nabendu debsharma August 26, 2007
#38 Posted by Zyxius on November 12, 2007 10:15:01 pm
On my last trip to Dubai I was standing in line at Customs waiting like everyone else. I noticed a couple of very young locals, who had been hired for some purpose at the airport, walking around inspecting the line and ensuring that people are not switching lines. Pretty silly to have 5 guys doing that but hey, they have the money for it. I also noticed that these locals were nice to all the Europeans, but those poor Indian laborers who were also in line with us would get yelled at for the smallest things. The guy at the front of our line stamping everyones' passports was some young idiot too, he didn't exactly know what he was doing and it was taking forever. After 1 hour of waiting, people started getting tired and started complaining. One poor Indian worker dared to just ask how much longer it will take when those local line enforcers came along and started shouting at him and asking, "you want to know how long it will take huh?!" and they took him with them into a room obviously meant for people who had been caught doing something wrong. We didn't see that poor guy again, I am guessing he probably got deported. His only crime was to be a laborer who dared to ask how much longer it was going to take. Thats how Dubai works!
#37 Posted by Zyxius on November 12, 2007 10:05:39 pm
Dubai is doing marvelously, but that is only economically and that is just one part of the whole story. The other side is inhuman treatment of labor, the officially sanctioned prostitution industry, money laundering, racism against all except the British (who were masters until two decades ago and now they are the senior managers), etc. The local population of Dubai does have a culture of racism towards many other people which often goes to inhuman lengths...anyone who has lived there can tell you horror stories about some poor Indian bloke working for a rich Arbab who regularly abused him both physically and otherwise. Legal rights of non-locals have always been precarious. Lets not forget how destructive their institutionalized practice of prostitution has been...how many little girls and women and even boys do you think have been scarred for life over the last several decades in Dubai's sex trade. They've decided to don suits and an air of respectability now, but lets not forget what these guys have been doing until now and what they are still doing under the dark side of this economic boom. Bet Shaikh Mohammad doesn't believe in freedom of the media enough to allow open reporting about this stuff from inside Dubai.
Overall Dubai lets you know that you may be moved aside at any time if someone else comes along who has more money and is willing to spend it. They have privatized most beaches so that the lower income residents of the city can no longer afford to go to the beaches simply because there aren't many left within a short/affordable distance. If you live on rent in Dubai, your choice has been to either fork up the ever higher rates or go to hell (Ras Al Khaimah)...this is ok from the capitalist point of view that supply and demand should determine these things...but there is a little thing called humanity which says that an such rapid increases will naturally not be affordable to vast numbers who will have no choice but to be forced out...this doesn't augur well for building much of a society...its just a place to shop, do some business and, if you are into that sort of thing...have sex with one of Dubai's 200,000-500,000 (not sure of the figure) prostitutes.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/dark_side_of_du.html
Da rk Side of Dubai's Boomtown
November 13, 2006 10:20 AM
Brian Ross and Jill Rackmill Report:
Workersbus_nr It may be the world's biggest boomtown, but human rights groups say that Dubai's gleaming towers are being built on the backs of exploited foreign workers.
A tiny Arab emirate on the Persian Gulf, Dubai has been making a big splash as a city on the rise -- with a glittering skyline, world-class shopping malls and luxury resorts, all fueled by the grand vision of its absolute ruler, Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid al Maktoum.
But in a scathing new report released in Dubai this weekend, the organization Human Rights Watch says the migrant construction workers building Dubai are little more than indentured servants in the wealthy kingdom, one of seven emirates in the United Arab Emirates (U.A.E.).
THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS
* Dubai Ruler Sued in U.S. Over Enslaving Small Boys
* Human Trafficking: From Dubai to Brazil to Germany
* Click Here to Check Out More of the Brian Ross Page
In an exclusive 20/20 story to air this Friday, Nov. 17, the ABC News investigative team went inside Dubai to learn how the emirate has grown so far so fast.
Just days after ABC News began asking questions, the government of the U.A.E. announced a series of reforms to improve the conditions of workers.
Clotheslines_nr_1 Dubai's building boom has been made possible by some 500,000 migrant construction workers, most from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Many work 12 hours a day, six days a week, in extremely hot temperatures that have led to illness and, in some cases, death. The workers live in crowded camps, with eight or more men sharing one small room.
In the Human Rights Watch report, called "Building Towers, Cheating Workers," researchers say that the average migrant worker receives a salary of about $175 a month. There is no minimum wage in Dubai, and some workers make as little as $8 a day.
Through extensive interviews, Human Rights Watch researchers found that employers in Dubai routinely abuse workers by withholding their wages for their first two months, along with their passports as "security" to keep them from quitting.
But the migrant workers have little freedom to quit since many have borrowed thousands of dollars to get the jobs to begin with, paying "recruiters" visa and travel fees, which under U.A.E. law should be paid by the employers, not the construction workers.
When workers arrive in Dubai, the construction jobs sometimes pay less than the recruiters originally promised. Desperate to repay their loans, the workers in those cases are trapped. And under U.A.E. law, it is illegal to switch jobs without permission from your employer. Unions are illegal, and striking workers have been deported.
"They are living in fear and in extreme anxiety," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch, adding that some workers, feeling hopeless, have even committed suicide.
Dubai's defenders point out that construction wages and conditions are comparable, if not superior to those in neighboring countries.
"Certainly they are going to be making more money than they would from the villages that they come from," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch. "But the very fact that they are so poor and so vulnerable is no reason that they should be taken advantage of to the extent that they are being taken advantage in the U.A.E."
After a series of well-publicized strikes and complaints over the last year, the U.A.E. has made some efforts to improve conditions for workers.
A law was passed to halt construction between 12:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. during the scorching summer months when temperatures reach well over 100 degrees. But Human Rights Watch said not all employers follow this law, and there are few government inspectors to enforce it.
Earlier this year, the U.A.E. announced that trade unions would be legalized. But to date, the government has failed to do so, according to Human Rights Watch, which says that without a strong message from the rulers of the U.A.E., little will change.
"It doesn't happen," Whitson said. "These problems are not being addressed by the U.A.E. government in a serious way, in a way that says, 'We are going to put employers who violate the law in jail. We are going to send the message that this is not how you are going to do business in the U.A.E. We are going to impose hefty fines and penalties.'"
Just last week -- only days before Human Rights Watch report was released but a decade after the building boom began -- Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid al Maktoum, ruler of Dubai, ordered stricter enforcement of the country's labor laws. In addition, he called for improved medical care for workers, a special court to address their labor complaints and an increase in the number of inspectors monitoring camps and workplaces.
