Saeed Minhas September 4, 2007
#159 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 7:01:07 pm
#158 Mr. Madani: Challenging Mr. "paki paki" Arjun to cut and paste even 1 positive story is like challenging a monkey to talk without scratching himself all over and chattering nonsense all the time. In other words, it would require a leap in evolution.
#158 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 4, 2007 6:57:00 pm
Re: # 155
Mr.Arjun.... I challenge you and cut paste even 1 positive story a day. It is tough challenge due to your search methods.
Mr.Arjun.... I challenge you and cut paste even 1 positive story a day. It is tough challenge due to your search methods.
#157 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 6:54:13 pm
Kaalchakra #153 On the issue of ISI finding spies in India, perhaps we should think of something more socially useful (maybe sending zeemax and hamidm on a tour of India so they could totally confuse the population with the variety of viewpoints in Pakistan).
#156 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 6:44:45 pm
arjun: Let's see...Kulharee is the prophet who declares Pakistan is headed to become North Korea (thus helping ensure chowk retains its title as the World Capital of Wishful Thinking). "paki paki" arjun wets his lungi with delight and does a pre-emptive strike by declaring Kulharee the winner and tahmed to be a false prophet. :-(
#155 Posted by arjun2 on September 4, 2007 6:38:54 pm
#153 Posted by Kulharee on September 4, 2007 6:07:19 pm
Pakistan is a North Korea in the making
Pakistan is the new egypt..country based around denial...
and of course..prophet tahmed(pbuhsrr) is queen cleopatra..the queen of denial...
Pakistan is a North Korea in the making
Pakistan is the new egypt..country based around denial...
and of course..prophet tahmed(pbuhsrr) is queen cleopatra..the queen of denial...
#154 Posted by shehrbano on September 4, 2007 6:30:33 pm
Deserves an encore!
#145 Posted by AlephNull on September 4, 2007 3:41:58 pm
"
From Romair’s post:…
I do know the PAF is on alert. I think the US C-141s are going to start rolling in soon. I have a feeling the Pakistani pilots and army will assist and guide the US into Afghanistan, if it decides to carry out an invasion (even though the Pakistani govt. won`t admit it openly). There is no way the US soldiers can carry it out on their own. They don`t have the intelligence, they don`t know the terrain, can`t speak the language. Infact, they can barely pronouce the names of the cities.
I`ve trained with the Pakistanis, with Middle Easterners and with Americans. I will take the Pakistani soldier over any other soldier anyday (any soldier except for an Afghan soldier, that is).
Man, this is getting interesting. Information Technology suc/ */s as a profession. No glory. I wanna go back and put on the uniform.
There’s more in the same vein."
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t o quote the classic line by echoboom again.
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As I have written earlier.
Romair writes the most humorous stuff on CHOWK. Hamid2 has rancour & bitterness in him...a no no for a GOOD humourist."
From Mushy if done! article
#145 Posted by AlephNull on September 4, 2007 3:41:58 pm
"
From Romair’s post:…
I do know the PAF is on alert. I think the US C-141s are going to start rolling in soon. I have a feeling the Pakistani pilots and army will assist and guide the US into Afghanistan, if it decides to carry out an invasion (even though the Pakistani govt. won`t admit it openly). There is no way the US soldiers can carry it out on their own. They don`t have the intelligence, they don`t know the terrain, can`t speak the language. Infact, they can barely pronouce the names of the cities.
I`ve trained with the Pakistanis, with Middle Easterners and with Americans. I will take the Pakistani soldier over any other soldier anyday (any soldier except for an Afghan soldier, that is).
Man, this is getting interesting. Information Technology suc/ */s as a profession. No glory. I wanna go back and put on the uniform.
There’s more in the same vein."
____________________________________________________________
t o quote the classic line by echoboom again.
"
As I have written earlier.
Romair writes the most humorous stuff on CHOWK. Hamid2 has rancour & bitterness in him...a no no for a GOOD humourist."
