Twin Blasts in Rawalpindi leaves 27 dead, 70 injured

Re: # 17

of course you are right about the paper tiger mitter ji -- now meet the new Queen of the Quislings!

1. The army personnel are scared shit these days to go out in uniform.

So for ONE uniform to be kept, the entire army has to take-off their uniforms.

2. Whosoever were the personnel in the bus we might never know, but the bus belonged to the MINISTRY OF DEFENSE. It could be that army was being moved in that bus. Military vehicles are not safe on the streets anymore.

3. This "suicide bombing" stunt which gets reported is totally FALSE. Every "suicide" bombing is the work of the Government in cahoots with the US. ONly PALESTINIANS & Afghanis have been conducting suicide attacks for the right reasons...they have something to GAIN or their lives have been reduced to the level that they feel justified to go to such lengths.

What happens is that those languishing in jails & "forgotten", those "disappeared", those on drugs are given a promise & they are sent into thse "crowded areas", "targets"
about which they have no clue. They are harnessed with tyhe gear & are given a task to take the "package" & leave it & in return they will be rewarded with the promise of freedom, release or drug.

& then he is blown up by remote.

There is a whole lot of difference between what happens & what gets reported.

The old-fashioned classical way to ANALYZE is still the best....

1. MOTIVE...& who benefits in WORLDLY MATERIAL ways
2. The method...& the ease of implementing
3. The quick stock answers which arrive IMMEDIATELY after only by those who have been given the task to defend the nation. As if the reast of the nation is "THEM" & these thieves are covering their bloodied tracks.
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The war against the Kanjaroons by both Muslims & Hindoos
was started a few years before 1857 & has never stopped.

It is the US-Aids ridden Kanjaroons , like the two Cantonments Kuttaas here, who have a deep disdain for both hindus & muslims and are in an orgasmic delight to support the United Satans.

The muslims of undivided India, the ones who were NOT westoxicated, the giant scholars from the Madressas, were committed to jointly fight , shoulder to shoulder, alongwith their hindu neighbors & brethren to kill & destroy the British Babboons.

It was the westoxicated ones, the Baba Blacksheep, the Cantonment Kuttaas, the toataa mainaas, & the crows, the jackals, the vultures & the hyenass in english dress who hated the mullahs the maulaanas & the maulvis...& they are continuing to this day.

One glance at the number of mullahs, maulvis, & maulanas in the army of that great HINDU leader of muslims and hindus combined to get rid of the boboons would be sufficoient to learn this lesson to guide us in our future course of events.

"
Jis dhuJ say koi maqtal mein gaya vo shaan salamat rehti hai
yeh jaan toa aani jaani hai,iss jaaN kee toa koi baat naheeN
"
..................FAIZ:

the ones without ghairat, the ONLY TWO resident kanjaroons,
will not be able to understand & appreciate the above sentiments.

An excerpt from the Urdu press (which the kanjaroons would not have seen) of an interview of Umme-Hassaan upon her release, but which will greatly benefit the Kanjaroons to ponder over the kind of commitment they're up against:

- On the killing of her 4 year old son: " They were all my children".

- On not being handed over the body of her son: "Even if they had given me his body, I would have returned it to the earth. It doesn't matter.

- On losing her platform (i.e. Jamia Hafsa): "The building was not the platform. We don't need any buildings. We are here. The platform is intact".

Re: # 89

Your observation is quite incorrect. Just on this website many ( i stress on the word many) people who claim to be pakistani were jumping up and down with glee - and trust me I am not refrring to hindus or mirasis like #48; they were all who appear sane under normal cricumstances. Bezamir was quite candid when she said that "mujhe lal masjid operation se khushi hoi hay". This is what this bitch barked when shattered bodies of innocent children were still being retrieved from the cinders of lal masjid.

Abu sufwan:

Not only does army has to be caged back into cantonment kennels but there will be a major operation clean up involving exceutions of military personnel through firing squads who were invoved in the treason and crimes against the people of Pakistan for the past 8 years. This is a tall order but unfortunately that is the only logical conclusion of what has been set in motion after the masacre of school children.

#87 Posted by cliftonbridge

kanjar fundoo vs kanjar secular out there, with honest liberal MUSLIMS and fundamentalist MUSLIMS ...

... and in which bracket does your humble servant reside? :)

zee

"All sovereignty belongs to Allah, and Allah alone"

And what dont you think i beleive that? I dont care if its in Pak Constn or not i beleive that anyways. But i also belive that, that very same Allah has given me free will to interpret my faith, and to question and not just accept.

ursturly

no one was jumping up and down with glee when the jamia kids were killed with that horrible phosphate stuff and govt had mass graves... even the most ardent secularoon was well pissed with fauj, but why do ppl like zee jump up and down with joy when other (God fearing and innocent) ppl are killed, just because one doesnt support extremes or a radical pov doesnt mean you can kill that person... there is NO justification for ANY death like this...

Bottom line remains that when you encouraged people to fight the war that the army should have fought ..if infact it was woth fighting...than you have created a monster that needs to be dealt with in a political manner and not by force. You don't suppress even a small minority by millitary might in your own country, let alone the maddarsa crowd in a country like pakistan.

Urstruly bhai..there were def. encroachments and Islam doesn't allow that no matter what the purpose is..u know it n i know it. But to thier credit they did offer market price for it..but by then the sellers werent paki. govt it was white house n they didnt wanted to sell.