Overall Dubai lets you know that you may be moved aside at any time if someone else comes along who has more money and is willing to spend it. They have privatized most beaches so that the lower income residents of the city can no longer afford to go to the beaches simply because there aren't many left within a short/affordable distance. If you live on rent in Dubai, your choice has been to either fork up the ever higher rates or go to hell (Ras Al Khaimah)...this is ok from the capitalist point of view that supply and demand should determine these things...but there is a little thing called humanity which says that an such rapid increases will naturally not be affordable to vast numbers who will have no choice but to be forced out...this doesn't augur well for building much of a society...its just a place to shop, do some business and, if you are into that sort of thing...have sex with one of Dubai's 200,000-500,000 (not sure of the figure) prostitutes.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/dark_side_of_du.html
Da rk Side of Dubai's Boomtown
November 13, 2006 10:20 AM
Brian Ross and Jill Rackmill Report:
Workersbus_nr It may be the world's biggest boomtown, but human rights groups say that Dubai's gleaming towers are being built on the backs of exploited foreign workers.
A tiny Arab emirate on the Persian Gulf, Dubai has been making a big splash as a city on the rise -- with a glittering skyline, world-class shopping malls and luxury resorts, all fueled by the grand vision of its absolute ruler, Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid al Maktoum.
But in a scathing new report released in Dubai this weekend, the organization Human Rights Watch says the migrant construction workers building Dubai are little more than indentured servants in the wealthy kingdom, one of seven emirates in the United Arab Emirates (U.A.E.).
THE BLOTTER RECOMMENDS
* Dubai Ruler Sued in U.S. Over Enslaving Small Boys
* Human Trafficking: From Dubai to Brazil to Germany
* Click Here to Check Out More of the Brian Ross Page
In an exclusive 20/20 story to air this Friday, Nov. 17, the ABC News investigative team went inside Dubai to learn how the emirate has grown so far so fast.
Just days after ABC News began asking questions, the government of the U.A.E. announced a series of reforms to improve the conditions of workers.
Clotheslines_nr_1 Dubai's building boom has been made possible by some 500,000 migrant construction workers, most from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Many work 12 hours a day, six days a week, in extremely hot temperatures that have led to illness and, in some cases, death. The workers live in crowded camps, with eight or more men sharing one small room.
In the Human Rights Watch report, called "Building Towers, Cheating Workers," researchers say that the average migrant worker receives a salary of about $175 a month. There is no minimum wage in Dubai, and some workers make as little as $8 a day.
Through extensive interviews, Human Rights Watch researchers found that employers in Dubai routinely abuse workers by withholding their wages for their first two months, along with their passports as "security" to keep them from quitting.
But the migrant workers have little freedom to quit since many have borrowed thousands of dollars to get the jobs to begin with, paying "recruiters" visa and travel fees, which under U.A.E. law should be paid by the employers, not the construction workers.
When workers arrive in Dubai, the construction jobs sometimes pay less than the recruiters originally promised. Desperate to repay their loans, the workers in those cases are trapped. And under U.A.E. law, it is illegal to switch jobs without permission from your employer. Unions are illegal, and striking workers have been deported.
"They are living in fear and in extreme anxiety," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch, adding that some workers, feeling hopeless, have even committed suicide.
Dubai's defenders point out that construction wages and conditions are comparable, if not superior to those in neighboring countries.
"Certainly they are going to be making more money than they would from the villages that they come from," said Sarah Leah Whitson of Human Rights Watch. "But the very fact that they are so poor and so vulnerable is no reason that they should be taken advantage of to the extent that they are being taken advantage in the U.A.E."
After a series of well-publicized strikes and complaints over the last year, the U.A.E. has made some efforts to improve conditions for workers.
A law was passed to halt construction between 12:30 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. during the scorching summer months when temperatures reach well over 100 degrees. But Human Rights Watch said not all employers follow this law, and there are few government inspectors to enforce it.
Earlier this year, the U.A.E. announced that trade unions would be legalized. But to date, the government has failed to do so, according to Human Rights Watch, which says that without a strong message from the rulers of the U.A.E., little will change.
"It doesn't happen," Whitson said. "These problems are not being addressed by the U.A.E. government in a serious way, in a way that says, 'We are going to put employers who violate the law in jail. We are going to send the message that this is not how you are going to do business in the U.A.E. We are going to impose hefty fines and penalties.'"
Just last week -- only days before Human Rights Watch report was released but a decade after the building boom began -- Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid al Maktoum, ruler of Dubai, ordered stricter enforcement of the country's labor laws. In addition, he called for improved medical care for workers, a special court to address their labor complaints and an increase in the number of inspectors monitoring camps and workplaces.
#36 Posted by jayp on November 2, 2007 12:53:10 am
Rice tells Pakistan not to delay elections SHANNON, Ireland, Nov 2 (Reuters) U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said on Friday Pakistan must go ahead with elections next year and the United States opposed any move by President Pervez Musharraf to impose martial law. “I am not going to get into the details of our conversations but I think it would be quite obvious that the United States would not be supportive of extra-constitutional means,” said Rice, when asked whether the Unite
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This time it appears that Condi was more considerate to Mushy, the call was made at 1 AM instead of 2 AM and apparently Mushy was awake at 1 AM
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This time it appears that Condi was more considerate to Mushy, the call was made at 1 AM instead of 2 AM and apparently Mushy was awake at 1 AM
#35 Posted by borivili_express on November 1, 2007 12:07:44 pm
Islam Islam this is a sickening story in an islamic state these thre MFs would have been executed
#34 Posted by jayp on November 1, 2007 1:25:02 am
It is a good idea Romair, to have regional autonomy so that waziristan can host al quida. Karachi can have the indians etc. It will prevent also this type of events, below.
The only problem is how about the Jinnah vision...that will be bad.
from dawn of today
Suicide attack on Pakistan air force bus kills eight ISLAMABAD, Nov 1 (AFP): - A suicide bomber rammed his explosives-laden motorbike into a bus carrying Pakistani air force officials on Thursday, killing at least eight and wounding 40 others, officials said. Private TV channels reported that the death toll had risen to nine. “The bus was carrying trainee flying officers when it was attacked by the suicide bomber” in the Sargodha district of central Punjab province, interior ministry spokesman Brigadier Javed Cheema told AFP. “Eight air force officials died in the terrorist attack,” Cheema said, and around 40 were wounded. “It was a suicide attack and the target was the bus which was carrying the air force officials,” chief military spokesman Major General Waheed Arshad said. The dead included a squadron leader, two airmen and five trainee flying officers, security officials said on condition of anonymity. The bomber's dismembered head was found at the scene while some pieces of his body were stuck to the exterior of the bus, police officer Hamid Javed said. The bus itself was badly mangled in the blast. “It was a huge bang and was heard several kilometres away,” a police officer said. Ambulances raced the casualties to local
The only problem is how about the Jinnah vision...that will be bad.
