Dodging Pakistani Sleuths to Cover a War and a Coup

Jawed,

In the case of pakistan there are so many absurdities to write about, so many aspects to be challenged, so many lies to be exposed.

Here are a few, who ordered kargill invasion.

What happened in Bangladesh, what are the findings of Rehman commission
What is teh basis for extraditing pak citizens
What is the pak opposition party meetings held in Landon

Does ISI fund the kasmir jihadis

Pakistan is a hell hole, the govt and the politicians are habitual liars.

Here are a few scandals for you

Did the father bhutto kill any one

Was zia killed by a missile

What is the deal that bhotto made and how much of her money is in Swiss banks.

Jawed, what is needed is the results, how many ministers resigned in Tehleka Case.

What a comparison, jounalism in a corrupt failed military dictator ship and that of a democracy.

The irony is that you are considered a journalist in Pakistan.

Jawed,

Here is another topic for a crtical writing by Journo like you.

From dawn of today


PIA family silver to go for half its price



By Khaleeq Kiani


ISLAMABAD, Aug 24: The government has decided to go ahead with the sale of Roosevelt Hotel in New York’s upscale Manhattan district despite sustained opposition from the property’s owner, Pakistan International Airlines Investments Limited (PIAIL).

Questions pertaining to conflict of interest and the fiscal propriety of selling the profitable hotel continue to haunt the sale process. Compounding the problem are mouth-watering offers of close to $1 billion from Manhattan-based real estate developers who reportedly want to build a skyscraper on the prime commercial land.The government, for its part, is trying to play down these offers because its financial advisers — a consortium led by Citibank, Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz’s former employers — have put the Roosevelt’s value at about $400 million, or less than half of what some New York developers are ostensibly willing to pay for the property.

Comparing apples with oranges appears to be still in vogue and the lessons of the last many decades are still unlearned by self-styled Indian 'liberals' .

In India a Prime Minister and his/her son can be voted out of power without questions needing to be asked. This was not the case with Ayub, Zia and Musharraf who did not allow the public to vote them of power, the first two, for more than a decade each and both had to be physically removed from office. In India, Army Chiefs have not so far overthrowm the constitution on a whim and pronounced it as a piece of paper. In Pakistan the defence budget is a one line item which cannot be questioned even in the National Assembly while in India journalists from all over the world can read the public details of the Indian defence budget with their own eyes.

Comparing apples with oranges appears to be still in vogue and the lessons of the last many decades are still unlearned by self-styled Indian 'liberals' .

In India a Prime Minister and his/her son can be voted out of power without questions needing to be asked. This was not the case with Ayub, Zia and Musharraf who did not allow the public to vote them OUT of power, the first two, for more than a decade each and both had to be physically removed from office. In India, Army Chiefs have not so far overthrown the constitution on a personal whim and pronounced it as a piece of paper.

In Pakistan the defence budget is a one line item which cannot be questioned even in the National Assembly while in India journalists from all over the world can read the public details of the Indian defence budget with their own eyes.

And to continue
In India, the Indian defence response to the Kargil episode was analyzed in a report tabled in Parliament which was again, open to the whole world to read, including India's military opponents, namely the Pakistani Army, their jihadis and Musharraf himself.

In Pakistan are we being asked to believe that society is more open because intrepid and honest Pakistani journalists have dared to contradict the Army dictator who has allowed no public debate nor official enquiry into the Kargil adventure and who subsequently deposed an elected Prime Minister who publicly disagreed with him over it.

The author asks [But this leads me to the question I have asked frequently somewhat in vain. We can quote any number of Pakistani journalists, and Baruah has marshalled quite a few including Dawn’s Ayaz Amir to shore up his point which are not too dissimilar to official Indian claims. But how many mainstream Indian journalists can we quote who have striven to contradict their government’s assertions in the course of a war or even in a verbal duel that India has been involved with practically all its neighbours at one time or another? Quotations from Pakistani journalists surface in practically every chapter of Dateline Islamabad. But can we name one Indian journalist in Delhi who could come anywhere near the blunt posers that are so often hurled by Pakistani journalists to people in authority, particularly so to military dictators?]

This indicates clearly that the author does not understand the kind of thugs we have in India.

In May 2007, a Tamil daily published the results of a survey. The question asked was: who should succeed Doctor Artist Leader Chief Minister the Fund of Compassion (Karunanidhi, the chief minister of Tamil Nadu)?

The response was some 78% opined it should be his son M K Stalin. The category "All Others" came in at 2%.

Karunanidhi's son Azhagiri, enraged that he was relegated to the 2% group, ordered the burning of the daily newspaper's office in Madurai. In the fire, two computer engineers employed to manage the computer center that oversaw the distribution of the cable network system owned by the same folks who owned the daily newspaper burned to death. The police stood around doing nothing. Even the Director-General of Police of Tamil Nadu acknowledged that the police did not cover themselves with glory in this incident.

By the way, the newspaper and the cable network were owned by Azhagiri's cousins who belonged to the same political party.

And you want penetrating questions from Indian journalists?

pakistani journalists and politicians are two faced and unpatriotic always interested in self glory, they will reveal all state secrets and ask questions for their own fame. They have to learn lessons from Indian journalists and politicians they never reveal any secrets about their nuclear program, never ask uncomfortable questions like why not give Kashmir freedom, they always follow govt line on kashmir.

