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Independence Thinker

William Dalrymple August 18, 2007

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#327 Posted by harish_hyd on August 23, 2007 3:14:20 am
#326 by Yasser

The only evidence we are looking for is your claim Aisha or I abused/provoked you... which sadly you haven't been able to produce.

Aww Yasser mian, must you produce everything that you and the missus stand for? All I'm asking you to do is to proof of your claim that it was I who started the whole thing.

Clearly, the fact that you must have to post these ilogs again and again shows that you have nothing new. Can't help it, can we?
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#326 Posted by MantoLives on August 23, 2007 3:07:22 am
Dear Harish mian,

Did you read posts 300-305 which quote your ilogs? Are you blind as well?

Here are some more of your ilogs...where you show us what your mother taught you:


Deluded B!tch by harish_hyd Oct 27, 2006 05:43 am Views: 7
Please leave Yasser alone by harish_hyd Sep 29, 2006 12:19 am Views: 4
Enjoy this, b!tch!! It could be YOU by harish_hyd Sep 20, 2006 05:41 am Views: 4
Frustrated and Unemployed in Lahore by harish_hyd Sep 15, 2006 04:28 am Views: 4
Caste-free Pakistan by harish_hyd Sep 15, 2006 04:00 am Views: 4
No Title by harish_hyd Sep 15, 2006 03:55 am Views: 4
Tag Team In Action by harish_hyd Sep 15, 2006 03:00 am Views: 1
B!tch starts bitching by harish_hyd Sep 15, 2006 02:43 am Views: 1

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#307 Posted by harish_hyd on August 22, 2007 10:39:51 pm
Hahahaha!!! Yasser getting desperate. You can go on posting my ilogs just because unlike you, I do not delete the offensive ones. But does it in any way prove that you do not belong to the Hamdani family? I doubt...LOL!
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#306 Posted by harish_hyd on August 22, 2007 10:37:32 pm
#301 Posted by Yasser

Do you want more of what your mother taught you?

Yasser mian, and if your mother had taught you any common sense, along with decency and honesty, you would understand that my ilog in in response to one by the female Yasser. Any outsider who's reading this ilog can clearly notice that. And unlike you both, I do not delete my ilogs to hide proof of such foul and vulgar language that seems quite common in the Hamdani family. Once again, you've only proved my point that my posts/ilogs have always been in response to provocation from you and the female Yasser.
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#305 Posted by MantoLives on August 22, 2007 10:36:35 pm
Here you are back to showing us what kind of family you are from:

http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/54115/31575

Knight jumps to the rescue of damsel in distressPosted: Oct 29, 2006 Sun 10:36 pm Views: 1
If anyone is more likely to have been abused, it is Yasser’s mother..and we all know why. Perhaps also the reason why an Arab name was given to a Paki Muslim...oops Ahmadi...er Sunni....er Ismaili...phew!!!!


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#304 Posted by MantoLives on August 22, 2007 10:35:16 pm
Here you are thinking every woman in the world is like your mother:

http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/54344/31575

Feeling better now, b!tch?Posted: Nov 7, 2006 Tue 03:45 am Views: 2
When there is no good news to share about your country, what else can you do to make it look good? When the US audaciously bombs your country anytime it wants to without bothering to so much as apologize, you need something to reassure you that you indeed belong to a sovereign country and not some banana republic that lives on the crumbs thrown at it by its master

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#303 Posted by MantoLives on August 22, 2007 10:32:48 pm
And here you are protesting that you look like your father instead of your mother:

http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/56323/31575

At least I don’t look like a whore. That is what I would call audacity.

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#302 Posted by MantoLives on August 22, 2007 10:29:05 pm
Here is another... where you assume that everyone in the world follows the Gurumoorthy success ethic:

http://www.chowk.com/ilogs/56318/31575

Insecurity is when a Madarssah-educated nouveau-riche son is proud of his father’s supposed achievements, boasting to all and sundry (funny when this is such an anonmymous forum where no claim can be verified) that his dad drives a better car than Azim Premji, whose net worth would be enough to purchase every woman in this chutiya’s family a million times over.


