Ras Siddiqui August 6, 2007
#64 Posted by Ranjit on August 11, 2007 12:55:06 am
Dawa-i-dil,
I am sure that at your home you eat Central Asian food, watch Iranian movies, listen to Arabic music and speak Persian. Right? Or is it the other way round? Please dont tell me that you eat tandoori chicken, watch Bollywood movies, listen to Mohd. Rafi and speak in Hindi (calling it Urdu). Tsk Tsk!!
I am sure that at your home you eat Central Asian food, watch Iranian movies, listen to Arabic music and speak Persian. Right? Or is it the other way round? Please dont tell me that you eat tandoori chicken, watch Bollywood movies, listen to Mohd. Rafi and speak in Hindi (calling it Urdu). Tsk Tsk!!
#65 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 12:55:24 am
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#66 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 12:57:45 am
Our name sare 90 % turkish ..irani ..and arabic....
as urdu = persian + Arabic + Turkish(90%)
what we have to do with hindus and sikhs...
our colours ..are totally different...
we love irani and afghani and arbic ..means our borders are towards west rather than east...
as urdu = persian + Arabic + Turkish(90%)
what we have to do with hindus and sikhs...
our colours ..are totally different...
we love irani and afghani and arbic ..means our borders are towards west rather than east...
#67 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 12:59:37 am
for 800n years ..the official language of Indo pak was Persian..
all bulidings of old styles in india have irani touch ...and builders were mostly from iran....
we have different traditions..not a 1% matching with hindus...
why we should bother about india..rther we cling towards iran..central asia...and afghanistan ..and arb cultures...
all bulidings of old styles in india have irani touch ...and builders were mostly from iran....
we have different traditions..not a 1% matching with hindus...
why we should bother about india..rther we cling towards iran..central asia...and afghanistan ..and arb cultures...
#68 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 1:01:57 am
i mean to say..there is nothing common between us...
they spek urdu but call it hindi..
why hindus not speak sansikrit..thier original language...
i dont care about bollywood mpovies..KANJ** movies..
rafi was a muslim...not hindu....
man ..we are totally different....
1000 intermixing if gives some duplictions between hindus and muslims ..thats not means ..we are same...OK
they spek urdu but call it hindi..
why hindus not speak sansikrit..thier original language...
i dont care about bollywood mpovies..KANJ** movies..
rafi was a muslim...not hindu....
man ..we are totally different....
1000 intermixing if gives some duplictions between hindus and muslims ..thats not means ..we are same...OK
#69 Posted by Ranjit on August 11, 2007 1:02:34 am
Re:dawa-i-mental
"we love irani and afghani and arbic ..means our borders are towards west rather than east..."
You may love them but they hate you. The arabs, iranians and central asians treat you like third class people. In fact they prefer to hire Indians for their jobs due to difference in education standards. They dont even want to do trade or business with you, let alone accept you. The Saudis will give you some aid to open madrassahs. Other than that, most islamic countries keep you at an arm's length and have better relations with india.
"we love irani and afghani and arbic ..means our borders are towards west rather than east..."
You may love them but they hate you. The arabs, iranians and central asians treat you like third class people. In fact they prefer to hire Indians for their jobs due to difference in education standards. They dont even want to do trade or business with you, let alone accept you. The Saudis will give you some aid to open madrassahs. Other than that, most islamic countries keep you at an arm's length and have better relations with india.
#70 Posted by HP on August 11, 2007 1:03:04 am
#59 Posted by Ranjit
"Muslim provinces had muslim local administration, hindu provinces had hindu local administration."
Not true and If you are a Sindhi like you claim to be, I would recommend you talk to your parents. The political leadership in Muslim majority provinces was Muslims and there is no doubt about it but administration is something else. Administration in Pre-partition Sindh was 90% Hindu. same was the case with Bengal.
Now I am not here to blame Sindhi Hindus or the Bengali Hindus. I know most of the Sindhi Hindu were not biased but they guarded their preeminent position in the administration.
I quoted a letter from AK Brohi. I don't agree with what he did but he was a brilliant lawyer and there has never been a better Hindu Lawyer from Sindh. ( Jethmalani could be an exception).
If a person of Brohi's caliber senses the bias in hiring in a majority Muslim province, then I can be reasonably sure that it was less than subtle in Hindu Majority provinces such as UP etc.
"Muslim provinces had muslim local administration, hindu provinces had hindu local administration."
Not true and If you are a Sindhi like you claim to be, I would recommend you talk to your parents. The political leadership in Muslim majority provinces was Muslims and there is no doubt about it but administration is something else. Administration in Pre-partition Sindh was 90% Hindu. same was the case with Bengal.