What they have done in lal masjid and the manner in which they have slaughtered boys n girls as young as 6-7 will have a lasting affect on the psyche of the society at large..n we are in for a bumpy ride..i don't see how that could be good for the country..i dont know how you correct the travesty of slaughtering innocent kids..but maybe n just maybe..army's removal from power should be the first step on the road of redemption.

Everyone calling this kanjaroon/muslimoon is wrong ...PREDOMINANTLY pakistani MUSLIMS do not believe in forcing strict shariah and at the same time do not believe in killing people who are unarmed.

Its actually kanjar fundoo vs kanjar secular out there, with honest liberal MUSLIMS and fundamentalist MUSLIMS caught in the cross fire (even if just a rhetorical one).

The jawans are not fair targets at all. The ones amongst them who dutifully torture people on command must be distinguished from the ones who simply are trying to defend the STATE and the NATION against people who are attacking it (for whatever higher calling).

#80 Posted by Ally,

Why should some one elses Islam be imposed on the whole nation esp if they dont want it, we have already experimented with Islam .... blah blah ...

Bhai, this question is not even open for discussion. It was decided back in 1948 with the preamble to the constitution which says "All sovereignty belongs to Allah, and Allah alone", and The source of all laws is defined as Qura'an and Sunnah.

Have you any idea about the Pakistan constitution??? No?

Please contact mantolives.

Re: # 80

None of the demolished mosques were illegally built. It is all this kafir government's propaganda. Masjid Amir Hamza was built before even Pakistan came into existence and Islamabad was just a little village of mud huts. Lal Masjid was established by Ayub Khan himself and he himself appointed Moulana Abdullah, the father of Ghazi brethern as its head at the recommendation of Quai-e-Azam's close companion Allama shabbir ahmad usmani.

It is because of these shameless lies and then senseless massacre of school children of Jamiah Hafsa and Jamiah Faridiah that the backlash is so vicious and unforgiving. Come to think of it, the students of both schools were no more than 8th, 10th, and 12th graders. Where the fuck were the human rights organizations when 2000 of these innocent children and human beings were being mercilessly incinerated with phosphorus based napalms. Every person who raises the slogan of moral issue of attacks against na-pak fouj should drwon himself in the handful of their own piss - as the urdu proverb goes.

GT, that was just a dig at my friend HP, whose vision (for Pakistan) I, as a non-Muslim, support (although I suspect for him to push zee's Islamists completely back is going to be a bit hard, particularly if, in a couple of years, nawaz sharif is able to work cooperatively with Islamists).

About spill over into India, the ONLY option Indians have, if they are serious about themselves to the smallest extent, to expect and be prepared for the 'worst' from all sides (that should be a strategy for everyone). As you said, the loss of lives is inevitable (or has it always been so?). So the only question remains, how to minimize the loss important to oneself.

tahmed sahib:

I am with you. But please do listen to what people are saying. People are being killed all over. And these killings have been and are being justified. When militants kill in Kashmir it is for freedom or 'informers' are being killed. When the state kills 'militants' it is to safegaurd civilians. The hafza girls were 'terrorists' and the tribals simply collateral damage. Don't you understand? It is like when my side kills it is OK when your side does it is not. We are being drawn to take sides and we are behaving like mute beasts moving in herds towards our respective 'sides' in a looming war. .... And make no mistake the line being drawn is through the medium of innocent lives .... that is how it is done.

Mr. Ahmed,

These are working assumptions.

With a-bombblast-a-day in Pakistan it cud be anybody's job.

We'd never know abt this chess-game of trading corpses btw India and Pakistan.

And having met ONE guy of coofi variety by accident (in the last 8 yrs) I can vouch for what MAJumdar said abt them; they are useless class X-pass types. India needs better guyz in such jobs. That idiot sang a lot abt Pakistan to a stranger like me. I dont have faith in Indian agencies as professionals.

zee

I deplore the way the govt. handled Jamia Hafsa, especially since they themselves allowed the guns etc to be taken into the complex. I also dont agree with Jamia hafsa peeps when they took the law into their own hands, the peeps who built the mosques throughout the city illegally should not have done so especially since the mosques had to be shaheed/knocked down, building mosques is not a game, it is an organised and sacred activity.

Also what would be your reaction if a few people participated in a 'sit - in' in an Islamic library demanding Secular law and Pakistan remove 'Islamic' from its title? You would not give in obviously! Why should some one elses Islam be imposed on the whole nation esp if they dont want it, we have already experimented with Islam and each time its been a major mess up.

But to express glee and happiness at the death of employees who are trying to support a family is nothing short of sick. Is there that much hatred in you that this makes you happy? Regardless of what you say, the negativity you feel towards your own country ppl and what those bombers did cannot be called Islam or anything similar, it is sheer terrorism just like the IRA.

At least with Arjun we know where we stand, but you are a Pakistani, with ppl like you in our country Arjun seems like a friend, and we dont need dushman. Cehennem will be filled with bearded ones and burka clads. I rememebr as a child being told a Hadith 'do not trust the mualvis of the 14th Islamic century' or something similar, know i now the Holy Prophet (saw) was right...

you and your ilk have left the muslimoon and become the kanjaroon... May Allah show you the path and guide you to righteousness and humanity, and lift you from the depths of hate you currently dwell in - Ameen!