Jinnah and the Islamic State – Setting the Record Straight

stuka,

Here is another word you can add to your collection of pompous euphemisms useful for politicians of sectarian and anti-individualistic bent: consociationalism.

Re: # 64 B.Express think about general, BB what they are doing to get certificate from USA and they feel that license for ruling country same thing in India. I have written two notes on book by Masadi " life and death under usa domination" but they sensored it. It will prudent for you to study this book then you can write critic mr. Masadi.Please read book to understand who is god father of india and pakistan its usa.

kaal

Are you calling J-man a communalist?

Re: # 63 Dear Masadi... It is good to hear from you something different than repeating western imperialistic newspapers quoted by local elites. I agree with you lots of time but will request you to moderate your writing, not asking for massaging of facts so the your thinking about topic in not lost in rhetoric. I always found many things to think and know after reading part of book of yours "IN THE SHADOW OF EMPIRE" life and death under usa domination. Then I wrote a little letter ( 2 times) in appreciation of that. Granted I am not very good in writing and not logical like others.And both came on computer for few minutes and was taken off immediately. It is policy to "extinguish you ideas" I do not now for I do not believe in miracle. But whenever I wrote disagreeing with you it was always accepted. Something fishi or sensor or what ?
As law of country allows us to thin k freely they should publish but it is destroyed if I wrote to second your opinion.
Any opinion about something is going , sensor type think. You did write to whip mental retaed about about nuclear attack.
Also you have never said what you think about mr. Gandhi ? You agree with writings of YLH also known as Mr.Manto. Was Gandhi elite and in league with British Imperial powers? I will like to know your thoughts about that. Once I started thinking in terms of our politicains on your line of thinking I do not find any difference between NS, General and BB. All above just looking for american intensions and just trying to please his or her master and exploiting masses. Most elitist thing in india and Pakistani constitution is barring person who is not college graduate. Nothing can come near this in elist snobbery.
Kindly contribute towards different topics. I may not agree with some times but your thinking simulates thinking in my mind . Best thing about you you are not obsessed with personality like mR Gandhi and jinnah. Both have been dead long time. Some time I like you thinking as you are not obssed with some historical people or papers and quote all time. You are eagle flying without map or guidence. I kind of feel like listening to Bada Khayal of Mr.K.G Komkali, no gharana , no beaten path not standard way of aaroh, fresh path with joy of notes one after, some times rising pitch of notes at next second diving down like eagle.. Please contribute and do not pay attention to infant retaerds. Your comments have been very didectic atleast to me.

HAHA..OH OK..

abey kya jawab, stuka? It's called using a similar sounding word when for whatever strange reason not wanting to use the correct word - communalist, in this case.

Communalist is a very bad word, hai na?

Abey koi mera jawab dey de?

"Is it going to be an Islamic government? Is it not begging the question? Is it not like passing a vote of censure on every Leauger? The constitution of Pakistan shall be what the people of Pakistan decide."

That says it. If Jinnah understood the meaning of above then it must be an achievemnt for a senile person. The people of Pakistan did decide. And they are still deciding.

Borivilli_Express

Are you 4 real man? Allah swt doesnt ask us to wage jihad haphazerdly aat our whim or even at maulana masood azhar's desire for that matter. There are laws & procedures- preperations and ground realities that Allah swt asks us to consdier when we are about to do Qital fi sabeel-lilah. Masadi is right..in current scenario when we are backward and behind in every aspect of life the only jiahd is defensive and any scholar of minimal repute will tell u that its incumbent on those ppl that are attacked by non-muslims, its not incumbent on all muslims living everywhere like salat is fard-ul-ayn. Offensive jihaad is done under an islamic state..n that state would have to be powerful enough to have at least an outside chance to be victorious..we are unable to provide clean water to human beings in our countries...baby steps my friend.

Happy Birthday, Pakistan!

so punk what are hindus doing to muslims in gujrat, kahmir and other spots in india, social justice?

listen u snivelling rodent islam enjoins upon every adult muslim male to protect his brother under attack if u are too cowardly o do that, thats your conscience that you have to satisfy and justify with whatever story about the US elite, but we as true muslims have to face allah after death and have to justify our conduct only to him an god knows we will do our duty as enjoined upon us by the quran.

#62, look idiot, don't try to present your BS as if that were the real world situation. Just like Jinnah you are trying to legitmize your own perversions (and foolish designs) by invoking "Hindus are killing Muslims", no "poverty is killing Muslims" in a world system dominated by the US elite that ensures that poverty just as that poverty is killing Hindus.

I don't listen to Iqbal or Mullah dopiyaza to teach me Islam, my source, as the only legitimate source of Islam, is the Quran and it is explicit that you are only allowed to fight those who attack you first and even then only to the extent of the aggression. And further that if you kill one unjustly it is as if you've destroyed all humanity. There is no justification left for "first strike" or for using nuclear weapons in Islam. First learn what "Shariah" means before you talk about "implementing" it by force. Finally Islam is not about nihilism, its about celebrating God's gifts, including life, and working for social justice (using just means not "nuking") in this world. Learn what it is about before you use it as a slogan, you little rat.

Masadi beemar tu hai har jagah tujhe US elite dikhta hai, you are the western tool, preventing the sharia from being implemented. hindus are killing and opressing muslims and hurting pakistan and you want them to continue doing so. Also they have nukes which they will use against us so we must do a first strike.

or you disagree with what islam teaches us - Shahadat hai matloob e maqsood e momin na male ghanimat na kishwar ka shahi

hai islam iske siva kya
ek sijdah shabbiri
ek zarbe yadillahi

Pakistan should follow example of turkey and Malaysia to keep islamists out of power as long as possible, there are number of ways it can be done.

Promote moderate islam by sarkari mullahs.

The british policy of divide and rule, so that mullahs do not see interest in common together and challenge liberal rulers with a united front.

#59 don't call yourself Muslim after you call for the nuking people. You are no Muslim, you're a pervert probably an RSS type who is acting out his believed caricature of Islam and Muslims. People like you, the current day "Jihadists" are Jinnah's blood brothers as are the rest of the West worshippers, you all form an unholy Trinity of perversion, for you help the West, the US elite, the Shaitan of the present, fulfil its perverse agenda around the globe.

You are the crusaders image of Islam brought to life. Like I said earlier, these so-called "Jihadists" take their morality from the US elite both are trigger happy when its comes to "nuking" people

jinnah was a vain man, wether he did something for us muslims is doubtful, he let Kashmir and its muslims come under paleet hindu rule and also left millions of muslims and most of the territory our ancestors had conquered behind.

He also took a "moth eaten" territory in two parts which could not be defended and promptly appointed himself governor general

Thank god he has become irrelevnt and we can now make pakistan into a sharia state as our majority demands.

The first act has to be to nuke india and free kashmir, let us see if India has second strike capability.