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Twin Blasts in Rawalpindi leaves 27 dead, 70 injured

Saeed Minhas September 4, 2007

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#207 Posted by masadi on September 5, 2007 9:46:47 am
Ha ha now he invents BS names, how low can people stoop. You can "expose" me all you want, my thoughts are open books, and they will only benefit the people. As for your lies that you invent, they only disgrace you and show the sorry state of your "intellect", if the stinking nerve that describes your insect brain can be described as such. As for John Winters , lol, he told me that he is fast on your tracks and your return to your homeland is a few weeks away.....

Stop spamming the boards with your BS you idiot
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#206 Posted by okhla99 on September 5, 2007 9:40:29 am
Masadi you fool,

Only you can believe the BS that you spew.

John Winters of the US INS (Immigration & Naturalization Service) has told everybody about how you wept and begged for a second chance to stay in the US.

Diane from the Graduate School has also told everybody about how all your attempts to get an extension failed miserably.

Now that you are back in Pakistan, please please try to contribute positively to the nation building process. Stop imagining. Stop bullshitting. Stop calling others "morons' & "dimwits". Do something creative for a change.

You stand thoroughly exposed Masadi..
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#205 Posted by masadi on September 5, 2007 9:38:40 am
In addition to #204, when you talk about the "system" which by the way you have borrowed from our talks (mine and HPs) about institutions and not the person being responsible, but don't have the decency to acknowledge that, you hide that that system is the work more of those you worship the colonials and later the US elite working through its occupation force than anything indigeneous.....hypocrite
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#204 Posted by masadi on September 5, 2007 9:35:53 am
Tahmed, you are the "master moron" because all you seek to do with your hypocritical moralizing is legitimize the barbarism and the segregation imposed on the majority world by the US elite and their peons. Okhla is your tiny "shagird" who cannot handle one coherent thought leave alone an argument. Look at his ilog, the only material he has been able to produce is his "fun at fishing" piece. He cannot manage to write a decent two page paper and yet has the audacity to talk about my many books.....little fool

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Fact: Okhla is lying
Fact: Masadi chose to leave the US to help the poor masses in Pakistan and look after family

Fact: Masadi never had a permanent university job in the US and so the "extension" issue never arose

Fact: Masadi was called by his ex-professor to teach at the university because he was top of his graduating class

Fact: Masadi was rejected by corporate publishers because they said they weren't sure these books would sell. They are similarly "not sure" if Noam Chomsky, Michael Parenti or similar authors would "sell" so they reject them as well

Fact: Masadi decided to publish with "on demand" publishers who have no such sales criteria. Masadi books, five years after publication now rank higher on amazon time and again than Ann Coulter's books just one year after publication...

Fact: Masadi received offers from ALL Pakistani colleges he applied to, never has Masadi been in so much demand both by business schools and public universities

Fact: Lulu.com doesn't charge a "fee" to publish "on demand".

Fact: Supporters of the US elite, their "peons" that have ensured that the vast majority of humanity's suffering is legitimized by bells and whistles and images of dance and drink are surely dimwits .

Fact: The world is fast coming to a realization of the shenanigans of the US elite, they themselves will take care of A-holes like Okhla and other peons of the West .


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#203 Posted by okhla99 on September 5, 2007 9:29:59 am
#200 Tahmed. Greetings Bro.

You need to agree that there is nothing wrong with the prople or with the country. It is the leaders who have let us down. And we don't really nead the creme de la creme as far as leaders are concerned. Any above average professional with inherent decency and sincerity would be million times better than NS or BB or PM etc.

Cheers.
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#202 Posted by okhla99 on September 5, 2007 9:29:57 am
#200 Tahmed. Greetings Bro.

You need to agree that there is nothing wrong with the prople or with the country. It is the leaders who have let us down. And we don't really nead the creme de la creme as far as leaders are concerned. Any above average professional with inherent decency and sincerity would be million times better than NS or BB or PM etc.

Cheers.
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#201 Posted by tahmed32 on September 5, 2007 9:24:01 am
masadi: your calling everyone who disagrees with chowk a moron shows you have the emotional level of a spoilt 3 year old. as for your intellectual level, your arrogance needs to be deflated, and okla has done that in #199.

