Twin Blasts in Rawalpindi leaves 27 dead, 70 injured

Kul:

I agree with tahmed on this one. What is the fault of the poor soldiers or others working for the army? These were people being taken in a bus, so they were not even upper echelons of the army. The soldiers are only doing their duty, are they not?

According to reuters, the bus that was attacked, was carrying Pak Atomic Energy Commission employees to work. It is not clear though that the people who have been jaaN bahak'd were uniformed personnel or civilians or a mix of both.

In any case it is sad state of affairs that all armed forces vehicles that go into public places, like colonol sahib's governt issue jeep, hauling sabzi from market and kids from school, have been painted civilian colors and civilian number plates have been assigned to them. And then this depite everything...

Dost Ji, Do you think that the Nazis were doing their duty as well.

#32 Kulharee sahib: These are political issues. They have nothing to do with expressing joy at the death of people (fathers, brothers, husbands - trying to earn a living in conditions that you will never see in New York). Like I said, "never mind the damn politics".

Kul#35:

Not the Nazis, but the German soldiers were. In any case, what choice do the poor soldiers have? if they disobey, they can face court martial.

#26 Posted by dost_mittar

The US doesn't need an Emergency to do so, but I don't think that they would as long as ...

If the daisy cutters could not eliminate Afghan Taliban, what makes anyone think these could eliminate the 'Pakistan Taliban'?

I'm still incredulous as to how so many people, even well-experienced and well-read like yourself Sir, find it so difficult to make the distinction that bombs can kill an army, but not a 'movement'.

Where lies the problem in such an understanding?

Re: # 33
without getting into the morally right or wrong of the issue, if we only look at the strategy being employed, I think that is the standard operating procedure of any gorrilla insurgency i.e. throw the wrench into the very machinery that actually works to get the results. The top brass, or the so called "the brain" (which is always safe) can do squat if there is no viable machine to carry out their plans and orders. Iraq was the first place to test this strategy, and it is working with incredible efficiency against the world's largest and most fearsome war machine. This strategy has actually made the said war machine sputter and smoke in the most humiliating way.

Dost Ji, if their biggest fear is to face a Court Marshal, they should by all means go and kill all those who speak ill of Pak Army – well they have been doing it since the creation of the filthy state of Pakistan. As-holes killed Bugti Sahib, an unknown number of people in Lal Masji Saga. Hundreds are disappeared with no trace. And you are telling us that they are doing their job? I don’t disagree with you, they are trained to do that (religiously and professionally) to kill the people who pay their salary.

zeemax#38:

"I'm still incredulous as to how so many people, even well-experienced and well-read like yourself Sir, find it so difficult to make the distinction that bombs can kill an army, but not a 'movement'."

Where did I say that it will kill the movement?

#41 Posted by dost_mittar,

If you don't think so, then the question of anyone having a choice to use or not to use daisy cutters is moot. They haven't worked in Afghanistan and these certainly will not work on the other side of the Durand Line.

Tahmed sahib,

(does calling someone a "choora" lower that person?)

And I thought we Hanud Injuns were the only casteist racist lot in the world.

Regards

Urstruly#3p:

Pakistan is not Iraq, at least not yet! These are not new soldiers recruited by a government imposed by foreigners. [unless you can show that NS was ousted with American help]. Pakistan is unique and the course of events that take place there will also be unique. Unfortunately, too many variables are involved here for anyone - and that includes the US and the Pakistani fauj - to predict the outcome.

But I must say that Pakistan is the most exciting 'happening' place right now, and you may see the most prominent journalists making a beeline for Islamabad in the coming weeks and months.

#34 Posted by Urstruly,

The occupants of the bus were all uniformed personnel. Footage was shown of military caps and shoulder pips strewn around.

Though its true that these people were small fry and a lot of innocent bystanders got killed. A more plausible target would have been the Zarrar Battalion of the 111 Brigade. Perhaps it will come in due course but come it will ...

Zeemax sahib,

Even if they were all armymen they were mostly small fries- people who had wives and kids and in likelihood sole breadwinners. What wud be achieved by killing them? If they really want to do something, they shud take out someone big, I am sure even ordinary Pakistanis wouldn't object.

Regards

#46 Posted by majumdar,

If they really want to do something, they shud take out someone big

I see. You mean like they should take out a bunch of burqa clad rebellious school girls with white phosphorous.

Above goes for you too tahmed32, who is busy shedding crocodile tears for some morons who had it coming (just like the ninja chicks had it coming ... remember?)

As you sow, so shall you reap, and reap, and reap, and so on.

Re: # 47

zeemax,

.... i wish they had taken out all the burqa clads to prevent them from breeding more suicidal jihadis who will come back to haunt us one day .....

..... anyway, after talking it over, gul zaman and i have decided to change our decision and vote for bb instead of ns ...... we think that bb will do a better job of going after the extremists and eliminate their breeder stocks .....