from dawn of today
Suicide attack on Pakistan air force bus kills eight ISLAMABAD, Nov 1 (AFP): - A suicide bomber rammed his explosives-laden motorbike into a bus carrying Pakistani air force officials on Thursday, killing at least eight and wounding 40 others, officials said. Private TV channels reported that the death toll had risen to nine. “The bus was carrying trainee flying officers when it was attacked by the suicide bomber” in the Sargodha district of central Punjab province, interior ministry spokesman Brigadier Javed Cheema told AFP. “Eight air force officials died in the terrorist attack,” Cheema said, and around 40 were wounded. “It was a suicide attack and the target was the bus which was carrying the air force officials,” chief military spokesman Major General Waheed Arshad said. The dead included a squadron leader, two airmen and five trainee flying officers, security officials said on condition of anonymity. The bomber's dismembered head was found at the scene while some pieces of his body were stuck to the exterior of the bus, police officer Hamid Javed said. The bus itself was badly mangled in the blast. “It was a huge bang and was heard several kilometres away,” a police officer said. Ambulances raced the casualties to local
#33 Posted by ISlamIslam on November 1, 2007 1:00:30 am
You can take skyscrapers to an Islamic country but you can't take Muslim dicks out of other people's @rses.
In Rape Case, a French Youth Takes On Dubai
Bryan Denton for The New York Times
The rape of a 15-year-old French boy in a remote patch of desert outside of Dubai has raised questions about how the country’s legal system treats foreigners.
By THANASSIS CAMBANIS
Published: November 1, 2007
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates, Oct. 31 — Alexandre Robert, a French 15-year-old, was having a fine summer in this tourist paradise on the Persian Gulf. It was Bastille Day and he and a classmate had escaped the July heat at the beach for an air-conditioned arcade.
Just after sunset, Alex says he was rushing to meet his father for dinner when he bumped into an acquaintance, a 17-year-old native-born student at the American school, who said he and his cousin could drop Alex off at home.
There were, in fact, three Emirati men in the car, including a pair of former convicts ages 35 and 18, according to Alex. He says they drove him past his house and into a dark patch of desert, between a row of new villas and a power plant, took away his cellphone, threatened him with a knife and a club, and told him they would kill his family if he ever reported them.
Then they stripped off his pants and one by one sodomized him in the back seat of the car. They dumped Alex across from one of Dubai’s luxury hotel towers.
Alex and his family were about to learn that despite Dubai’s status as the Arab world’s paragon of modernity and wealth, and its well-earned reputation for protecting foreign investors, its criminal legal system remains a perilous gantlet when it comes to homosexuality and protection of foreigners.
The authorities not only discouraged Alex from pressing charges, he, his family and French diplomats say; they raised the possibility of charging him with criminal homosexual activity, and neglected for weeks to inform him or his parents that one of his attackers had tested H.I.V. positive while in prison four years earlier.
“They tried to smother this story,” Alex said by phone from Switzerland, where he fled a month into his 10th-grade school year, fearing a jail term in Dubai if charged with homosexual activity. “Dubai, they say we build the highest towers, they have the best hotels. But all the news, they hide it. They don’t want the world to know that Dubai still lives in the Middle Ages.”
Alex and his parents say they chose to go public with his case in the hope that it would press the authorities to prosecute the men.
United Arab Emirates law does not recognize rape of males, only a crime called “forced homosexuality.” The two adult men charged with sexually assaulting Alex have pleaded not guilty, although sperm from all three were found in Alex. The two adults appeared in court on Wednesday and were appointed a lawyer. They face trial before a three-judge panel on Nov. 7. The third, a minor, will be tried in juvenile court. Legal experts here say that men convicted of sexually assaulting other men usually serve sentences ranging from a few months to two years.
Dubai is a bustling financial and tourist center, one of seven states that form the United Arab Emirates. At least 90 percent of the residents of Dubai are not Emirati citizens and many say that Alex’s Kafkaesque legal journey brings into sharp relief questions about unequal treatment of foreigners here that have long been quietly raised among the expatriate majority. The case is getting coverage in the local press.
It also highlights the taboos surrounding H.I.V. and homosexuality that Dubai residents say have allowed rampant harassment of gays and have encouraged the health system to treat H.I.V. virtually in secret. (Under Emirates law, foreigners with H.I.V., or those convicted of homosexual activity, are deported.)
Prosecutors here reject such accusations. “The legal and judicial system in the United Arab Emirates makes no distinction between nationals and non-nationals,” said Khalifa Rashid Bin Demas, head of the Dubai attorney general’s technical office, in an interview. “All residents are treated equally.”
Dubai’s economic miracle — decades of double-digit growth spurred by investors, foreign companies, and workers drawn to the tax-free Emirates — depends on millions of foreigners, working jobs from construction to senior positions in finance. Even many of the criminal court lawyers are foreigners.
Alex’s case has raised diplomatic tensions between the Emirates and France, which has lodged official complaints about the apparent cover-up of one assailant’s H.I.V. status and other irregularities. The tension and growing publicity over the case seem to have prompted the authorities to take action.
Mr. Demas, from the Dubai attorney general’s office, said he had no intention of prosecuting Alex and was seeking the death penalty for the two adult attackers. “This crime is an outrage against society,” he said.
However, the investigation file in Alex’s case and a pair of confidential French diplomatic cables obtained by The New York Times confirm the accounts of inexplicable and at times hostile official behavior described by Alex and his parents.
“The grave deficiencies or incoherence of the investigation appear to result, in part, from gross incompetence of the services involved in the United Arab Emirates, but also from the moral, pseudoscientific and political prejudices which undoubtedly influenced the inquiry,” the French ambassador to the United Arab Emirates wrote in a confidential cable dated Sept. 6.
Most infuriating to Alex and his mother, Véronique Robert, is that police inaccurately informed French diplomats on Aug. 15, a month after the assault, that the three attackers were disease-free, the diplomats say. Only at the end of August did the family learn that that the 36-year-old assailant was H.I.V. positive. The case file contains a positive H.I.V. test for the convict dated March 26, 2003.
“They lied to us,” Ms. Robert said. “Now the Damocles sword of AIDS hangs over Alex.”
So far the teenager has not tested positive for H.I.V., but he will not know for sure until January, when he gets another blood test six months after the exposure.
A doctor examined Alex the night of the rape, taking swabs of DNA for traces of the rapists’ sperm. He did not take blood tests or examine Alex with a speculum. Then he cleared the room and told Alex: “I know you’re a homosexual. You can admit it to me. I can tell.”
Alex told his father in tears: “I’ve just been raped by three men, and he’s saying I’m a homosexual,” according to interviews with both of them.
The doctor, an Egyptian, wrote in his legal report that he had found no evidence of forced penetration, which Alex’s family says is a false assessment that could hurt the case against the assailants.
In early September, after the family learned about the older attacker’s H.I.V. status and the French government lodged complaints with the United Arab Emirates authorities, the Dubai attorney general’s office assigned a new prosecutor to the case. Only then were forensic tests performed to confirm that sperm from all three attackers had been found in Alex.
