The Transformation of the Punjabi Man: Pashtunization or Militarization?

IB: "Zahid,T-Ahmed and HP's attitude towards us Mohajirs is typical of people in North - that Karachi walas are
paan eating spiting people - dark coloured bhayas "

Huh?? Where did I write that? Isnt it pathetic that you have to make things up in order to support your need to be the victim.

Masadi: I get your basic point - "tahmed is destined or hell because he is so evil as to contradict me when I start ranting about the "evil US elite". Dont comment on what he says on any issue."

Wow!! I understand how miserable life must be for someone who thinks he is some kind of a world revolutionary while working for the underlings of the underlings of the underlings of the Musharraf, the man he grandly calls the US peon. Please accept my condolences.

Zahid-e-Khushk #257 {"The question about the incapability of the offspring of the magrated villagers/small city dwellers from U.P. and Bihar to convert the small cities of their new land into flourishing economies is constantly being avoided here for the obvious reason that then the question about the persistent incapability of their brethren in U.P. and Bihar irrespective of thier religion to transform and develop their ancestral land with no danger of any counterproductive involvement of Punjab would arise."}

Khushki,
Just like your run-on sentence, there is no end to your whining about migrants from villages of UP and Bihar. From experience, it is evident that pisser-e-zameen like to beat down their opposition with their own impregnable and irritating hard skulls. Please allow me to rephrase my explanation.

Right after partition, the illiterate and backward Muslims of UP, Delhi, and Bihar, settled mostly in miserable villages, set out on foot to the promised land of Pakistan. They were sick and tired of being tenant farmers, serfs, and slaves of the Hindu upper classes, whom they had been serving for generations since the 13th century. After arriving in West Punjab, these greedy immigrants, despite the repeated pleas of the generous citizens of Lahore and surrounding areas, stubbornly traveled on to the port of Karachi where they could find fertile soil for practicing their age-old occupation of farming. Before departing for Sind, these Mohajirs set upon the innocent Sikh and Hindu Punjabis, looted their lands, sold them at a profit to Punjabi Muslims arriving from East Punjab, and then pocketed the riches of the departing baniyas. They raped and slaughtered and slaughtered and rape all the way from Lahore to Karachi.

Once they arrived in Karachi, the native Sindhis forced them to attend schools, learn English, improve their own Urdu, and start participating in the commercial, governmental, educational, and military. They had arrived penniless, illiterate, and semi-naked from India, but within a decade they were running the show throughout the country and oppressing poor Punjabis, Sindhis, Baluchis, Kashmiris, and even Pathans and Bengalis. They were all very warlike Muslim extremists and invented suicide bombings and fought the Pakistan military throughout their ungrateful existence in Karachi and elsewhere.

They were given a huge quota for education, employment, and military opportunities and yet they constantly complained about not having ample facilities or aid from the government. Even as Pakistani citizens, these ungrateful migrants supported India and even worked for RAW in dismantling the unity of Pakistan. In 1971, the Mohajirs played the primary role in the defeat and ensuing bifurcation of Pakistan. They alienated the honest and democratically elected civilian leaders like Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto and MiaN Nawaz Sharif. Then the Mohajirs all became Tally Bans and started fighting with the Paki Army and even tried to give away Pakistan's nuclear capability that was attained by the intelligent, hard-working, and diligent scientists from Punjab. These selfish and dishonest fifth columnists did not even support the courageous and honest Chief Justice during his struggle with the Mohajir dictator. On May 12, 2007 the Mohajirs killed many unarmed and peaceful sufi followers who wanted to welcome the Chief Justice to Karachi, which could have been another Dubai, Lahore, or Singapore, if the Mohajirs could have been better human beings.

Masadi kindly buzz off !

salimchauhan: I never heard the term "pisser-e-zameen" until you started using it. By coming up with such distinctions between the "mohajirs" and the original inhabitants of what is now Pakistan, no matter how fancy the language you conjure up, you are not doing "mohajirs" any favors.

And when you say "just hide behind Masadi Sahib" - you dragged in masadi by addressing a lengthy post to him listing my sins. Not me.

Anyway, last post to you. Have a nice day.

khushk, you seems to be GM Syed Inspired Soul.

Salim Bhai,Clifton Baji,Che Janab,
I think it's pretty clear how important it is for the Muhajirs to unite under MQM with all the flaws and evil inside MQM because it's MQM which is our last resort from
the racist Sindis and ungreatful Punjabis.

Zahid,T-Ahmed and HP's attitude towards us Mohajirs is typical of people in North - that Karachi walas are
paan eating spiting people - dark coloured bhayas who should be greatful because it's we (the Sindis,Punjabis ) gave them land ! how dare they speak? ( what's astonishing is this is comming from the educated class and not from the average joe on the street) .

The question about the incapability of the offspring of the magrated villagers/small city dwellers from U.P. and Bihar to convert the small cities of their new land into flourishing economies is constantly being avoided here for the obvious reason that then the question about the persistent incapability of their brethren in U.P. and Bihar irrespective of thier religion to transform and develop their ancestral land with no danger of any counterproductive involvement of Punjab would arise.

A listing of these 'small/medium-sized cities' from where the sizeable number of immigrants should've come -- and presented here a little earlier -- with the population then and now would help bring that in a more scientific perspective.

#249 Tahmed Sahib {"salimchauhan #245: as for the rest of your rantings, I am glad you find a kindred soul like Masadi to share your misery with. "}

Tahmed Sahib,
That's right, when you cannot provide convincing answers, just hide behind Masadi Sahib - just like your idol Bushy hides behind UBL.

#251, #252
Chaltoo,
Is it customary for US Elites to stutter? I guess you are right, because Bobby Kennedy had the same problem. He talked like Bugs Bunny though.

#248 Tahmed {"#245 salimchauhan: So, referring to Biharis as Biharis is racist?"}

Tahmed Sahib,
No, it's not. But when you lump Urdu-speaker "stranded in Bangladesh" (including Urdu-speaking people from Murshidabad, Calcutta, and Urdu-speaking people from UP) under the term "Bihari," and knowing the perception of "Bihari" among the pisser-e-zameen, especially those hailing from Punjab, it doesn't take a Darwin to figure out that you are using a racist slur.

Please don't try to get too clever in your feeble attempt to disguise your xenophobic racism. I can forgive most of your vices, but this racist tendency of yours is hard to overlook. It just reinforces your habitual hypocrisy for all to see.

Chaltahai writes "Masadi, as a US Elite, ....."

You are certainly not among their ranks, at best you are a low level service peon to the elite.

Masadi, as a US Elite, i would like to remind you that you are destined to be railroaded into mediocrity. (just a friendly reminder)

Love,

chaltahai Elite Supreme

Masadi, as a US Elite, i would like to remind you that you are destined to be railroaded into mediocrity. (just a friendly reminder)

Love,

chaltahai Elite Supreme

tahmed writes "#245 salimchauhan: So, referring to Biharis as Biharis is racist?"

Let me answer this hypocrite. Yes it is racist if you mean to imply that certain people are "outsiders". But of course you don't realize it just like your white masters, they didn't recognize the "seperate but equal" as being racist either.....

salimchauhan #245: as for the rest of your rantings, I am glad you find a kindred soul like Masadi to share your misery with.

#245 salimchauhan: So, referring to Biharis as Biharis is racist?