Saeed Minhas September 4, 2007
#79 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2007 9:43:53 am
#73 Posted by tahmed32,
"disappeared" persons...doing exactly the same thing themselves when they kidnapped three women...
But the prostitutes didn't disappear, did they? :)
"disappeared" persons...doing exactly the same thing themselves when they kidnapped three women...
But the prostitutes didn't disappear, did they? :)
#78 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 9:41:53 am
VRV: Sorry to disappoint you, but RAW is not taken seriously in Pakistan by even the conspiracy theory lovers (HP is the only one here who mentioned RAW).
#77 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2007 9:40:47 am
#72 Posted by GT,
I think it will all work out fine, as long as no deal is done (there's news that a deal between BB/musharraf has been concluded today) and NS is not arrested on his return. If either or both of the above occur, the bombs in the capital will keep going off with carefully timed spaces in between so as not to invoke an Israeli style disproportionate response.
I think it will all work out fine, as long as no deal is done (there's news that a deal between BB/musharraf has been concluded today) and NS is not arrested on his return. If either or both of the above occur, the bombs in the capital will keep going off with carefully timed spaces in between so as not to invoke an Israeli style disproportionate response.
#76 Posted by VRV on September 4, 2007 9:36:01 am
There are many groups in Pakistan that can do it but mostly likely RAW is behind it. Responding to the Hyderabad blasts.
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This was my first impression when I heard abt it.
We have Muslim fifth columinists in India to work for ISI or its cohoots like LeT, JuD etc., but Pak Muslims working for RAW - IF THIS'S TRUE - is something u Pakistanis shud worry abt.
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This was my first impression when I heard abt it.
We have Muslim fifth columinists in India to work for ISI or its cohoots like LeT, JuD etc., but Pak Muslims working for RAW - IF THIS'S TRUE - is something u Pakistanis shud worry abt.
#75 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 9:35:17 am
GT #72: Bomb blasts kill innocent people. They dont topple governments. The maulvis are too stupid to understand that. The real power struggle in Pakistan has nothing to do with maulvis.
#74 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2007 9:34:39 am
#70 Posted by arjun2,
You know something? You're actually right sometimes!
You know something? You're actually right sometimes!
#73 Posted by tahmed32 on September 4, 2007 9:31:12 am
zeemax: lal masjid maulvis did not protest against "disappeared" persons. instead, they contributed to the problem by doing exactly the same thing themselves when they kidnapped three women (one with child) from their home and declared them prostitutes.
Fascists are fascists - whether religion, ethnic or military. And all you are doing is supporting one form of fascism.
Fascists are fascists - whether religion, ethnic or military. And all you are doing is supporting one form of fascism.
#72 Posted by GT on September 4, 2007 9:30:36 am
Kaal:
"Were I a Pakistani Islamist, I would actually join with HP (or have some Islamist friends join with HP) and focus on blaming the RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, and KGB, while get to work at home implementing the sharia by all necessary means."
Too old fashioned and you have not been listening ... even to those in chowk. The 'greater' problem has been determined to be internal. Oons have been defined and the line is being drawn. I too hope that people like HP and manto succeed and I do not mind them blaming India. But I sincerely believe that it is a bit too late. Logic, persuation, morality, guile, diplomacy ... all are out. People are being summoned to do their 'duty'. It is very very sad. Pakistan is not and never was a bannana republic. It is not and never was a failed state. But if fair elections are not implemented asap all bets are off. And if it is war, then let us be very pragmatic and recognize that it will spill over onto India ... or is it already spilling over?
"Were I a Pakistani Islamist, I would actually join with HP (or have some Islamist friends join with HP) and focus on blaming the RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, and KGB, while get to work at home implementing the sharia by all necessary means."
Too old fashioned and you have not been listening ... even to those in chowk. The 'greater' problem has been determined to be internal. Oons have been defined and the line is being drawn. I too hope that people like HP and manto succeed and I do not mind them blaming India. But I sincerely believe that it is a bit too late. Logic, persuation, morality, guile, diplomacy ... all are out. People are being summoned to do their 'duty'. It is very very sad. Pakistan is not and never was a bannana republic. It is not and never was a failed state. But if fair elections are not implemented asap all bets are off. And if it is war, then let us be very pragmatic and recognize that it will spill over onto India ... or is it already spilling over?