Alex stayed in Dubai in order to testify against his attackers, and went back to school in September, despite suffering unsettling flashbacks.
In early October, however, the family said, their lawyer warned Alex that he was in danger of facing charges of homosexuality and a prison term of one year.
Veteran lawyers here say the justice system is evolving, like the country’s entire system of governance that has blossomed as the economy and population have exploded in just a few decades. Despite its shortfalls, the United Arab Emirates have combined Islamic values with the best practices from the West to create “the most modern legal system among the Arab countries,” said Salim Al Shaali, a former police officer and prosecutor who now practices criminal law.
In business and finance, the nation has worked hard to earn a reputation for impartial and speedy justice. But the criminal justice system has struggled, balancing a penal code rooted in conservative Arab and Islamic local culture, applied to an overwhelming non-Arab population of foreign residents.
A 42-year-old gay businessman who would speak only if identified by his nickname, Ko, described routine sexual harassment by officials during his 13 years living in Dubai. He cut his shoulder-length hair to avoid attention, he said, but after years of living in fear of jail or deportation, he is leaving the country.
Although rape victims here generally keep quiet, some who have been raped in Dubai have shared testimonials in recent days on boycottdubai.com, a Web site started by Alex’s mother.
Prosecutors moved forward with the case against her son’s attackers only as a result of public pressure and diplomatic complaints, Ms. Robert believes. Now, she hopes, the attention could prompt more humane and even-handed justice for future rape victims here.
On advice of his lawyer and French diplomats, Alex says he will not return to Dubai but wants very much for the men to be convicted.
“Sometimes you feel crazy, you know?” he said. “It’s hard, but we have to be strong. I’m doing this for all the other poor kids who got raped and couldn’t do anything about it.”
In Rape Case, a French Youth Takes On Dubai
Bryan Denton for The New York Times
The rape of a 15-year-old French boy in a remote patch of desert outside of Dubai has raised questions about how the country’s legal system treats foreigners.
By THANASSIS CAMBANIS
Published: November 1, 2007
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates, Oct. 31 — Alexandre Robert, a French 15-year-old, was having a fine summer in this tourist paradise on the Persian Gulf. It was Bastille Day and he and a classmate had escaped the July heat at the beach for an air-conditioned arcade.
Just after sunset, Alex says he was rushing to meet his father for dinner when he bumped into an acquaintance, a 17-year-old native-born student at the American school, who said he and his cousin could drop Alex off at home.
There were, in fact, three Emirati men in the car, including a pair of former convicts ages 35 and 18, according to Alex. He says they drove him past his house and into a dark patch of desert, between a row of new villas and a power plant, took away his cellphone, threatened him with a knife and a club, and told him they would kill his family if he ever reported them.
Then they stripped off his pants and one by one sodomized him in the back seat of the car. They dumped Alex across from one of Dubai’s luxury hotel towers.
Alex and his family were about to learn that despite Dubai’s status as the Arab world’s paragon of modernity and wealth, and its well-earned reputation for protecting foreign investors, its criminal legal system remains a perilous gantlet when it comes to homosexuality and protection of foreigners.
The authorities not only discouraged Alex from pressing charges, he, his family and French diplomats say; they raised the possibility of charging him with criminal homosexual activity, and neglected for weeks to inform him or his parents that one of his attackers had tested H.I.V. positive while in prison four years earlier.
“They tried to smother this story,” Alex said by phone from Switzerland, where he fled a month into his 10th-grade school year, fearing a jail term in Dubai if charged with homosexual activity. “Dubai, they say we build the highest towers, they have the best hotels. But all the news, they hide it. They don’t want the world to know that Dubai still lives in the Middle Ages.”
Alex and his parents say they chose to go public with his case in the hope that it would press the authorities to prosecute the men.
United Arab Emirates law does not recognize rape of males, only a crime called “forced homosexuality.” The two adult men charged with sexually assaulting Alex have pleaded not guilty, although sperm from all three were found in Alex. The two adults appeared in court on Wednesday and were appointed a lawyer. They face trial before a three-judge panel on Nov. 7. The third, a minor, will be tried in juvenile court. Legal experts here say that men convicted of sexually assaulting other men usually serve sentences ranging from a few months to two years.
Dubai is a bustling financial and tourist center, one of seven states that form the United Arab Emirates. At least 90 percent of the residents of Dubai are not Emirati citizens and many say that Alex’s Kafkaesque legal journey brings into sharp relief questions about unequal treatment of foreigners here that have long been quietly raised among the expatriate majority. The case is getting coverage in the local press.
It also highlights the taboos surrounding H.I.V. and homosexuality that Dubai residents say have allowed rampant harassment of gays and have encouraged the health system to treat H.I.V. virtually in secret. (Under Emirates law, foreigners with H.I.V., or those convicted of homosexual activity, are deported.)
Prosecutors here reject such accusations. “The legal and judicial system in the United Arab Emirates makes no distinction between nationals and non-nationals,” said Khalifa Rashid Bin Demas, head of the Dubai attorney general’s technical office, in an interview. “All residents are treated equally.”
Dubai’s economic miracle — decades of double-digit growth spurred by investors, foreign companies, and workers drawn to the tax-free Emirates — depends on millions of foreigners, working jobs from construction to senior positions in finance. Even many of the criminal court lawyers are foreigners.
Alex’s case has raised diplomatic tensions between the Emirates and France, which has lodged official complaints about the apparent cover-up of one assailant’s H.I.V. status and other irregularities. The tension and growing publicity over the case seem to have prompted the authorities to take action.
Mr. Demas, from the Dubai attorney general’s office, said he had no intention of prosecuting Alex and was seeking the death penalty for the two adult attackers. “This crime is an outrage against society,” he said.
However, the investigation file in Alex’s case and a pair of confidential French diplomatic cables obtained by The New York Times confirm the accounts of inexplicable and at times hostile official behavior described by Alex and his parents.
“The grave deficiencies or incoherence of the investigation appear to result, in part, from gross incompetence of the services involved in the United Arab Emirates, but also from the moral, pseudoscientific and political prejudices which undoubtedly influenced the inquiry,” the French ambassador to the United Arab Emirates wrote in a confidential cable dated Sept. 6.
Most infuriating to Alex and his mother, Véronique Robert, is that police inaccurately informed French diplomats on Aug. 15, a month after the assault, that the three attackers were disease-free, the diplomats say. Only at the end of August did the family learn that that the 36-year-old assailant was H.I.V. positive. The case file contains a positive H.I.V. test for the convict dated March 26, 2003.
“They lied to us,” Ms. Robert said. “Now the Damocles sword of AIDS hangs over Alex.”
So far the teenager has not tested positive for H.I.V., but he will not know for sure until January, when he gets another blood test six months after the exposure.
