The 'poor' Neighbour

http://thedailycolumns.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/60-years/


Commemorating our sixtieth year of Independence, India’s top news channel Jetix went around asking random Indians what they thought were the ten most significant moments in the last sixty years of Indian History. After talking to about a thousand gazillion Indians (approximately one eighth of India’s total population), Jetix managed to compile an undisputable list of India’s ten greatest moments and achievements in the last sixty years. There were a few moments in the list that had completely escaped the collective memory of us Indians until the colorfully dressed Japanese midgets of Jetix recaptured it for us.


Titled : TOP TEN GOLDEN MOMENTS OF FREE INDIA

....the rest you have to read it there...

#257 jayp: clinging to every straw you can find, eh? :-)

YLH, read dawn every day and find out teh state of pakistan economy and infrastructure.

from dawn of today


KARACHI: PSQCA without electricity for a week


KARACHI, Aug 18: In the aftermath of the recent heavy rains in Karachi, the Pakistan Standards and Quality Control Authority has been without electricity for the past one week, says a PSQCA press release issued on Saturday.

It deplores that the ‘under-ground cable fault’ has not been detected as yet in spite of the passage of one week.

The statement further said that officials of the Karachi Electricity Supply Corporation are unable to say as to when the electricity supply of this important organisation will be restored.

It also expresses the apprehension that the samples of millions of rupees sent by the industry for laboratory testing might go to waste in view of the electricity outage.

tahmed 174,

I had been telling that pakistan will become a jihadic country for a long time and pakistanis have proved me right. Even in the far away USA, the topic is to bomb pakistan or not. For a long time pakistanis claimed that jihadis are in the rural areas, fanned by poverty, lal majid has proved me correct, the jihadis are from the educated class in the urban areas. supported by the mums and dads and not by the saudi money.

Now take the case pak talk about india. On chowk, I recall there was one romair, who kept telling that indian IT is nothing, there is no future, they are the code coolies. Now no one talks about that.

Pakistans core is rotten, the TNT, and till that is destroyed there can be no progress. Pakistan will sink further into jihadic morass. No benazir, no musheraff can save pakistan.

As pakistanis teh only thing they can do is to accelerate the decline so that the nadir is reached quicker and an improvement can begin.

Inrastructure and the military


There is so much talk about the pak infrastructure. No one mentioned that the major roads and buildings are built by the Hational Logistics Company a unit of the pak military. Many of the roads are built with no regard to the needs simply to transfer money to the military.

Pk military spending is not 25 percent of teh budget as claimed, it includes so much of money transferred to the military owned companies ranging from corn flakes to cement to infrastructure companies.

Many countries have an army, in pakistan the army has a country.

Nsqbandi 169

I gave some specific examples of stupid economic policy to illustrate that pakistanis even when educated do not understand the essence of sciences because of their conditioning by the religion.

I cited the examples from economic policy

here are a few from the social area. Take the case of thousands of pakistansi geeting passport to go for higher studies. Each and every one of them in their application make a statement that ahmadis are bad guys, they are non muslims , they are kafirs and the like. No pakistani, the educated ones have never raised the issue, because each one of them support what they state on the passport application. They all support the deal meted out to abdus salam, he uis a non-person in pakistan, no one mentions his name.

No one ever, as I have seen on chowk have said anything about abdus salam, stating that the non recognision given to abdus salam is a deep seated flaw in the pak thinking and how wcientific values are secondary to islamic values, and honoring a nobel prize winner, a non muslim is unthinkable for any pakistani.

The fact remains that teh collective pakistan can never honour abdus salam, and thsi collectve value is not that produced by the mullahs, it produced by men like you, naqbandi, the likes of YLH and tahmed.

Hey manto...IT is booming in the land of the pure...


A secular-minded Musharraf practised obfuscation and ambivalence as political theory. He rode the conservative PMLQ while mouthing secular slogans in reference to governance, the minorities and women. He thought passports could be bowdlerised of narrow-minded entries, but backed down when his party balked. He put joint electorates in the 17th Amendment but chickened out when it came to giving Ahmedis the same status as other non-Muslims. The policy on the madrassas was his most blatant failure. Under him the number of madrassas in Pakistan doubled, including the ones that opened right under his nose in Islamabad. The number of boys who joined the seminaries also doubled, and in Karachi the honeycomb of sectarian Deobandi madrassas proudly announced “house full” on admission days. He saw the hostile proliferation but kept quiet. The jihadi graduates of these madrassas tried to kill him, but he kept drawing in his horns rather than grasping the nettle and getting rid of the menace. He let the Lal Masjid affair simmer for years till it blew up in his face. In fact, he let Lal Masjid stage a mammoth anti-Shia gathering of sectarian criminals in 2006, thus throwing dust in the eyes of the “liberals” who supported him.

Like his adventure at Kargil, his mobilisation against Al Qaeda in Waziristan failed because of incompetence. The sectarian killings that had picked up in his tenure actually reached their peak. His “bold” operation in Balochistan alienated many because he attempted it without political support and in defiance of all advice. All sincere advice to him about attempting an alignment of the liberal forces behind him fell on deaf ears. By the time he realised that he had to talk to the political leaders he had ousted, his strangely “incomplete” personality had queered the pitch for any meaningful reconciliation.

