Saeed Minhas September 4, 2007
#127 Posted by KaalChakra on September 4, 2007 1:11:10 pm
tahmed32
LOL, I can neither spell nor write correctly, but anyway, here it is -
1. HP thinks it is a RAW job.
2. Stuka argued that "Muslim fundamentalists" won't collaborate with Hindus or Indians.
3. I tried to show that people who are most likely to be accused of being RAW agents are Mohajirs, who are not "Islamic fundamentalists".
Now, if it is not true that mohajirs are more likely to be acused of being Indian/Hindu agents than are other Pakistani ethnicities, then I obviously got that wrong.
LOL, I can neither spell nor write correctly, but anyway, here it is -
1. HP thinks it is a RAW job.
2. Stuka argued that "Muslim fundamentalists" won't collaborate with Hindus or Indians.
3. I tried to show that people who are most likely to be accused of being RAW agents are Mohajirs, who are not "Islamic fundamentalists".
Now, if it is not true that mohajirs are more likely to be acused of being Indian/Hindu agents than are other Pakistani ethnicities, then I obviously got that wrong.
#126 Posted by masadi on September 4, 2007 1:10:39 pm
In addition to that let me add this to Okhla:
"Does that answer your 9/11 question you little rat? And what can your brilliant mind offer us as "proof" that the official tale is true"
Hmmm let me see, "People saw planes flying into buildings,..and they did it."
Yeah....very convenient....
"Does that answer your 9/11 question you little rat? And what can your brilliant mind offer us as "proof" that the official tale is true"
Hmmm let me see, "People saw planes flying into buildings,..and they did it."
Yeah....very convenient....
#125 Posted by masadi on September 4, 2007 1:06:25 pm
Okhla #115, try to form a coherent sentence that is devoid of personal attacks that are based on lies, and then we can discuss stuff. That the 9/11 official "fairy story" is not Gospel-Truth was even acknowledged by the 9/11 commission, that is why the need for a commission. That the commission itself published a report that talked about deliberate facilitation on multiple counts by the authorities tells us that something fishy was going on, not to mention that minds better than yours have come up with multiple facts and proof that force every thinking mind to question what went on. Bush or the US govt that has lied on multiple occassions does not even possess the authority (let alone the competence) for anyone to accept what they say as "Gospel Truth". Comprendey or is that too hard for you to understand?
#124 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 1:06:24 pm
HP: You say this is a RAW job. Masadi says this is a CIA job. Zeemax says this is a lal masjid job.
Who is a man to believe anymore when Inspector Clouseau says one thing and Sherlock Holmes says something else and Hercule Poirot says something else. :-(
Who is a man to believe anymore when Inspector Clouseau says one thing and Sherlock Holmes says something else and Hercule Poirot says something else. :-(
#123 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 1:03:28 pm
Kaal #120 and your high flying sarcasms didnt answer my question either. :-(
#122 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 1:02:28 pm
Kaal #120 Please write simple english. These high-flying sarcasms are beyond my simple brain.
yeh ganga ram ki samajh mai na aai.
yeh ganga ram ki samajh mai na aai.
#121 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 1:00:10 pm
hamidm #112 "with us or against us"
Please stop acting like Bush and Zeemax.
Please stop acting like Bush and Zeemax.
#120 Posted by KaalChakra on September 4, 2007 12:59:57 pm
abu bhai, as a UPite I naturally sympathize with mohajirs (but those are just that, vague historical sympathies). I also know that mohajir commitment to the idea and safety of Pakistan, cannot be less than anyone else's, if not more (for all sorts of historical and ideological reasons).
But you know how prejudices work. All of us have them.
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tahmed32, just continuing to rub it in, to my friend HP and his raw thinking on this matter :)
From what I can tell, few Pakistanis buy that theory, which is a great sign of maturity for Paksitani people in general. We in India haven't reach there. Perhas our situation is somewhat trickier.....but that still shouldn't detract from recognizing that Pakistanis are focusing on resolving their own issues.
But you know how prejudices work. All of us have them.
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tahmed32, just continuing to rub it in, to my friend HP and his raw thinking on this matter :)
From what I can tell, few Pakistanis buy that theory, which is a great sign of maturity for Paksitani people in general. We in India haven't reach there. Perhas our situation is somewhat trickier.....but that still shouldn't detract from recognizing that Pakistanis are focusing on resolving their own issues.
#119 Posted by HP on September 4, 2007 12:59:56 pm
#100 Posted by stuka
“Can you give me one example of Islamic fundamentalists teaming up with India?”
are you trying to bamboozle me?
The standard operating procedure is that the Indian agencies don’t approach Hindus in Pakistan and Pakistani agencies don’t approach Muslims in India. Though as unscrupulous as both agencies are, there may be some overlap.
So it is not outside the realm of possibilities that some Muslims, fundo or not, are working for the Indian agencies. Why do you believe that the person who did that has to be a fundamentalist?
That is so ridiculous when I hear these things from some intelligent people.
Indians and Indian government basically are retaliatory and this is one example of a clear-cut mindless retaliation. Since some in the Indian intelligence agencies believe that the ISI was behind the Hyderabad, they retaliated.
In Pakistan it is easy to place the blame on the fundos and as I see here Havyoons fundos on this site are jumping up and down with glee until they find out who is actually behind this…
This is a RAW job.
Havyoons is my word for these fundo sympathizers here!
Will discuss other posts later...
“Can you give me one example of Islamic fundamentalists teaming up with India?”
are you trying to bamboozle me?
The standard operating procedure is that the Indian agencies don’t approach Hindus in Pakistan and Pakistani agencies don’t approach Muslims in India. Though as unscrupulous as both agencies are, there may be some overlap.
