 3 counsellate in Afghnaistan of Kandhar...Kabul...and Herat...

This is indian democracy that...6 or 7 provinces want seperation from it...including..

* Jhar Khand
* Mani Pur
* Tri Pura
* Assam
* Kahmir
* Chatees Garh
* West Bengal


This is indin democracy..who gain vote on muslim bloodshed...


have ever heard a single bloodshed in Sindh where hindus are in large number..or in punjab..where Christains are in large no...

this is shining india...which has given by zeemax..by few pics of Kolkatta..Mumbai etc..the dirtiest country on the face of earth....and still claim super power ...hahahaha...

super power to Bhutan..and Nepal...etc

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behave youeself ajeya...

i have never stepped onto your religious leaders like Arjun..Karishna....etc ...do you know..how many wivesof Karishna ???

shame on you ...to degrade our prophet(pbuh)...

have i ever said a single word to your religious leaders ????

and who says that we worship Muhammad(pbuh)...we worship none but Allah Almighty..thats all

Re: # 94

pakistani textbooks are not filled with hindu relgious personalities..not at all..neither we wnt to quote that into our text books..our text books are filled with Ali..Umar..Ibne Waleed.. Bilal...etc etc..


I have heard that he has 14,000 wives...


i have always said that youre all political leaders are imams of makkars..is there anything false ?????

and do you know the meaning of rapist....ignorant fool...

he married them ...read history before posting OK