Horror of Horrors !!!
Masadi is being taken seriously by the Minister for education !!!!
Masadi is submitting reports to the government!!!
Higher education in Pakistan shall henceforth be on lines suggested by Masadi!!!


Pinch !!! Wake up !!!! Pinch !!!

We have only Masadi's word for it.

It must be as true as the remainder of his bullshyte , viz his 'students" conducting "research" and publishing "papers" in his "institute". Masadi working towards the "Nobel Prize". Lulu.com being a better publisher than Springer Verlag, McGraw Hill, Prentice Hall etc.

Some prople will believe anything.....

Let us hope that as and when the tottering government falls and the Ministers and their lackeys are executed (nay, shot on the streets like rabid dogs)-- a few particularly sidey llackeys are not allowed to escape.

Re: Anil #250

I cannot disagree with you on this one.

The number that I gave is still staggering.

My problem is with how quickly South Asian

lives are cheapened, especially during partitions,

during 1947 or 1971 (for me this was a partition too).

I like your ideals:

"I believe a crime is committed when a single innocent is killed, raped or maimed."


Ras

now we are really effed !

....... mad masadi is in charge of shaping pakistan's higher education ! ......... i felt much safer with the mullahs of jamia hafsa and jamia fareedia - all they wanted was to teach us how to harness the power of jinns to solve the energy crisis and use camel urine to cure cancer ..... with masadi in charge we will all be reading mills and boone and blaming the american elite for everything that afflicts pakistan ..........verily, we are doomed .........

Ras:

I wrote what I saw from my eyes and heard from ears. Only thing I can say is that together we may present a more complete picture. With our biases included, I being an Indian student in England, and you being a non-bengali in East Pakistan. Also, you know what "mostly but not exclusively" kind of phrases mean, depending upon the audience.

It is for this reason, I had mentioned that I did not want to discuss. The perspective that I come from even one rape is too much, be it done by Indian-Army in Kashmir, or Pakistani Army in East Pakistan, or the U.S. marines in Iraq.

For a long time my life's rules do not allow me to accept "mostly but not exclusively" irrespective of who use it and when uses it. I believe a crime is committed when a single innocent is killed, raped or maimed. No matter where, including in the streets of Srinagar, and Gujrat; or Baghdad.

I completely agree with your closing lines.

I

Re: Anil #241 and #244

Since I was there till March 8, 1971, all I can add

is that non-Bengalis were being picked off and murdered

long before the Army acted on March 25, 1971.

The reaction was far more terrible than the action.

It was a sad time for humanity all around.

I asked one of my old teachers about what happened after

I left. He said that around 100,000 people were killed

mostly but not exclusively by the Pakistan Army.

My old teacher was an American who did not have any reason

to lie.

I asked him about the 3 Million figure. He just smiled

and said that somebody needed to start exposing the truth

about that time. He said that the highest number of people

killed were on March 25-26. He was there all along till long

after the surrender.

It was a shameful period for Pakistan. Let us hope that

such events are not duplicated anywhere today.



Ras

Arjun "Federal minister of the slave-to-the-west government? "

Yes, ain't that something?, he sees the light, agrees with my claim of his government being a lackey of the West and pushes the recommendation article titled "Overcoming the 'Colonial Subordination Model of Education'..."

Your parliamentary secretary has already declared a jihad on the US...

Jihad against India, US is the only remedy, says LeT chief
From our ANI Correspondent

Lahore, Aug 15: Banned terrorist outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed has said that jihad is the only remedy for all threats posed by India and US.




The LeT chief told a large rally at Regal Chowk that the India and US were directly involved in terrorism and sabotage activities inside Pakistan.

He claimed that the Pakistan Government was alleging that jihadis and Afghan mujahideens were carrying out bomb blasts, but this was being done just to please America.

"We have always stated that no mujahideen would ever get involved in suicide blasts against innocent civilians, and this stance was vindicated by the statement of the Parliamentary Secretary.

He said US leaders have been threatening attacks on Muslim holy places, and added that the nation was not afraid of any such threats.

Saeed said the rulers had caused great loss to the nation by befriending Washington and New Delhi, and allowing India to build a fence along the LoC, as well as by participating in the so-called grand jirga in Kabul.

Referring to a statement by the Parliamentary Secretary for Defence in the Senate, Saeed said that the Pakistan Government has adopted policies against Islam, and the wind of change has started blowing.

Saeed said the statement of the Parliamentary Secretary signified changes at the top, and added that it was the inner voice of the whole nation.

He warned that if the rulers did not change their policies then they themselves would have to be changed.

He further said that policies of the rulers had already created serious hatred against the Pakistan Army and the present situation resembled that of 1971, The News reported.

#239 Posted by MantoLives on August 18, 2007 11:33:58 am


HAHA...manto ko mirchi lagi..

India: IT
Pakistan: IT(Islamic Terrorism)

#243 Posted by masadi on August 18, 2007 12:19:18 pm


Thank you, yes the peak of my career was attained earlier this month when the Federal Minister in charge of the committee


Federal minister of the slave-to-the-west government?