From Mushy if done! article
#153 Posted by Kulharee on September 4, 2007 6:07:19 pm
You know what is there to be loved about Pakistanis, is that the whole country is going to dogs, and all we can do is blame others for our own misery. Life is really that simple for Pakistanis. A new term for Head in the sand-ism (going Paki). Pakistan is a North Korea in the making, except we have tall and handsome Jawans and our women people speak much better English.
#152 Posted by KaalChakra on September 4, 2007 5:54:15 pm
tahmed32 and cliffs, it's actually quite a relief to know that Mohajirs don't face that problem.
Sometimes, prejudice works through blind association. In India, for instance, the group 'most suspected' of collaborating with Pakistanis and being ISI agents may be Indian Muslims.
However, in practice, that suspicion may hardly be justified. It would be far smarter for the ISI and Pakistanis to work through two types of Indian Hindus themselves - leftist Hindus for ideological reasons and Hindu right if they can find (or trap) personally needy individuals willing to sell their country for personal considerations.
Sometimes, prejudice works through blind association. In India, for instance, the group 'most suspected' of collaborating with Pakistanis and being ISI agents may be Indian Muslims.
However, in practice, that suspicion may hardly be justified. It would be far smarter for the ISI and Pakistanis to work through two types of Indian Hindus themselves - leftist Hindus for ideological reasons and Hindu right if they can find (or trap) personally needy individuals willing to sell their country for personal considerations.
#151 Posted by arjun2 on September 4, 2007 5:43:17 pm
#149 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 5:07:12 pm
not to mention the poor image of India as a result of Kashmir,
Prophetboy...what should India do to improve it's poor image? hand over kashmir on a platter perhaps?
the military has enjoyed great prestige as being the protectors of the nation from Indian aggression.
yeah..aggression like in 1965 and in kargil and when the indian aggressors killed a whole bunch of bengalis in 71...
not to mention the poor image of India as a result of Kashmir,
Prophetboy...what should India do to improve it's poor image? hand over kashmir on a platter perhaps?
the military has enjoyed great prestige as being the protectors of the nation from Indian aggression.
yeah..aggression like in 1965 and in kargil and when the indian aggressors killed a whole bunch of bengalis in 71...
#150 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 5:15:49 pm
kaal #127 : Thanks for explaining where you were coming from on this. And no - while there are issues wrt to mqm, from everything I know the muhajir community has never been considered "most likely to collaborate with the enemy" as you assumed. and as cliftonbridge points out - the mqm was itself a creation of the military (as were the careers of NS and ZAB, I may add, and thru ZAB of BB).
To indulge in the luxury of idle speculation (this being idle time chowk) - we may well have had a far better crop of political leaders in Pakistan if the generals had permitted democracy to take root in Pakistan, including inner party democracy, the way it did in India. Now, all we have are choices between the least useless among the candidates.
To indulge in the luxury of idle speculation (this being idle time chowk) - we may well have had a far better crop of political leaders in Pakistan if the generals had permitted democracy to take root in Pakistan, including inner party democracy, the way it did in India. Now, all we have are choices between the least useless among the candidates.
#149 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 5:07:12 pm
dullabhatti: The reason I said it was wishful thinking is because there has been no survey that I am aware of concerning how the rank and file of the military (as opposed to Musharraf) is viewed by the average Pakistani. Historically, the military has enjoyed great popularity among Pakistanis where it has been seen very much as a national army: with a half million individuals in uniform, most Pakistanis have relations in the army; and given the historical hostilities with India, not to mention the poor image of India as a result of Kashmir, the military has enjoyed great prestige as being the protectors of the nation from Indian aggression. And I have seen no indication (admittedly sitting half way around the world, but nevertheless in touch with Pakistan due to people travelling between Pakistan and the US) that this image has changed for the military as a whole (again, as opposed to Musharraf's own image given his appalling performance this year).