A doctor examined Alex the night of the rape, taking swabs of DNA for traces of the rapists’ sperm. He did not take blood tests or examine Alex with a speculum. Then he cleared the room and told Alex: “I know you’re a homosexual. You can admit it to me. I can tell.”
Alex told his father in tears: “I’ve just been raped by three men, and he’s saying I’m a homosexual,” according to interviews with both of them.
The doctor, an Egyptian, wrote in his legal report that he had found no evidence of forced penetration, which Alex’s family says is a false assessment that could hurt the case against the assailants.
In early September, after the family learned about the older attacker’s H.I.V. status and the French government lodged complaints with the United Arab Emirates authorities, the Dubai attorney general’s office assigned a new prosecutor to the case. Only then were forensic tests performed to confirm that sperm from all three attackers had been found in Alex.
Alex stayed in Dubai in order to testify against his attackers, and went back to school in September, despite suffering unsettling flashbacks.
In early October, however, the family said, their lawyer warned Alex that he was in danger of facing charges of homosexuality and a prison term of one year.
Veteran lawyers here say the justice system is evolving, like the country’s entire system of governance that has blossomed as the economy and population have exploded in just a few decades. Despite its shortfalls, the United Arab Emirates have combined Islamic values with the best practices from the West to create “the most modern legal system among the Arab countries,” said Salim Al Shaali, a former police officer and prosecutor who now practices criminal law.
In business and finance, the nation has worked hard to earn a reputation for impartial and speedy justice. But the criminal justice system has struggled, balancing a penal code rooted in conservative Arab and Islamic local culture, applied to an overwhelming non-Arab population of foreign residents.
A 42-year-old gay businessman who would speak only if identified by his nickname, Ko, described routine sexual harassment by officials during his 13 years living in Dubai. He cut his shoulder-length hair to avoid attention, he said, but after years of living in fear of jail or deportation, he is leaving the country.
Although rape victims here generally keep quiet, some who have been raped in Dubai have shared testimonials in recent days on boycottdubai.com, a Web site started by Alex’s mother.
Prosecutors moved forward with the case against her son’s attackers only as a result of public pressure and diplomatic complaints, Ms. Robert believes. Now, she hopes, the attention could prompt more humane and even-handed justice for future rape victims here.
On advice of his lawyer and French diplomats, Alex says he will not return to Dubai but wants very much for the men to be convicted.
“Sometimes you feel crazy, you know?” he said. “It’s hard, but we have to be strong. I’m doing this for all the other poor kids who got raped and couldn’t do anything about it.”
#32 Posted by bulleya on October 31, 2007 10:46:27 pm
....i have been spending quite a bit of time in uae lately......it is now basically an extension of the indian market for IT services......and it is investing quite heavily in pakistan.......
......perhaps uae would be a good model for pakistan, as far as de-centralization goes....uae consists of seven emirates......together, they form a country, uae......however, each emirate has its own sheikh, who runs it any way he wants......
.....the central govt. only has a few things in its control....a common currency, a common defence force and a few other items....other that that, everything is decided by the ruling sheikh.......this includes cultural issues also.......one emirate allows alcohol, the other doesn't....one is conservative the other is liberal......one is westernised, the other is traditional.....
......each emirate has its own rules and laws.....traffic departments, police (?).....even the taxi cabs look different in each emirate.......one emirate has an economy based on services, the other on oil and a third on real estate.......
.....yet one can drive between emirates seamlessly.......and one can shift homes and jobs also......the visa one gets is for all of uae.......
........perhaps this is what pakistan needs.....delegate all power to the provinces......the central govt. should only have defence and currency and foreign affairs.......in fact, the federal govt. should be just a combination of the heads of the provincial chief ministers, who should appoint one as the prime minister - a position which should rotate between all provinces......(in uae, the head of abu dhabi is always the prime minister of uae, since abu dhabi is, by far, the wealthiest and largest emirate)........
.......each province should have its own culture, policies etc........nwfp could implement shariah, while punjab could be somewhere in the middle, and sind could be more liberal......
......this would make it easy for the citizens.....if someone in karachi wants shariah, they can just move to peshawar, instead of trying to convert karachi into a shariah based state.......if someone in peshawar wants a more liberal lifestyle they can move to karachi, instead of trying to convert nwfp to a westernized area.......
......perhaps uae would be a good model for pakistan, as far as de-centralization goes....uae consists of seven emirates......together, they form a country, uae......however, each emirate has its own sheikh, who runs it any way he wants......
.....the central govt. only has a few things in its control....a common currency, a common defence force and a few other items....other that that, everything is decided by the ruling sheikh.......this includes cultural issues also.......one emirate allows alcohol, the other doesn't....one is conservative the other is liberal......one is westernised, the other is traditional.....
......each emirate has its own rules and laws.....traffic departments, police (?).....even the taxi cabs look different in each emirate.......one emirate has an economy based on services, the other on oil and a third on real estate.......
.....yet one can drive between emirates seamlessly.......and one can shift homes and jobs also......the visa one gets is for all of uae.......
........perhaps this is what pakistan needs.....delegate all power to the provinces......the central govt. should only have defence and currency and foreign affairs.......in fact, the federal govt. should be just a combination of the heads of the provincial chief ministers, who should appoint one as the prime minister - a position which should rotate between all provinces......(in uae, the head of abu dhabi is always the prime minister of uae, since abu dhabi is, by far, the wealthiest and largest emirate)........
.......each province should have its own culture, policies etc........nwfp could implement shariah, while punjab could be somewhere in the middle, and sind could be more liberal......
......this would make it easy for the citizens.....if someone in karachi wants shariah, they can just move to peshawar, instead of trying to convert karachi into a shariah based state.......if someone in peshawar wants a more liberal lifestyle they can move to karachi, instead of trying to convert nwfp to a westernized area.......
#31 Posted by devkant on October 31, 2007 10:05:07 pm
arre baba....all those getting excited about cyclone please note that the place has shut down. now whether it is temporary or permanent is anyone's guess. they shut it after the tiffany hiest in june / july this year when jewellery worth USD 20 mn was looted in full public view. those thieves even gave poses for the security cameras!!!!!
#30 Posted by zeemax on October 31, 2007 9:18:11 pm
#20 Posted by hamidm2 Re: # 19
... the cyclone club also offers muslima concubines at an hourly rate from iran, lebanon, egypt, syria, and morocco ....
Yeah I suppose the competition between the kafirs and the kanjars is intense!
... the cyclone club also offers muslima concubines at an hourly rate from iran, lebanon, egypt, syria, and morocco ....
Yeah I suppose the competition between the kafirs and the kanjars is intense!
#29 Posted by arjun6 on October 31, 2007 10:47:32 am
The momin are mad because a city run by who they would call a kanjaroon and liberaloon is doing so well.
