60 Years of American DogHood

This was very poorly written - some editing wudve helped w/ the language but the incoherence cud 1ly be fixed w/ a complete rewrite.
Prolly no1 picked up on this coz prolly no1 has bothered 2 read it..

#32 Tahmed32 {"The facts of May 12 are well known to all. So dont try to start arguing over them. Just remember what I wrote - dont let your ethnic affiliations cloud your common sense. Dont betray the rest of Pakistan at this critical time in its history by supporting a dictator and the murderers of May 12 simply because of ethnic affiliations"}

Tahmed Sahib,
Sir, you keep talking about the murders of May 12. How about the murders of Lal Masjid inmates - girls, boys, children, women, and men? Please be consistent. The May 12 victims went looking for a gunfight and found one. The Lal Masjid victims were surrounded, invaded, and then murdered in an "encounter" with the 6th or 7th mightiest army in the world. :(

{"militancy is a wonderful distraction from the more difficult task of living as an ordinary person.

Musharraf, ironically is a victim of his own success. Will he finally give up reforming Pakistan? The job is thankless and death is but a heartbeat away for all hardworking dogs."}

Saima,
Another excellent and timely article. You have really considered this canine matter from all perspectives - American, fundo jihadi, "liberal" secularist, military, and even an average Abdul and Shano Pakistani one.

Thank you for presenting Mushy as a loyal and hardworking canine - the real questions remain concerning the object of his loyalty and who benefits from his "hard" work?

Re: # 45

zeemax:

I totally agree with you about this "perception" thing. The main perpetrators of creating this so-called perception is the naPak fouj, which is the biggest yateem khana in Pakistan (as a matter of fact in the world) and their co-hort a westernized corrupt ruling class who see their own political and economic survival in supporting their neo-colonial masters; just as their predecessors saw their survival in supporting the british colonialism.

It is a cancerous mindset which would not go away without a thorough "overhaul" of the society - Iran had to do it, China had to do it. India is lucky that they got people like Nehru who were determined to get rid of the colonial baggage once and for all.

I do not find it just a coincident that whenever pakistan (read Pakistan's corrupt military elite and class) is a "frontline" ally of USA, Pakistan has suffered dearly. During 1965 Pakistan was "frontline" ally of US in their fight againt communism under a corrupt westernized military dictatorship and could barely saved itself from loosing Lahore and Sialkot to India. Again in 1971, Pak was a US ally under a corrupt westernized alcoholic adulterer dictator, and we lost half the country to Indian aggression. In 1984 Pakistan was "frontline" ally of US in their war against Russians under a maglomaniac military dictator and we lost Siachin to Indian aggression. Now the corrupt westernized class and napak fouj are once again American frontline allies under a vicious bloodthirsty military dicator and two provinces have become no man's land for naPak fouj. In general no naPak fouji would dare go outside of fortified cantonment in his uniform all over Pakistan. All military vehicles have been painted neutral and assigned civilian number plates. This US backed Military dictator uses napalm on school children while the westernized corrupt class chearleads the massacres. This is a pretty serious heap of shitt.

Pakistan needs to win its independence. The war of independence, the revolution that should have happened right after 14 August 1947, has only begun now. We are about 60 years too late for the overhaul.

Faruk #41 I dont think it matters who comes to power, as long as it is through free and fair elections. Pakistanis have already achieved a lot by shedding blood and through personal courage and shown the world they cannot be ignored. Character is destiny, and character shown by so many Pakistanis in the previous months augurs well for the future.

the objective was the same as it has always been with muslims. Why us? and Who did this to us?

zeemax #44 What is indeed so heartening is the manner in which Pakistanis have united on the fundamental issue, which is the rule of law.

And the Chief Justice who remained steadfast in his duty to protect the basic rights and the rule of law in Pakistan, despite attempts at bullying by Musharraf and his intelligence generals, has set a shining example that will no doubt be remembered centuries from now (and I dont think this is an exaggeration) in Pakistan history. Let us pray God gives the chief justice the strength he needs, and to all other Pakistanis, in the crucial months ahead.

Sis Saima, an interesting write-up! But what was your objective in writing it and what would you like people to do about the situation?

Democracy and pakistan are like oil and water. A nation created on the basis of a religin that calls for subservience needs a strong armed Idol (irony indeed). the sooner the pakistanis get over these dreams of having democracy, the sooner everything gets back to normal

#43 Posted by Urstruly,

I showed my disappointment in #15. It is a huge betrayal of sovereignty of one's own country.

#29 Posted by tahmed32

#28 vanguard: It is so nice to see your post. At this critical time, it is important for all Pakistanis - regardless of ethnicity or political differences - to stand together as one to get rid of military dictatorship once and for all.

Thanks for this post. This is where you get my affections and where we stand firmly hand in hand, despite our differences on EVERYTHING else!

Saima

I am totally dispointed in your tacit approval of this vicious and bloodthirsty hound dog who has no mercy for even school children.

I always thought that you were better than that.

??? ?? ?

re: tahmed32#29
Any thoughts on who/what will replace the army. Why will this experience be different from the past.

Regards,

Faruk

Re: vanguard #28
Could MQM have survived without its goons ? If you think the answer is yes please elaborate.


Regards,

Faruk

INDIA HAAS ITS OWN PRO AMERICAN & ANTI AMERICAN DOGGEDLY DIVIDED

Concerted move to avert nuke showdown
PM knocks on Buddha door
OUR SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT


Singh, Bhattacharjee
Calcutta, Aug. 14: The Prime Minister, locked in a standoff with the Left over the nuclear deal, called Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee this morning and requested the Bengal chief minister to meet him in Delhi.

Bhattacharjee, who will be at the CPM politburo conference in the capital on August 17 and 18, will meet Manmohan Singh on Friday.

“The Prime Minister contacted me this morning. He wanted to talk to me,” the chief minister told a Forward Bloc gathering that was mourning the death of party leader and former agriculture minister Kamal Guha.

“I told him (Singh) he already knew my party’s position on the nuclear deal: (that) we had discussed the issue among ourselves and would hold further discussions at the politburo meeting. I told him that since you want me to meet you, I would do that during my visit (to Delhi) for the politburo meeting.”

Among all CPM leaders, Bhattacharjee’s views on economic issues are believed to be the closest to the Prime Minister’s and the two are said to share a rapport.

But on the subject of the nuclear deal, an issue concerning mainly defence and foreign policy, the chief minister joined his party’s tirade against America.

“My party and I, too, believe that the prevailing national situation demands a special role for the Left,” Bhattacharjee said.

“We have told the UPA government not to surrender to pressure from the US imperialists and forge a strategic alliance with them.”

Some Left Front leaders believe that the Prime Minister is also keen on getting Jyoti Basu’s help in resolving the stalemate, and has already entrusted his chief trouble-shooter, foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee, to court the CPM patriarch.

Basu was recently reported to have suggested that the Left would stage a “walkout” if there was a vote in Parliament on the deal, saving the government as well as itself a lot of embarrassment.

CPM general secretary Prakash Karat, however, has said that nothing has been decided and asserted that the Congress should be prepared to face “the political consequences” of the nuclear agreement.

With sections in both the Congress and the Left keen to avoid a showdown, Mukherjee has been in touch with Left leaders such as Sitaram Yechury, hoping to make good use of the time till the politburo meeting ends on Saturday.