#148 Posted by ana on September 4, 2007 4:31:14 pm
[...i think most pakistanis...would not mind having an arab head of state if he was pious and pro-islamic ...]
I think that Naqshbandi should not attempt to speak for most Pakistanis. I do not think he really knows what most Pakistanis want.
And while I owe something to Grandpa Gopinath myself, I would not insult another culture by calling it sub-standard and inferior but that's just me.
I think that Naqshbandi should not attempt to speak for most Pakistanis. I do not think he really knows what most Pakistanis want.
And while I owe something to Grandpa Gopinath myself, I would not insult another culture by calling it sub-standard and inferior but that's just me.
#147 Posted by mohar11 on September 4, 2007 4:13:11 pm
[...i think most pakistanis...would not mind having an arab head of state if he was pious and pro-islamic ...]
True... this is what I have been telling YLH and others... pakis are nothing but wannabe-bedouins... democracy, secuarlism all these stuff is not going to work on them - such concepts are way beyond their capacity...
What a shame - born from loins of Grandpa Gopinath and yet clamoring after sub-standard cultures and inferior philosophies... ah, well :)
True... this is what I have been telling YLH and others... pakis are nothing but wannabe-bedouins... democracy, secuarlism all these stuff is not going to work on them - such concepts are way beyond their capacity...
What a shame - born from loins of Grandpa Gopinath and yet clamoring after sub-standard cultures and inferior philosophies... ah, well :)
#146 Posted by dullabhatti on September 4, 2007 3:53:01 pm
"according to military spokesman Major General Wahid Prashad...."
toba toba...globalization taking its toll.
toba toba...globalization taking its toll.
#145 Posted by AlephNull on September 4, 2007 3:41:58 pm
From Romair’s post:
…
I do know the PAF is on alert. I think the US C-141s are going to start rolling in soon. I have a feeling the Pakistani pilots and army will assist and guide the US into Afghanistan, if it decides to carry out an invasion (even though the Pakistani govt. won`t admit it openly). There is no way the US soldiers can carry it out on their own. They don`t have the intelligence, they don`t know the terrain, can`t speak the language. Infact, they can barely pronouce the names of the cities.
I`ve trained with the Pakistanis, with Middle Easterners and with Americans. I will take the Pakistani soldier over any other soldier anyday (any soldier except for an Afghan soldier, that is).
Man, this is getting interesting. Information Technology suc/ */s as a profession. No glory. I wanna go back and put on the uniform.
…
There’s more in the same vein.
…
I do know the PAF is on alert. I think the US C-141s are going to start rolling in soon. I have a feeling the Pakistani pilots and army will assist and guide the US into Afghanistan, if it decides to carry out an invasion (even though the Pakistani govt. won`t admit it openly). There is no way the US soldiers can carry it out on their own. They don`t have the intelligence, they don`t know the terrain, can`t speak the language. Infact, they can barely pronouce the names of the cities.
I`ve trained with the Pakistanis, with Middle Easterners and with Americans. I will take the Pakistani soldier over any other soldier anyday (any soldier except for an Afghan soldier, that is).
Man, this is getting interesting. Information Technology suc/ */s as a profession. No glory. I wanna go back and put on the uniform.
…
There’s more in the same vein.
#144 Posted by AlephNull on September 4, 2007 3:40:13 pm
arjun_m #134
{{maybe someone can find capt clueless' posts right after 9/11 to see how enthusiastic he was about joining the US invasion..he was chomping at the bit to lead the US armed forces into afghanistan..}}
#43 Posted by Romair on September 17, 2001 2:42:50 am (on Hoodbhoy’s
{{maybe someone can find capt clueless' posts right after 9/11 to see how enthusiastic he was about joining the US invasion..he was chomping at the bit to lead the US armed forces into afghanistan..}}
#43 Posted by Romair on September 17, 2001 2:42:50 am (on Hoodbhoy’s
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