#28 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:47:29 am
masadi #26: So this is the thanks I get for questioning allegations that you are not a genius?
#27 Posted by masadi on October 31, 2007 10:33:44 am
Good night everyone. If you do not see any of my posts here tomorrow, it will be because one of these morons has got me banned...
#26 Posted by masadi on October 31, 2007 10:32:48 am
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#25 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:29:58 am
hamidm #23 Are you insinuating that Masadi is not a genius?
#24 Posted by tahmed32 on October 31, 2007 10:29:47 am
hamidm #23 Are you insinuating that Masadi is not a genius?
#23 Posted by hamidm2 on October 31, 2007 10:25:29 am
masadi,
you claim, "I have established myself here on Chowk" ..... uh?..... established yourself as what? .....
#22 Posted by masadi on October 31, 2007 10:17:34 am
In #21 read "Nobody thinks much not even a retard of someone whose "meat" in the argument is "literature written and results produced" (period) while have knowledge of neither the literature nor the results. Should I laugh at this moron or pity his narrow minded existance? "
as
"Nobody thinks much not even a retard of someone whose "meat" in the argument is "literature written and results produced" (period) while having knowledge of neither the literature nor the results. Should I laugh at this moron or pity his narrow minded existance? "
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In fact read it one more time that way you might understand this dimwit rf better.
as
"Nobody thinks much not even a retard of someone whose "meat" in the argument is "literature written and results produced" (period) while having knowledge of neither the literature nor the results. Should I laugh at this moron or pity his narrow minded existance? "
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In fact read it one more time that way you might understand this dimwit rf better.
#21 Posted by masadi on October 31, 2007 10:15:33 am
rf (rat's fart) writes " self righteous pomposity. No one gives a ratass what u know or how much, "
Self-righteous or not (somehow the enslaved minds always consider exposing the mentality of their masters , "self righteous"), I have established myself here on Chowk, and just because you don't possess enough brain matter to comprehend what I write does not mean others don't value it. Nobody thinks much not even a retard of someone whose "meat" in the argument is "literature written and results produced" (period) while have knowledge of neither the literature nor the results. Should I laugh at this moron or pity his narrow minded existance?
Self-righteous or not (somehow the enslaved minds always consider exposing the mentality of their masters , "self righteous"), I have established myself here on Chowk, and just because you don't possess enough brain matter to comprehend what I write does not mean others don't value it. Nobody thinks much not even a retard of someone whose "meat" in the argument is "literature written and results produced" (period) while have knowledge of neither the literature nor the results. Should I laugh at this moron or pity his narrow minded existance?
#20 Posted by hamidm2 on October 31, 2007 10:01:34 am
Re: # 19
zeemax
"official import of hookers from ex-soviet states/China to beat Bangkok"
... don't despair ... the cyclone club also offers muslima concubines at an hourly rate from iran, lebanon, egypt, syria, and morocco .... and acording to the hadith and sunnah, it is perfectly kosher if you are a two day camel ride away from home .... bon appetit !
zeemax
"official import of hookers from ex-soviet states/China to beat Bangkok"
... don't despair ... the cyclone club also offers muslima concubines at an hourly rate from iran, lebanon, egypt, syria, and morocco .... and acording to the hadith and sunnah, it is perfectly kosher if you are a two day camel ride away from home .... bon appetit !
#19 Posted by zeemax on October 31, 2007 8:42:01 am
Pretty good description of Sheikh Rashid bin Al-Maktoum and Dubai. One thing is missed though and that is the British management / administrative expertise relieved from handover of Hong Kong back to China and snapped up by Sheikh Rashid. That played a big part.
Second is the laissez faire atmosphere as long you don't break any traffic lights - for an expatriate/tourist lifestyle, including nightlife to beat Singapore/Hong Kong hands down, plus official import of hookers from ex-soviet states/China to beat Bangkok.
Second is the laissez faire atmosphere as long you don't break any traffic lights - for an expatriate/tourist lifestyle, including nightlife to beat Singapore/Hong Kong hands down, plus official import of hookers from ex-soviet states/China to beat Bangkok.
#18 Posted by rf786 on October 31, 2007 7:34:04 am
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#17 Posted by masadi on October 31, 2007 6:51:52 am
rf (rat's fart) writes "Now we have to believe the idiot (chutya) and disregard global economic prosperity achieved, economic and financial literature produced and the fact that socialist/communist states (India/China)have reversed their policies in favor of capitalism"
What a totally moronic argument. When stumped by facts retort with "literature has been written and results produced" without knowing either the literature or the results. No results have been produced except increased disparity between rich and poor and no literature has been produced except for apologetics for setting up dummy fronts and corporations (in the Cayman Islands) to launder bribes and dirty money as the government sets up privitization deals, which ever since the murder of ZAB have been carrying on in Pakistan but have produced ZERO results regarding economic development for the very poor. Regarding India and China, they are leeching off the human resource developement that occurred in their socialist/nationalism era, not to forget that the Western industry itself has reached this level due to maximum protection (including wholesale wipe out of the competitors by colonization, as in the case of India)of its own industry from competition as it was developing roots.
Then,he writes "As for the sovereignity status, there is no argument since your entire thesis is based on hatred towards the US. "
Very easy to dismiss your opponents facts by saying you hate such and so, hate has nothing to do with it, I know the US better than you will ever know, I have dealt with its people more than and better than you will ever deal, and I can guarantee u their masses understand what I say much better than they understand you BS, that said, understanding the global setup, where policieis of the US elite rule, which have produced visible results that are killing our people and the people of the third world, including your relatives as well, amounts to love for humanity and not hate for the US...get that master moron?
What a totally moronic argument. When stumped by facts retort with "literature has been written and results produced" without knowing either the literature or the results. No results have been produced except increased disparity between rich and poor and no literature has been produced except for apologetics for setting up dummy fronts and corporations (in the Cayman Islands) to launder bribes and dirty money as the government sets up privitization deals, which ever since the murder of ZAB have been carrying on in Pakistan but have produced ZERO results regarding economic development for the very poor. Regarding India and China, they are leeching off the human resource developement that occurred in their socialist/nationalism era, not to forget that the Western industry itself has reached this level due to maximum protection (including wholesale wipe out of the competitors by colonization, as in the case of India)of its own industry from competition as it was developing roots.
Then,he writes "As for the sovereignity status, there is no argument since your entire thesis is based on hatred towards the US. "
Very easy to dismiss your opponents facts by saying you hate such and so, hate has nothing to do with it, I know the US better than you will ever know, I have dealt with its people more than and better than you will ever deal, and I can guarantee u their masses understand what I say much better than they understand you BS, that said, understanding the global setup, where policieis of the US elite rule, which have produced visible results that are killing our people and the people of the third world, including your relatives as well, amounts to love for humanity and not hate for the US...get that master moron?
