Jinnah and the Islamic State – Setting the Record Straight

#223 Posted by rozaiba

The overwhelming majority Muslim sentiment had become horrified by the display of overt religious piety and an embrace of caste-ist politics on part of Mr. Gandhi.

Here's what you said: "Secondly, no Ismaili-Shia in their right mind would risk annihilation at the hands of Maududi-ites and fight for the implementation of shariah laws which proclaim many Shia and Ismaili practices as shirk and deserving of a penalty. And Jinnah, being an Ismaili-Shia wasn't stupid."

This is between Muslims and Jinnah, but you had to bring Gandhi in. Can't get over that addiction with Gandhi, can you?

That was the primary reason, ie keeping the majority religion out of politics, Dalits like Mandal joined non-communal parties like the Muslim League.

Sure..the ML which campaigned for a separate nation on the basis of religious differences was non-communal and the Congress which called for a united India was communal. So what else is new?

#224 Posted by rozaiba,

You didn't answer my question:

Can a law minister formulate laws? In this case Mandal?

225 Posted by harish_hyd,

Harish, look. Please understand once and for all. We eat the cow that you worship. Can that difference be trivialized as just 'communalism'?

rozaiba,

If you can't answer the question below, then stand in the queue for canadian immigration (if you're not already one of those), and remain silent forever.

#227 by zeemax

Harish, look. Please understand once and for all. We eat the cow that you worship. Can that difference be trivialized as just 'communalism'?

Zee, was that one difference enough to override the hundreds of other similarities, including that of a common ancestry between us?

Clifton bi

you remind of Chris Rock's line: women exaggerate everything into apocalyptical terms... anybody having a dispute with them is actually out to do "destroy" them... :)

Either way - it's your funeral - so enjoy it... too much islam has already damaged various muslim communities around the world, more so in pakiland... and yet demand for more islamization is growing... talibanization is fast creeping over pakiland... so enjoy... :)

PS: And Muslims in India continue to eat the cow while Hindus continue to worship it.

#229 Posted by harish_hyd,

I don't subscribe to this common ancestry theory. Hamidm2 does. We are a different people altogether, genetically.

But yes, there's a cultural similarity, particularly amongst those Muslims of a Sufi bent of mind. Other than that, we love Indian music. So? I also love Jethro Tull.

#232 by zeemax

I don't subscribe to this common ancestry theory. Hamidm2 does. We are a different people altogether, genetically.

Well, whether one subscribes to it or not, one cannot deny the fact that essentially we're the same people (OK, maybe not genetically, since that seems to offend you and many Pakis - associating with Kala Madrasis always seems to offend Pakis).

But if every individual is different from another, are we going to divide humanity further because of these differences and not make an attempt to live together? If so, how further?

Zee whether you are like it or not either it's true that your grandpa Gopinath converted to Islam therefore your ancestors were Hindu or you are mlench an outsider.

Zee whether you are like it or not either it's true that your grandpa Gopinath converted to Islam therefore your ancestors were Hindu or you are mlench an outsider.

Oh well this shows the extent of intellect of these idiots who lay claim on Jinnah. rozaiba ran away when asked how was Mandal going to formulate any laws being the law minister after the claim that since Jinnah appointed a Hindu as Law Minister, he certainly meant to formulate Kafir laws. What about the constituent assembly? He doesn't appear to be aware of the existence of one, but just Mandal who was a proficient Beurocrat, and quite fittingly appointed.

Ch'tya is all I can say.

#232 Posted by zeemax on August 16, 2007 5:07:04 am


I don't subscribe to this common ancestry theory.


8 am on the east coast and the latest news: despite his delusions, zeemax still a paki whose great great grandma got a canadian visa...

#236 by zeemax

I've said this before on Atif's board and I'll say this again. It is easier dealing with an unabashed Islamist than a lying and weaseling liberal Paki. At least with the Islamists, WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get), but with the liberals, you never know when to expect a U-turn.

#233 Posted by harish_hyd,

Well yes, I will agree here as far as dividing humanity is concerned. But a pre-condition for that is that each must accept the others' intrinsic differences, and not confront those as being an aberration of history (mostly blamed on Jinnah by Indians) and expect the other to come around sometime.

What I would really want to see is SAARC as a S. Asian Identity activated to rival that of the EU. And believe me, it can.

#238 Posted by harish_hyd,

LoL ... That's true!