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Making a new Future: Peace Dividends for India and Pakistan

dawood mamoon August 13, 2007

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#12 Posted by bjkumar on August 18, 2007 5:32:06 am

#10 Manto

Why should that bother any Pakistani?! Name-calling is a Pakistani specialty!

Name-calling and crying! It is little wonder that after so much name-calling and crying any time can actually be found for such mundane matters like education and economic growth!

Go read ZAB's speech from 1971 for an example of "we don't get no respect, our hearts are broken, the Indians are whipping our ass and the world is laughing while I cry!"

Guess what - Pakistan hailed that whining diatribe as "historic"!

Remember the last words in that speech?! If you do not, let me help!

"I am leaving, Mr. Secretary. I am leaving!"

Big deal, who gives a hoot if ZAB took his butt out of the UN?!

It was a small country back then - and still is!

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#11 Posted by Cobra on August 18, 2007 5:16:55 am
Dawa , don't bhayya me. I'm not your brother.
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#10 Posted by MantoLives on August 18, 2007 5:12:27 am

Pakistanis are morbidly afraid of typing in "u" instead of "i" at the end of Gandhi's name.

You wouldn't want that would you BJKumar?
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#9 Posted by arjun2 on August 18, 2007 5:10:17 am

Shakti (Hindu Power)


who is this idiot author?
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#8 Posted by bjkumar on August 18, 2007 5:06:48 am
Why do some Pakistanis have such a tough time spelling Gandhiji’s name?! Why should anybody believe anything else this writer writes – he can not get even the name right! But Gandhiji has good company – this author could not get to spell even the Buddha’s name right!

On the issue of “Hindustan”, the Pakistani media (till recently) made a conscious effort to address India not as “India” but as “Hindustan” – probably another futile attempt to make sense of the creation of Pakistan. If Pakistan were more comfortable with itself, it would not need to do such gimmics.

For Pakistan, the dispute on Kashmir does not appear to be about land – had it been so, that country would not have gifted away one third of Kashmir to China. It appears to be about reinforcing Pakistan’s “distinctness” from India – however artificially made!

Kashmir does not appear to be the “root cause” of the dispute between India and Pakistan – Pakistan’s repeated attempts to justify itself perhaps are! Solve the Kashmir issue tomorrow and come day after tomorrow, the “root cause” will still remain – or will get reinvented.

Pakistan’s optimum future lies in the exercise of pure common sense – by acting its size. Nukes or no nukes, it is a small country and every time it looses the focus of the superpowers – must end up in a devalued position. That is the way of nature!

I do not see how economic enrichment can get rid of fundamentalism in that country – at least how it can do so in the short to intermediate run. The Middle East example stares us too starkly in face for that. In fact, Pakistan itself has a well-established track record of attacking India every time it feels more “secure”. Its economic prosperity of 1960’s gave us Operation Gibraltar. Its acquisition of the nukes gave us the Kargil adventure. Who knows what the next sense of “economic well-being” will bring?!

Unfortunately, it is not the economy – it is the mindset! That is where the effort needs to be invested. I do not see how that can take place if the country still keeps acting wishy-washy on its past sordid acts!

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#7 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 18, 2007 4:57:17 am
Re: # 5 bhayya ..60 saal mai super power aik Azad Kashmir to lai nahee saka...hehehe
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#6 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 18, 2007 4:56:11 am
Re: # 3 boy friend...na na ...mama dantai gee...hehehe
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#5 Posted by Cobra on August 18, 2007 4:20:53 am
There's a saying in my part of the country. G**d mey dum nahi aur hum kisise kum nahin. Agar dum hai to Kashmir leke dikhao.
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#4 Posted by jayp on August 18, 2007 4:10:36 am
Dawood Mian,

There is no peace dividend for India. A prosperous pakistan in the current political situation is a threat to the world. The jihadis of today in pakistan are funded by the people of pakistan and more income for them will only add to the jihadic activities.

It is in the interest of India and the world to keep pakistan at teh subsistance level and prevent its progress.

An approach like north korea to dismantle the bomb, or like Libiya are the only options that can give any kind of peace dividend to pakistan.

The islamic bomb has become the ball and chain on pakistans economic progress. This is further compoinded by the pakistanis and their politicians by keep repeating that it has a bomb, which no other country including india never does.

The insistance of pakistan to claim the islamic bomb is genuine problem and as one keeps talking about it creates teh impression that it is uppermost in pak minds and is actively using it. FR Khan activity is a symptom of thsi where the bomb was used to further jihadic ideas.
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#3 Posted by Ranjit on August 18, 2007 2:33:15 am
Dawa dil, why do you keep nagging Indians all the time? Go get a boyfriend and get laid.
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#2 Posted by dawa-i-dil on August 18, 2007 12:49:45 am
why you all indians dont tell the sarkar tyhat why it spend 68% on Defence,,,,,

why this money is not for poor people of india....


due to your 68% ..pakistan also have to spend a lot of on Defence...

why you all indians are mad ..on accumulating arms....

and for whom....

why you not resist against your Warriors government...

why are they crazy ..in destroying others...


solution is very simple....
stop accumulating arms..and weapons ..in india...
use this money for poor people of india...

i dont know why indians are in mental disorder of spending too much on defence


i mean to say.....india cannot reach the foot level of China

regarding sri Lanka..Bhutan..Nepal..and Bangla Desh etc...they are just small country ..so no comparison with India...

and regarding pakistan..again i say....

Pakistan is a nuclear missile power....

are indians are collecting arms against pakistan....






I mean to say....


you can give a threat as a "super power " to bangla desh bhutan





but do you think that by collecting arms....

you can give a threat to pakistan
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#1 Posted by okhla99 on August 18, 2007 12:42:36 am
Long rambling narrative completely failing to :

1. highlight current problems faced by Pakistan.
2. Possible solutions.
3. Future course of action.

Utter Waste of Chowk Space.
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