#16 Posted by rf786 on October 31, 2007 2:01:46 am
Re: # 14
You do not care much for basic etiquette's, I will henceforth address u in the same manner.
Chutyam Sulphate writes: "Nationalization did not prevent economic progress, it increased employment, which would eventually have produced a better more literate workforce if it was allowed."
Now we have to believe the idiot (chutya) and disregard global economic prosperity achieved, economic and financial literature produced and the fact that socialist/communist states (India/China)have reversed their policies in favor of capitalism.
Village idiot adds: "What has privitization that has been going on unabated since the Zia era achieved for Pakistan? Nothing, even greater poverty and unemployment and an illiterate unskilled workforce that lives below the margins."
Zia's privatization policy? What u mean is dishing out loans to his cronies, writing off bank loans and selling nationalized units to the army welfare authorities. And u call that privatization? Get your facts straight and your head out of your ass. As for the skilled workforce, well u can thank the great leader for his policies of favoring labor over capitalism and nationalization of education.
the broken record continues: "Regarding Dubai, it is a state of the US and not an independant entity."
What Sh Mohammad (Dubai) has achieved u or your entire nasal can never achieve. As for the sovereignity status, there is no argument since your entire thesis is based on hatred towards the US.
You do not care much for basic etiquette's, I will henceforth address u in the same manner.
Chutyam Sulphate writes: "Nationalization did not prevent economic progress, it increased employment, which would eventually have produced a better more literate workforce if it was allowed."
Now we have to believe the idiot (chutya) and disregard global economic prosperity achieved, economic and financial literature produced and the fact that socialist/communist states (India/China)have reversed their policies in favor of capitalism.
Village idiot adds: "What has privitization that has been going on unabated since the Zia era achieved for Pakistan? Nothing, even greater poverty and unemployment and an illiterate unskilled workforce that lives below the margins."
Zia's privatization policy? What u mean is dishing out loans to his cronies, writing off bank loans and selling nationalized units to the army welfare authorities. And u call that privatization? Get your facts straight and your head out of your ass. As for the skilled workforce, well u can thank the great leader for his policies of favoring labor over capitalism and nationalization of education.
the broken record continues: "Regarding Dubai, it is a state of the US and not an independant entity."
What Sh Mohammad (Dubai) has achieved u or your entire nasal can never achieve. As for the sovereignity status, there is no argument since your entire thesis is based on hatred towards the US.
#15 Posted by jayp on October 31, 2007 1:56:52 am
This is a good article as though it is an option for other muslim countries. Dubai has less than a million locals and four times outside workers. The locals do not want to work and live of the "rent:
" paid by others. Then there is teh petro dollar supporting teh constructions.
For the pakistanis, the most relevant is the emergence of a dead general walking, the general who was incharge of lal masjid is doomed to be the victim of a jihadic killing.
Already there are reports of dessertion in the pak army, soldiers not ready to finght and the last so called functioning institution of pakistan is on life support
" paid by others. Then there is teh petro dollar supporting teh constructions.
For the pakistanis, the most relevant is the emergence of a dead general walking, the general who was incharge of lal masjid is doomed to be the victim of a jihadic killing.
Already there are reports of dessertion in the pak army, soldiers not ready to finght and the last so called functioning institution of pakistan is on life support
#14 Posted by masadi on October 31, 2007 1:21:33 am
rf writes "ZA Bhutto who sealed pakistan's fate by his nationalization policies back in the seventies that completly destroyed any chance of economic progress."
Once again the idiot writes.Nationalization did not prevent economic progress, it increased employment, which would eventually have produced a better more literate workforce if it was allowed. What has privitization that has been going on unabated since the Zia era achieved for Pakistan? Nothing, even greater poverty and unemployment and an illiterate unskilled workforce that lives below the margins. Get your facts straigt. Regarding Dubai, it is a state of the US and not an independant entity. In the troubled waters of the ME (where the trouble and the structure of that place was the result of colonial and now American policies, due in large part to oil resources) such "safe havens" have been created by these elite for their various uses, as military bases, take the example of Qatar and Kuwait or for resource and financial theft of the third world, take the case of Dubai, or to keep the entire Middle East in check, take the case of Israel....Karachi would never be allowed to become a Dubai, even on auto pilot without intereference it would exceeded Dubai but it did not due to deliberate design of those that have been dictating and determining our domestic and foreign policies through the Pakistan Army...
Once again the idiot writes.Nationalization did not prevent economic progress, it increased employment, which would eventually have produced a better more literate workforce if it was allowed. What has privitization that has been going on unabated since the Zia era achieved for Pakistan? Nothing, even greater poverty and unemployment and an illiterate unskilled workforce that lives below the margins. Get your facts straigt. Regarding Dubai, it is a state of the US and not an independant entity. In the troubled waters of the ME (where the trouble and the structure of that place was the result of colonial and now American policies, due in large part to oil resources) such "safe havens" have been created by these elite for their various uses, as military bases, take the example of Qatar and Kuwait or for resource and financial theft of the third world, take the case of Dubai, or to keep the entire Middle East in check, take the case of Israel....Karachi would never be allowed to become a Dubai, even on auto pilot without intereference it would exceeded Dubai but it did not due to deliberate design of those that have been dictating and determining our domestic and foreign policies through the Pakistan Army...
#13 Posted by laddu on October 31, 2007 12:50:12 am
Re: # 3
Dubai is a criminal land , a place to commit economic Jehad against kafir lands. It is the place where criminality of muslims is at its full flourish. You just pay a Jizya to the local sheikh (viz make him a sleeping partner) and commit all sorts of international economic invoice manipulation , cash transactions, illegal money laundrying, hawala , payment for narco-arms smuggling, IPR violation etc. again against the non-muslims.
This place should be hot on the list and closely watched by the world community for its future role in the over all international Jehad.
Dubai is a criminal land , a place to commit economic Jehad against kafir lands. It is the place where criminality of muslims is at its full flourish. You just pay a Jizya to the local sheikh (viz make him a sleeping partner) and commit all sorts of international economic invoice manipulation , cash transactions, illegal money laundrying, hawala , payment for narco-arms smuggling, IPR violation etc. again against the non-muslims.
This place should be hot on the list and closely watched by the world community for its future role in the over all international Jehad.
#12 Posted by devkant on October 31, 2007 12:31:29 am
i live in dubai and believe me the place is not as good as it is being made out to be. some of the problems: -
1) It is completely artificial. i don't think anyone can relate to it, even the locals.
2) Labourers are exploited mercilessly. all the talk of id day break etc is fine. someone pls do a reality check on their salaries.
3) Racism, though subtle is pretty much thriving in dubai.
4) living costs have increased by more than 50 to 70% in the llast 2 to 3 years. prices of daily groceries and provisions are increasing needlessly.