The only evidence we are looking for is your claim Aisha or I abused/provoked you... which sadly you haven't been able to produce.

-YLH
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#325 Posted by harish_hyd on August 23, 2007 2:30:58 am
#321 by Yasser

What? Still no evidence? Yet another post goes wasted. Like I said before, all it proves Yasser mian is that you have been caught with your pants down and are now desperately looking for some cover. But coming from such an illustrious lineage, you shouldn't be ashamed at all, no?
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#324 Posted by MantoLives on August 23, 2007 12:59:47 am
Masadi mian,

We went through the discussion in detail and you failed to answer my points. So there is no point really in going in circles.

In my view, you are as disgusting and distasteful a liar as Mr. harish hyd of India... and utterly incapable of civilised academic dialogue based on facts.
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#323 Posted by masadi on August 23, 2007 12:57:12 am
Manto writes "Masadi mian,

An Indian poll recently conducted polls in Pakistan and India. One poll was about the founding fathers:

Jinnah's approval ratings in Pakistan 97% in India 43 %"

One things third rate lawyers should never do is throw out polls to social scientists as "proof". What kind of nonsense is this "approval rating"- approving of what? Of course they are going to approve just like the poll that Zia ul Haq conducted asking Pakistani's if they "wanted Islam"- what were they going to say? That the Church of MAJ has taboo attached with rejection is why you get these high poll numbers, dig a little deeper with REAL questions and you'll get to know just how deep the resentment is with lackeys of the West...
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#322 Posted by MantoLives on August 23, 2007 12:45:46 am
"PS: And I don't need to prove to anyone about how I was provoked. I know it, you know it, and the female Yasser knows it. That's all that matters. "

Yes we do. You got "provoked" because Aisha expressed her point of view about India. How dare she!!! How dare she provoke you by saying India has abject poverty. She deserved worse abuse than that... that woman!
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#321 Posted by MantoLives on August 23, 2007 12:39:23 am
Dear Harish mian,

You did not respond in kind. You being from where you are not used to women expressing their point of view. Hence you resorted to abuse.

Lets get something straight. My objection was to your hypocrisy in your post addressed to folio. You are the last person who ought to be giving moralistic lectures to anyone.

Otherwise your abuse doesn't bother us. I take it as evidence of your family background and dubious lineage.
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#320 Posted by harish_hyd on August 23, 2007 12:29:14 am
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#319 Posted by harish_hyd on August 23, 2007 12:27:00 am
#318 by Yasser

The fact that you've not produced a single piece of "abuse" from us proves that you started it.

Hahahaha! So why do you think I would dig out your posts? You started the whole discussion about how I abused the female Yasser in #268. I did not go around to people crying that I was abused. It was you who said in this post:

"... ironic to see Harish mian, who has been hurling similar and worst abuses at Aisha Sarwari for expressing her point of view"

and then in #273:

"You know full well that we've never abused you and any indirect insinuations I made to your family were after your hurled abuses at Aisha."

I already said I RESPONDED IN KIND. Now show us proof that I started it? Come on, don't waste my time with your moronic (non)arguments.
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#318 Posted by MantoLives on August 23, 2007 12:02:50 am
Dear Harish mian,

If you were "retaliating", where is the evidence that something provoked you? Did Aisha or I ever call your mother or any other woman a "bitch" or a "whore" or a "slut" or anything of the sort?

The fact that you've not produced a single piece of "abuse" from us proves that you started it. Aisha's ilogs as well as posts and my ilogs and my posts are there to which you responded.

You know we did not start it. We did not even respond in kind. Yet instead of apologising for being abusive, you are going in circles, making adhominem accusations without any real basis.

My contention that you are a bloody hypocrite stands PROVED.

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#317 Posted by harish_hyd on August 22, 2007 11:53:05 pm
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#316 Posted by MantoLives on August 22, 2007 11:42:45 pm
Harish mian,

You are a joke. I've produced atleast 10 ilogs where you are showing us your family background and you've produced not even a single ilog/blog with any abuse from us.