Now again unpatriotic and self serving Pakistanis have allowed Nawaz Chor Sharif to come back, same man who was not allowing army chief's plane to land and wanted to kill him, same man who robbed the country of billions and sacked president, chief justice and editors, after kargil put all blame on the army and general now this traitor will again be relected along with besharam beghairat Benazir to start looting the country again. Beyghairat pakistanis learn no lesson from hindus, look how they defend their nuclear secrets, support their govts. occupation of Kashmir never asking questions, even JEWISH press asks questions from their govt. on Palestine, but behayya pakistanis never learn from hindus they follow only JEWs

Off topic, but why does a Pakistani call himself Borivili_Express??
Anyway, I have heard Indian journos ask some pretty hard hitting questions of politicians in the past. However, those days are over, as journalists seem to be afraid to ask questions of the Congress/Mulayam/the left front, etc, in case it gives the Bjp ammunition, perhaps? While the BJP was in power, they were perfectly happy to ask the BJP questions but never the Congress opposition. Mrs Gandhi in particular gets very good press and no one ever asks difficult questions of her.

My close relative was posted as first sec. to Pak High Commision to New Delhi between 1987-89. I remember when we went to visit him ( I was a kid then ) - there used to be a Intel. hounds who used to follow him - what the first sec. did was to circle in rounds 3-4 times on a round-about and make a dash for it. It was funny to see the Indians - following - circleing us ...
and there used is a basement in Pak.High Commission where - Visa Consulers leave suspicious ppl. who come to get visa for 5-6 hours - (that is they were informed of someone comming before from intl. sources ) so they gave him a 'ragh-ra'
(first sec. then - as one of the most senior intellegence officials in Pakistan - )

Pakistanis should be greatful to the Amrikkans in general and Condi Rice in particular.

Otherwise, they would be living under a state of "save that Mushy in the national interest or Pakistan will die" emergency RIGHT NOW!

As far as free press is concerned - heck, everybody knows that there are lines pre-marked which the Pakistani journos are not allowed to cross.

Remember Danny Perl!

The arguments that Sadna makes here are quitre laudable. however that does not mean that the press or the political environment in India is more free, translucent and transparent than in Pakistan. And if my worthy opinionated predecessor thinks that I am wrong then could you please explain to me that why has the press not taken corrupt politicians to the book? Why has the press in India not been rigourously reporting about the alleged female infanticides that are now rampant in northern India?

Why has the press in India never questioned the official positions on KAshmir and why did the Indian press not lash out at Indira Gandhi when she ordered troops to march into East PAkistan in 1971???

Contradictory to this, the press in Pakistan has not, at least in the last eight to ten years, buyed out or toed the official lines on Kashmir, the policies of the state, such as General Musharraf's decision of not advocating implementation of UN resolutions on Kashmir anymore, have been challenged and questioned quite critically in two of PAkistan's largest English language papers, Dawn and The News!

It was the media in Pakistan that had recently mobilised the masses behind Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudry. It was the media in Pakistan that did question General Musharraf's ideology of enlightened moderation. Even the alleged deals b/w Musharraf and Benazir bhutto have not gone scott free.

On the social side, the media has raised issues about commercial and sexual exploitation of children and women, journalists and columnists have discussed issues such as AIDS, consensual sex outside marriage, education problems, infrastructure and health care problems, etc. quite openly and have been critical of the government most of the time! Has such a thing happened in the Indian press, I do not think so!!!

The arguments that Sadna makes here are quitre laudable. however that does not mean that the press or the political environment in India is more free, translucent and transparent than in Pakistan. And if my worthy opinionated predecessor thinks that I am wrong then could you please explain to me that why has the press not taken corrupt politicians to the book? Why has the press in India not been rigourously reporting about the alleged female infanticides that are now rampant in northern India?

Why has the press in India never questioned the official positions on KAshmir and why did the Indian press not lash out at Indira Gandhi when she ordered troops to march into East PAkistan in 1971???

Contradictory to this, the press in Pakistan has not, at least in the last eight to ten years, buyed out or toed the official lines on Kashmir, the policies of the state, such as General Musharraf's decision of not advocating implementation of UN resolutions on Kashmir anymore, have been challenged and questioned quite critically in two of PAkistan's largest English language papers, Dawn and The News!

It was the media in Pakistan that had recently mobilised the masses behind Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudry. It was the media in Pakistan that did question General Musharraf's ideology of enlightened moderation. Even the alleged deals b/w Musharraf and Benazir bhutto have not gone scott free.

On the social side, the media has raised issues about commercial and sexual exploitation of children and women, journalists and columnists have discussed issues such as AIDS, consensual sex outside marriage, education problems, infrastructure and health care problems, etc. quite openly and have been critical of the government most of the time! Has such a thing happened in the Indian press, I do not think so!!!

Jawed invariably touches the topics that concern both Hindustan and Pakistan. Good 2 see him on CHowk.

Amit Baruah, an Assamee, I think is an insightful reporter and analyst.

Btw, it's so brazen that sleuths follow even journalists and ordinary visitors. It's comical that they even follow Harinder Baweja, Rajdeep Sardesai and Sekher Gupta. In India the IB and RAW guys tail even Yasin Malik; it's equally comical that once he took lift from a sleuth when Yasin's car broke down (when he's going to Pakistan High Commission in Chanakya Puri).

Preview and confirm your commentsmehrozsiraj

Sadna won't agree but it is a a cultural issue, as borivili quite accurately sees it.

Our culture, the Indian culture, is much closer to the American culture, probably more in aspiration than in reality right now, than it is to Pakistani culture. If you notice, American media too is not as free as the Pakistani news media, and Americans too line up behind their government's position.