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#200 Posted by tahmed32 on September 5, 2007 9:21:23 am
okla: To repeat the point I have been making - it is not personalities, but the system. Forget Azim Premji - even Bill Gates would be jumping out of Windows or banging his head against a Firewall if he were given the job. And the system we need is one where the big boss are the Pakistani people - not some daughter of the east or a mard-e-mijahid or a mard-e-momin or a businessman, no matter how brilliant or successful.
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#199 Posted by okhla99 on September 5, 2007 9:20:53 am
Fact : Masadi was kicked out of US.
Fact: Masadi begged for an extension but was denied on merit.
Fact: Masadi was rejected by all mainline publishers.
Fact: Lulu.com agreed to publish Masadi papers, for a fee.
Fact: All Pakistan colleges/schools refused to hire Masadi.
Fact: Chowk rejected six of Masadi articles.
Fact: Masadi believes the rest of the world consists of "dimwits" who are peons of the West.

Fact: Mad mullahs like Masadi shall soon be eliminated.
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#198 Posted by masadi on September 5, 2007 9:16:53 am
Okhla is totally clueless about the political situation in Pakistan, this is not a board game where you just pick and place people but morons wouldn't know; Pakistan would go deeper into chaos when these implants are placed, no candy would be handed on the streets, they would have no legitimacy, and who gives a flying rat's fcuk about what India and the US wants regarding Pakistan....we have seen what implants did to Iraq.....Moron
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#197 Posted by okhla99 on September 5, 2007 9:11:23 am
Thanx Boss dost_mittar#193

Let me repeat the suggestion for the benefit of the newcomers.


Prime Minister Azim Premji
Maybe we should invite the Narayan Murthy and Azim Premji pair from India to handle Pakistan politics for some time. They would concentrate on technology/economy and also curb the overwhelming interference of the military in civil affairs. Premji can be the prime minister and Murthy can be the President. And no, the suggestion is not as outrageoous as it sounds. These guys would gain immediate trust from US and India. They would cause strengthening of democratic insstitutions. They would not indulge in corruption and loot. BB & NS on the other hand would only act on predictable lines with "Twenty percent" etc.

I got this idea when I read about someone pining for a "noble Sayyid" or "any decent Arab" as a leader for Pakistan.

Give it a thought folks.
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#196 Posted by tahmed32 on September 5, 2007 8:38:02 am
cliftonbridge #195 Have you seen a drunk skunk? Or are you merely perpetuating negative stereotypes about the poor skunk?
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#195 Posted by cliftonbridge on September 5, 2007 7:57:48 am
HP i assume you are drunk as a skunk again, you certainly sound that way.
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#194 Posted by NangaPir on September 5, 2007 7:53:53 am
I was in Octri 22 (Chungi 22) coming from Bakra Mandi. Nothing to worry about these blasts. These were suicide vests carried by ISI which exploded prematurely. Everything is right.
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#193 Posted by dost_mittar on September 5, 2007 6:31:45 am
okhla#168:

Actually, there is some thinking going along those lines, if you can think of the Pak versions of Premji and Murti. Here is Hamid Mir, someone with some inside knowledge;

Hamid Mir

Pakistan and the 'minus 2 formula'

September 05, 2007





Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf's [Images] top advisers have seriously suggested applying Bangladesh's 'minus 2 formula' in Pakistani politics.

Growing political uncertainty and deteriorating law and order situation may force the Musharraf regime to follow in the footsteps of the interim government in Bangladesh.

The army-backed interim government in Bangladesh suspended general elections for one year and imposed emergency in early 2007. The Bangladeshi army also attempted to banish two former prime ministers Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina from politics by force (hence 'minus 2').

Initially the interim government tried to expel Bangladesh Nationalist Party head Khaleda Zia from the country but she refused to bow down. Awami League head Sheikh Hasina was in the UK at the time and she was asked to stay away from Bangladesh. All the efforts of the establishment to stop her failed and she finally landed in Dhaka on May 7. A big welcome for Sheikh Hasina at Dhaka airport never discouraged the Bengali establishment and she was arrested on July 16 on corruption charges. She got some relief from the courts but she was again booked in new cases. Her old political rival Khaleda Zia faced the same kind of charges and was also arrested few days ago. The Bangladeshi establishment is determined not to allow the two women to contest the next elections.

The Pakistani establishment seems quite impressed by the performance of the interim government in Bangladesh. President Musharraf tried his best to strike a political deal with former prime minister Benazir Bhutto [Images] under US pressure and delayed the 'minus 2 formula' for a while but this formula is again under discussion in Islamabad's corridors of power after some serious problems emerged during the negotiations with the 'daughter of the east'.