5) its best not to talk about the print and visual media here. since i come from india, i find the standards of television and print journalism appaling.
6) the telecom company here etisalat prides itself on being an extremely hi tech co. their techies need to just hop across the arabian sea to take a look at the telecom industry in india and compare the levels of service, costs and technology. etisalat guys will have to run for cover.
7) they have formed a new telecom company called du to give competition to etisalat which was the sole telecome provider for over 30 yrs. however, when du was launched, the sheikh incharge for telecom said that du and etisalat will not compete on costs, but only services!!!! who the 'F' cares about services when costs are so high.
there r many more, but lets stick to these for the timebeing.
1) It is completely artificial. i don't think anyone can relate to it, even the locals.
2) Labourers are exploited mercilessly. all the talk of id day break etc is fine. someone pls do a reality check on their salaries.
3) Racism, though subtle is pretty much thriving in dubai.
4) living costs have increased by more than 50 to 70% in the llast 2 to 3 years. prices of daily groceries and provisions are increasing needlessly.
5) its best not to talk about the print and visual media here. since i come from india, i find the standards of television and print journalism appaling.
6) the telecom company here etisalat prides itself on being an extremely hi tech co. their techies need to just hop across the arabian sea to take a look at the telecom industry in india and compare the levels of service, costs and technology. etisalat guys will have to run for cover.
7) they have formed a new telecom company called du to give competition to etisalat which was the sole telecome provider for over 30 yrs. however, when du was launched, the sheikh incharge for telecom said that du and etisalat will not compete on costs, but only services!!!! who the 'F' cares about services when costs are so high.
there r many more, but lets stick to these for the timebeing.
#11 Posted by Ranjit on October 30, 2007 11:57:36 pm
Imagine the world if all muslim countries became like Dubai - what an awesome place it would be. Thats the way life should be where people are happy, making money, tolerating each other and exercising their freedom. Dubai gives Islam a good name because it shows that muslim countries can also be vibrant open societies if there is willpower. I would say that far more people would be attracted to Dubai style Islam rather than than the Taliban style Islam which is a morbid, dreadful, miserable and sickening practice of the religion.
#10 Posted by majumdar on October 30, 2007 10:30:53 pm
Nabendu,
(The newly set-up Diamond Exchange in Dubai was getting few takers. The target audience, diamond dealers from India, stayed away. The CEO enquired as to the reason. The answer was : these people are Jains, and they want a Jain temple. There is no Temple. The next day there was a Jain temple, and the diamond dealers came. The diamond exchange is now vibrant.)
Wait till Maulana Urstruly (pbuh) and Zeemax read this.
Regards
(The newly set-up Diamond Exchange in Dubai was getting few takers. The target audience, diamond dealers from India, stayed away. The CEO enquired as to the reason. The answer was : these people are Jains, and they want a Jain temple. There is no Temple. The next day there was a Jain temple, and the diamond dealers came. The diamond exchange is now vibrant.)
Wait till Maulana Urstruly (pbuh) and Zeemax read this.
Regards
#9 Posted by borivili_express on October 30, 2007 10:13:12 pm
Nabendu will Dubai survive an Iran - US conflict?
#8 Posted by rf786 on October 30, 2007 9:48:51 pm
Dubai has always been a trading port, oil was a temporary phenomena in their history. Granted, early days trading activity can be questioned as dubious but the recent surge in growth is not only impressive but worth case study for academics.
As for the ever so stereotypical slant against Karachi, we should remember that it was ZA Bhutto who sealed pakistan's fate by his nationalization policies back in the seventies that completly destroyed any chance of economic progress. Blaming Mqm or other small time thugs is symptomatic of of narrow minded, shallow experiences that have no economic or factual grounding.
As for the ever so stereotypical slant against Karachi, we should remember that it was ZA Bhutto who sealed pakistan's fate by his nationalization policies back in the seventies that completly destroyed any chance of economic progress. Blaming Mqm or other small time thugs is symptomatic of of narrow minded, shallow experiences that have no economic or factual grounding.
#7 Posted by ahmedmadani on October 30, 2007 9:05:56 pm
Re: # 6 Please do not blame MQM for all peoblems. Honestly all problems are due to majority retards despite of MQM hardships and brains. Others are Punbjis, sindhi,...and all retards only pakistanis by default are MQM only. Theuy believe in Pakistan not in Punjab, sindh etc. Mqm are true pakistani at heart but others are blowing pipelines of gas, railway still they are never blamed for problems. W.Stan is not MQM country. In karachi AH will not allow Talibans and so they live in lands of Punjab etc where they find sympathy and help.MQM supreme leadership will not allow what is going in W.Stan in Karachi. So karchi will be always safe and good. Instead of blaming MQM all times its critiques should learn political lessons from AH. Please stop snide remarks against good lae abiding anti terror people. If rulers had listened to AH we never would have to such low level. Hope BB does not repay with revenge when MQM could have banned her coming and punctured her wheels. Now some people even if MQM was involved. BB is known for repaying with bad stuff who helped her. Please do not say bad things about MQM and Supreme leader. Good day. If money taken of Karachi is given to MQM will make Karachi far better than Dubai.
#6 Posted by tahmed32 on October 30, 2007 7:57:15 pm
ahmedmadani: dubai is filling the niche that karachi would have filled had it not been for mqm and the petty-minded ethnic politics of karachi. so instead of trying to find fault with it, learn something from it.
#5 Posted by tahmed32 on October 30, 2007 7:55:02 pm
Excellent analysis of how Dubai has risen from a boondock to arguably the hottest spot development-wise in the world today. And this in the heart of the world's biggest trouble spot, the middle east!!
#4 Posted by ahmedmadani on October 30, 2007 7:31:22 pm
The Swiss bank allows ill gotten wealth kept in secret. As safe keeping instead of giving interest they cut 2% money as fee. Many times ill gooten wealth can not be claimed as it is exposed and scandal and then that amount goes to swiss king. As this has been happening for hundreds of years he is richest king. Also like if not claimed by palace by BB it would have gone to english crown ? Is it true ? Thanks in advance.
#3 Posted by ahmedmadani on October 30, 2007 6:42:10 pm
Re: # 2 Dubai acts as smuggling place. Traders book goods like tire . medicine, textile machinary from some bogus import/export houses and that way indian goods smuggled detrimental to our manufactures. It has become port of smuggling goods for indians and chinese in pakistan detrimental to industry.
#2 Posted by ahmedmadani on October 30, 2007 6:38:14 pm
Re: # 1 You have right feeling. That is reason daughter of east lived in island.
#1 Posted by Urstruly on October 30, 2007 12:14:03 pm
It is all very convincing but why do I have a feeling that Dubai at its core is the world's largest money laundering racket. I think this racket has been established to give an impression to the oil rich sheikhs, big and small, of the region that somehow their non-existent petrodollar money is safe.
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