All you could come up was some blog about misquoting Gandhi which I've shown is from an Indian book published by JNU Press. I stand by the quote because it is not some anonymous blog but an actual published piece of work by an Indian publisher.

So it is proved that you are one of the most abusive people on this website who can't take a counter argument without resorting to vilest abuse.

Now it was upto you to produce a single piece of evidence against us... ilog, post, blog etc and we've not deleted anything as God is our witness... you've failed miserably.

What I don't understand is why you are so insistent on lying. You know... God knows.. I know ... that what I am saying is true. Why not prove to me that you are a human being by admitting that you made a mistake and that you are sorry.
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#315 Posted by harish_hyd on August 22, 2007 11:31:51 pm
#314 by Yasser

Please tell me where in this ilog are we abusing you?

Yaar Yasser, that was a blog, not ilog. Sorry for the confusion. But in that post, where did I claim that you were abusing me? All I'm saying is that you have abused facts (which BTW is nothing new), and whoever wrote that blog has duly recorded it. And after that, if you still feel others see you as honest (and bringing in God as witness, as if he's gonna come down and testify for you), you're only deluding yourself.

But really, you're flogging a dead horse. I don't know what it is that you are out to prove. If you're bent on proving that I abused you and the missus, I already said that I have and it was in retaliation to abuse from you. If there is anything left to be proved, it is that I started it. Sadly, you've miserably failed to do that after almost 50 inane posts. So until you come up with something concrete to prove that I started it, I will respond at my own sweet will and time. I'm not going to match you word for word in idiocy, because no one can match you when it comes to it. But your dishonesty is starkly exposed and your "reputation" for spinning facts has spread far beyond the small confines of Chowk. Have a nice one!
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#314 Posted by MantoLives on August 22, 2007 10:58:17 pm
Harish mian,

Please tell me where in this ilog are we abusing you?

The quote I got was from Dr. Ajeet Javed's book and was a different one but that is a different issue. 'I am a Hindu first and hence a true Indian' (Secular and Nationalist Jinnah by Ajeet Javed Singh Page 187, Jawaharlal Nehru University Press)

But how does it give you the right to abuse other people and their families?


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#313 Posted by harish_hyd on August 22, 2007 10:52:40 pm
#312 by Yasser

As god is my witness, we didn't delete or change anything. You can go look at it. You got banned.

Here's the ilog I found about you and the female Yasser:

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http://arunsmusings.blogspot.com/ 2006/01/on-quote-from-gandhi.html

On a quote from Gandhi

The Pakistani duo of Aisha Fayyazi Sarwari and Yasser Latif Hamdani are of the apparent opinion that sufficient repetition can turn anything into fact. An instance is the quote they attribute to Mahatma Gandhi:

'I am a Hindu first and hence a true Indian'

More accurately, the quote is

"There is undoubtedly a sense in which the statement is true when I say that I hold my religion dearer than my country and that, therefore, I am a Hindu first and nationalist after. I do not become on that score a less nationalist than the best of them. I simply thereby imply that the interests of my country are identical with those of my religion."

What is the nature of his religion and his nationalism?

I can neither serve God nor humanity if as an Indian I do not serve India, and as a Hindu I do not serve the Indian Mussalmans.

To understand the crusade against Mahatma Gandhi, one has to understand that he is a bulwark of modern Indian secular democracy. Those who would destroy it must diminish Gandhi. This is as true of the rabid Hindu rightwingers in India as it is of Pakistanis.
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After this, do you expect anyone to take your word honestly? "God is my witness".....LOL!!!!!!
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#312 Posted by MantoLives on August 22, 2007 10:49:30 pm
Dear Harish mian,

As god is my witness, we didn't delete or change anything. You can go look at it. You got banned.

You are basically devoid of humanity. You abused Aisha because she dared to express her point of view. How dare she ... that woman. I've proved with evidence what kind of disgusting and filthy background you hail from.

May God help those who have the misfortune being associated with a disgusting freak like you.
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