So it is not outside the realm of possibilities that some Muslims, fundo or not, are working for the Indian agencies. Why do you believe that the person who did that has to be a fundamentalist?
That is so ridiculous when I hear these things from some intelligent people.
Indians and Indian government basically are retaliatory and this is one example of a clear-cut mindless retaliation. Since some in the Indian intelligence agencies believe that the ISI was behind the Hyderabad, they retaliated.
In Pakistan it is easy to place the blame on the fundos and as I see here Havyoons fundos on this site are jumping up and down with glee until they find out who is actually behind this…
This is a RAW job.
Havyoons is my word for these fundo sympathizers here!
Will discuss other posts later...
#118 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 12:56:26 pm
GT #83 It is like when my side kills it is OK when your side does it is not. We are being drawn to take sides and we are behaving like mute beasts moving in herds towards our respective 'sides' in a looming war. .... And make no mistake the line being drawn is through the medium of innocent lives ....
Agreed. When people talk lightly of deaths (whether t is of tribals or military, pakistani or indian), they act like wildebeast (you'll know what I mean if you have seen a herd of wildebeast happily chomping grass after carnivore has just attacked one of their own. I think it was John Donne (or perhaps Christopher Marlowe) who wrote some centuries back - "Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee my friend".
Agreed. When people talk lightly of deaths (whether t is of tribals or military, pakistani or indian), they act like wildebeast (you'll know what I mean if you have seen a herd of wildebeast happily chomping grass after carnivore has just attacked one of their own. I think it was John Donne (or perhaps Christopher Marlowe) who wrote some centuries back - "Ask not for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee my friend".
#117 Posted by bulleya on September 4, 2007 12:53:04 pm
i think pakistan needs to stop supporting the usa in waziristan.......the reprecussions are occuring in pakistan, not in usa.......
the usa has made a lot of enemies over the years.....it is about time, it did its own fighting......and gave the same importance to explosions in other countries as it did in its own......if this explosion had taken place in new york, the media coverage would have gone on for months.....
....for some reason, various pakistanis get overly excited and want to support the usa in all its wars....pakistan over-supported the usa in the first afghan war, resulting in all kinds of explosions occuring in pakistan; not to mention a klashnikov culture due to pakistan becoming the logistics line for cia and the mujahideen....
......it is doing the same again........
........as for the taliban and those in waziristan, let them fight the usa if they want.......in return, if the usa bombs them, let them get bombed.......they cannot have it both ways.......they cannot fight the usa, from pakistani soil, against the writ of the pakistan govt. and then expect the same pakistan govt. to stand up for them, when they get bombed.....
let the usa and taliban fight it out in waziristan.......however, pakistan, itself, should never bomb any part of pakistan; including waziristan.......
the usa has made a lot of enemies over the years.....it is about time, it did its own fighting......and gave the same importance to explosions in other countries as it did in its own......if this explosion had taken place in new york, the media coverage would have gone on for months.....
....for some reason, various pakistanis get overly excited and want to support the usa in all its wars....pakistan over-supported the usa in the first afghan war, resulting in all kinds of explosions occuring in pakistan; not to mention a klashnikov culture due to pakistan becoming the logistics line for cia and the mujahideen....
......it is doing the same again........
........as for the taliban and those in waziristan, let them fight the usa if they want.......in return, if the usa bombs them, let them get bombed.......they cannot have it both ways.......they cannot fight the usa, from pakistani soil, against the writ of the pakistan govt. and then expect the same pakistan govt. to stand up for them, when they get bombed.....
let the usa and taliban fight it out in waziristan.......however, pakistan, itself, should never bomb any part of pakistan; including waziristan.......
#116 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 12:51:12 pm
kaalchakra #108 And what did you hope to achieve by making up an ethnic angle to this bombing?
#115 Posted by okhla99 on September 4, 2007 12:50:44 pm
Mentally Challenged Masadi,
The idiotic suggestion that the CIA is behind the terrorist attacks can only come from an intellect of your calibre (abysmally low that is..).
Come on. You can only fool some of the Chowkies some of the time. Most of us can see right through the fake veneer of lulu.com and your imaginary theories involving conspiraciess or the evil elite.here,
By the way, you have not replied to questions raised on other boards. You have also chosen to run away from the dalrymple board. And I find you trying to blame CIA for the bombings. Reminds me of Zeemax who once tried to prove that 9/11 was a US govt make-believe and that the twin towers tragedy was an illusion created by Media/CIA.
Foolish mindsets like yours continue to harm this country and need to be eliminated at the earliest.
#113 Posted by masadi on September 4, 2007 12:44:47 pm
Hamid made a typo when he wrote "kanjaroons are those people who love life more than death ........ "
He meant to say "kanjaroons are those people who love their own life more than the death they cause in the millions around the globe ........
Btw, washing your exposed parts multiple times during the day, and inventing the soap are some things that the kanjaroons didn't do even though now they associate themselves with "deodrant"...
He meant to say "kanjaroons are those people who love their own life more than the death they cause in the millions around the globe ........
Btw, washing your exposed parts multiple times during the day, and inventing the soap are some things that the kanjaroons didn't do even though now they associate themselves with "deodrant"...
#112 Posted by hamidm2 on September 4, 2007 12:29:18 pm
clifton,
..... you are either with us or against us ! ..... make up your mind
.... and i speak for all the kanjaroons ..... in case you don't know, kanjaroons are all those people who use toothpaste and deodrant, shave their faces instead of their private parts (men), shave their legs instead of their moustaches (women), listen to music other than the daff and the azan, do not parrot meaningless arabic phrases, use utensils to eat, sit on chairs instead of squatting on dusty floors and those who prefer to live in above ground houses instead of caves in the tora bora ............
......generally speaking, kanjaroons are those people who love life more than death ........
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