Now I am not here to blame Sindhi Hindus or the Bengali Hindus. I know most of the Sindhi Hindu were not biased but they guarded their preeminent position in the administration.
I quoted a letter from AK Brohi. I don't agree with what he did but he was a brilliant lawyer and there has never been a better Hindu Lawyer from Sindh. ( Jethmalani could be an exception).
If a person of Brohi's caliber senses the bias in hiring in a majority Muslim province, then I can be reasonably sure that it was less than subtle in Hindu Majority provinces such as UP etc.
#71 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 1:04:06 am
We are different ....
look a brahimin..still not touch a muslim past 20 50 years ago...as its become Bharshit ..means impure ..if he touch ny muslim...
there were seperate drinking coolers of hindu paani and muslim paani..before 1947 at railways stations...
muslims ould enter a " Rasoi" means kitchen of a hindu..as it becomes impure....
LOL..still some foolish say we are same...
look a brahimin..still not touch a muslim past 20 50 years ago...as its become Bharshit ..means impure ..if he touch ny muslim...
there were seperate drinking coolers of hindu paani and muslim paani..before 1947 at railways stations...
muslims ould enter a " Rasoi" means kitchen of a hindu..as it becomes impure....
LOL..still some foolish say we are same...
#72 Posted by ajeya on August 11, 2007 1:05:06 am
#67 dawa-i-dil
Hey dawa, do you drive a taxi cab in New York?
Hey dawa, do you drive a taxi cab in New York?
#73 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 1:05:17 am
Re: # 69
thats becuase arbs by nature some proudy....
they even treat you indians as 3rd class in gulf..dont tell me stories...
thats becuase arbs by nature some proudy....
they even treat you indians as 3rd class in gulf..dont tell me stories...
#74 Posted by borivili_express on August 11, 2007 1:05:50 am
IB you are wrong i googled and found found two muslim Lt Gens,Zaki and Sami, there might even be more. Also u are wrong on migration most UP migrants went by Train over land and many died or where abducted. considering you are wrong on two accounts i doubt the rest of your narrative.
I read a good book once on creation of muslim and hindu identities in british india and the partition called" Self and Identity" I recomend it to you.
I read a good book once on creation of muslim and hindu identities in british india and the partition called" Self and Identity" I recomend it to you.
#75 Posted by ajeya on August 11, 2007 1:06:54 am
#70 Posted by HP
[If a person of Brohi's caliber senses the bias in hiring in a majority Muslim province, then I can be reasonably sure that it was less than subtle in Hindu Majority provinces such as UP etc.]
Let's suppose that is true.
So is that better or worse that 800 years of discrimination in the workplaces by the Muslims against Hindus?
[If a person of Brohi's caliber senses the bias in hiring in a majority Muslim province, then I can be reasonably sure that it was less than subtle in Hindu Majority provinces such as UP etc.]
Let's suppose that is true.
So is that better or worse that 800 years of discrimination in the workplaces by the Muslims against Hindus?
#76 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 1:07:50 am
I mean that hindus are narow minded..and biased towards others...
they used to call muslims as "Maleech" means napak..impure
we have nothing common....
we have irani touch in our women beauty..
our names are mostly turkish and arabic...
our food is meat ..as in arab and iran...
our cultural roots lie in western borders..not in india..or eastern borders...
they used to call muslims as "Maleech" means napak..impure
we have nothing common....
we have irani touch in our women beauty..
our names are mostly turkish and arabic...
our food is meat ..as in arab and iran...
our cultural roots lie in western borders..not in india..or eastern borders...
#77 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 1:09:55 am
man ..we are totally different ..100% different...
tahst hy we seperated in 1947....as we experienced the poson in 1937 congress provincial governments...
muslims girls were taught lessons of Devdasia...those angels which never take niqaabs taught of dancing and Thumkha Lgana shmelessly..as culture of india...shameless culture...
tahst hy we seperated in 1947....as we experienced the poson in 1937 congress provincial governments...
muslims girls were taught lessons of Devdasia...those angels which never take niqaabs taught of dancing and Thumkha Lgana shmelessly..as culture of india...shameless culture...
#78 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 1:11:28 am
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#79 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 11, 2007 1:13:23 am
mulims children wre suppressed to worship the idol of Gndhi in 1937...in bihaar province ...and place like disttrict Jhunjiana....
there were co education classes from primary..as shameless culture of inda demanded...
muslims were suppressed to sing Bandai Mtram..a song sull of Shirk..and dirty account of some kali maat...chee ..chee..chee
there were co education classes from primary..as shameless culture of inda demanded...
muslims were suppressed to sing Bandai Mtram..a song sull of Shirk..and dirty account of some kali maat...chee ..chee..chee
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