#71 Posted by arjun2 on September 4, 2007 9:29:04 am
#51 Posted by HP on September 4, 2007 8:04:13 am
Strangely, in Hyderabad there were two bombs and in Pindi the response was exactly two bombs.
Nice try...but there were more than two bombs in h'bad. two went off.
Strangely, in Hyderabad there were two bombs and in Pindi the response was exactly two bombs.
Nice try...but there were more than two bombs in h'bad. two went off.
#70 Posted by arjun2 on September 4, 2007 9:26:31 am
#61 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2007 8:40:28 am
Which criminal activity were they involved in for starters?
The crime of not having the bigger guns...in a might is right world, that is a serious crime..
Which criminal activity were they involved in for starters?
The crime of not having the bigger guns...in a might is right world, that is a serious crime..
#69 Posted by philosopher on September 4, 2007 9:19:54 am
Re: # 64hamid meerasi
((((it seems that the muslimoons have drawn a line in the sand and are ready for a bloody battle with the kanjaroons))))
Good one Meeday...so who are you gonna support? Kanjroons or Muslimoons.
((((it seems that the muslimoons have drawn a line in the sand and are ready for a bloody battle with the kanjaroons))))
Good one Meeday...so who are you gonna support? Kanjroons or Muslimoons.
#68 Posted by Kulharee on September 4, 2007 9:19:51 am
Shariah and its associated books and pamphlets died when Mullah tried to escape persecution in Burka. What kind of example did he set for coming generations of Shariatees? May Allah’s curses be upon him. A Musliman never hides behind a Burka like a pussy.
#67 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2007 9:19:45 am
... except for one thing ...
The Muslimoons didn't draw the line, the Kanjaroons did when they killed 1200 mostly orphaned or unclaimed schoolgirls (those were all who remained in the end) with chemical weapons and buried the skeletons in mass graves, and then demolished the building to hide all evidence, and even the demolished debris is closely guarded till this very moment. A petition is pending by the survivors to allow access.
The Muslimoons didn't draw the line, the Kanjaroons did when they killed 1200 mostly orphaned or unclaimed schoolgirls (those were all who remained in the end) with chemical weapons and buried the skeletons in mass graves, and then demolished the building to hide all evidence, and even the demolished debris is closely guarded till this very moment. A petition is pending by the survivors to allow access.
#66 Posted by KaalChakra on September 4, 2007 9:15:45 am
hamidm, I truly think that Pakistani Islamists are being too gentle, being hamstrung by their understandable love of land, and their overly humanly regard for their neighbors. If they adopted the same methods they have in Baghdad (and the difference is entirely make-believe), they can implement and enforce the constitution much quicker.
Were I a Pakistani Islamist, I would actually join with HP (or have some Islamist friends join with HP) and focus on blaming the RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, and KGB, while get to work at home implementing the sharia by all necessary means.
Were I a Pakistani Islamist, I would actually join with HP (or have some Islamist friends join with HP) and focus on blaming the RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, and KGB, while get to work at home implementing the sharia by all necessary means.
#65 Posted by zeemax on September 4, 2007 9:14:28 am
#64 Posted by hamidm2,
Hamidm, this is exactly correct. Thanks for clarifying my view which seems muddled to so many here for some reasons. Just for this, please accept my humble apology for any previous untoward remarks towards you!
Hamidm, this is exactly correct. Thanks for clarifying my view which seems muddled to so many here for some reasons. Just for this, please accept my humble apology for any previous untoward remarks towards you!
#64 Posted by hamidm2 on September 4, 2007 9:05:20 am
Re: # 62
hp,
.... i think you are missing zeemax's point ... he is saying that the denizens of lal masjid were simply asking for the implementation of the sharia as called for by the constitution ..... the government, according to zeemax, is infidel and illegal and therfore the citizens of the islamic republic are duty bound to take up arms against it ......... he does have a point .... it seems that the muslimoons have drawn a line in the sand and are ready for a bloody battle with the kanjaroons ..........
hp,
.... i think you are missing zeemax's point ... he is saying that the denizens of lal masjid were simply asking for the implementation of the sharia as called for by the constitution ..... the government, according to zeemax, is infidel and illegal and therfore the citizens of the islamic republic are duty bound to take up arms against it ......... he does have a point .... it seems that the muslimoons have drawn a line in the sand and are ready for a bloody battle with the kanjaroons ..........
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