Top government officials claim they are relaxed now because the US can understand the ground reality. Musharraf was serious about sharing power with Bhutto but her demands exposed her real intentions; she actually overestimated her importance and tried to grab everything from Musharraf through negotiations. She got nothing out of them but Musharraf was at least able to break the alliance between Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif by engaging one of them. Both of them were thinking of returning to Pakistan by the same plane but now they are coming separately.

General Musharraf has turned down a proposal to meet Benazir Bhutto again in Abu Dhabi to push for a deal. Former British high commissioner in Pakistan Mark Loyal Grant and some influential Arab personalities are still trying their best to bridge the gap between Bhutto and Musharraf but they face many problems.

Highly placed diplomatic sources have revealed that it is not only the uniform of the President, article 58-2B of the constitution and bar on third-time prime ministership which are still unresolved, but there are many other differences yet to be resolved.

Bhutto is demanding that local bodies must be dissolved before the general elections but both the Pakistan Muslim League-Q leader Chaudhry Shujaat Hussein and Muttahida Quami Movement's Altaf Hussein refused to accept this demand. Shujaat met an MQM delegation the other day in Karachi and both sides decided to set aside all their differences to save the local bodies. Many observers believe that Bhutto underestimated the 'sick man' and his party; in fact, Shujaat proved that he is more influential than the director general of the ISI and National Security Adviser Tariq Aziz who were trying to negotiate a deal with the Pakistan People's Party.

Shujaat dismissed any possibility of his meeting with Bhutto in Dubai to facilitate a deal. He said Benazir Bhutto doesn't believe in 'give and take', she actually believes in 'take and take and take' which is not acceptable to the PML-Q as well as President Musharraf.

Top government officials have also confided to this scribe that a caretaker set-up before the general elections was also discussed with Bhutto. The government wants to appoint former governor of the State Bank Dr Ishrat Hussein as caretaker PM but Bhutto has yet to agree on his name.

A source very close to Bhutto said, "Dr Ishrat Hussein served Musharraf from six years, he is their man, he is not independent and we cannot accept him as caretaker prime minister."

Surprisingly, there are many similarities between the interim head of Bangladesh Dr Fakhruddin Ahmed and Dr Ishrat Hussein. Both served in the World Bank. Both served as the heads of the central banks in their countries. Dr Fakhruddin was governor of the Bangladesh Central Bank from 2001 to 2005 and Dr Ishrat was governor of the State Bank of [Get Quote] Pakistan from 1999 to 2005.

Some other names are also under consideration as caretaker prime minister but Dr Ishrat is still on top. The main task for the interim government would be to hold free and fair elections but the dangerous security situation may become a reason to delay the elections. Some observers still fear the threat of martial law.

General Musharraf also wants to avoid martial law but if the Supreme Court does not allow him to be elect again in army uniform he may take some extreme steps on the Bangladeshi model. Elections could be delayed with the imposition of emergency. The establishment may also arrest Sharif and Bhutto on their arrival in old corruption cases.

A big question will still be there. Can the 'minus 2 formula' bring political stability in Pakistan? This formula has yet not given any stability to Bangladesh. There is a big difference. The Army in Bangladesh is using the civilian face of Dr Fakhruddin Ahmed and not directly calling the shots. Pakistan is different where a sitting army chief is the real face of the government and army personnel are facing suicide attacks from South Waziristan to Rawalpindi.

The minus 2 formula may not deliver in Pakistan. Pakistan needs an 'all-encompassing formula' for stability. Every important political force should be onboard for a fair and free election in Pakistan.

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#192 Posted by IB on September 5, 2007 6:30:52 am
Good news is that the IB (Intl. Br.) has solved the Nishtar Park Case - and guess who was involved ? A Deobandi from Abbotabad , Pakistan - brainwashed one ofcourse. The identity has been confirmed and the people who planned the whole incident are on the run - in which one of the culprits Mulana Zain from Swat has been arrested.
GoP has announced a award to the IB team - plus the government has announced atleast two housing schemes (one in Islamabad -ext 3, one in Karachi ) for IB officials plus a salary increment.
The role of Intel. Agencies is vital - against fighting mullahs - who happens to be our biggest threat. Glad GoP has finally thought of helping the civilian intel. agencies which is a good sign.
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