Mother Teresa’s Moment of Truth

Converted white considers himself so b/c
they considers himself welcome by brahmin hindu as if they were trophy ...
i am not surprised you never found a black coverted to hinduism b/c you will have hard time placing him in any caste but the lowest if any .
This i am not presuming but have seen hindus avoiding muslims and blacks too.Class muslims have drwn MD . Ali to Yusuf Islam (former cat stevens pop singer)Alike.

Kaala Chakra & Shah2,

I am not a racist. I met many white Hindus. All claim themselves to be Brahmins!!! How can converted whites be Brahmins?

Shah2, u are a presumptious prick.

Re: # 86#87

I understand and agree with your apprehension

By the way it just occurred to me that there is a whole new awareness in the US of sexual predators - of "helpful" people who take advantage by 'helping' and 'persuading' others in asymmetric situations. Thre is increasing societal demand that such helpful good samaritan people be put behind bars, preferably for life.

This is the identical behavior.

shah2, no problem. You are obviouisly not any bigger a racist than I am, and perhaps neither did vrv intend to see things as a racist.

My ONLY problem is with the idea of asking people to leave their religions, their cultural associations, their identities in the context of "helping them," or with creating such conditions where this kind of thing happens or is faciliated. I find that morally reprehensible and politically criminal, to be treated as such by affected parties.

If Mother Teresa was not a "missionary" in that sense and her work and life did not in any way facilitate/promote that kind of 'help,' I don't have much of a problem. May be she was corrupt, silly, or whatever else, quirky may be.

In general, it is much better to be quite suspicious and careful than to be badly surprised, though.

As i see it while almost all people acknowledge her decent work but some not her religion ...people are pulling out different books and aticles discreditting her .
Its more to prove that nothing good can come out of christian faith itself b/c the church or Pope are corrupt and priests are known to have sexually exploted children.
Articles criticing MT may be from Christians themselves.lets say even if there was misappropriation of money as her critic allege is her religion to be blamed for it ,if any good is not assigned for these same critic not by her faith.There has been lot of criticism of christianity by those who have degrees in science and bilogy to doubt .Christianity has been for 2000 yers and if you consider rennaisence and the accompanying scientific enquirey started in europe a predominately christian countries .Dont forget there more than billion of Christians who still adhere to there faith and all of them cannot be wrong ...attacking as dogma or biggotary is no threat to them if attacking you hope to make any difference .

Its uncomfortable feeling of people not being able to do good work themselves even though not there fault or b/c of lack of oppertunity or some out right jelously guarding there parlysis laziness

#82 Kaal
My comment was in the spirit of reminder and education if you may .I never intended to demean any god and i am sorry if you mistook it as rascist derogatory comment which it was not

I guess there are 2 sides to everyone. Mother Teresa's missionary approach to mankind which many people loved or the fact she was deluded with her faith and as many people who feel they are doing God's work are actually in fact doing more harm than good in the long term. Millions of people around the world are mislead from the reality of how life really does function. MT spent sometime realizing this but at the same time saw the conflict between her discoveries and her faith and in the end choose the faith since it would keep her life in the same order without turning it upside down.

Mark Henry Robinson

vrv, shah2

Both of you friends seem to be incurably racist. can you put aside your racism for a few minutes? :)

VRV bhai
"Our guys converts whites to Hindusim that too as Brahmins"

Why this beholden attitude by Hindu to wards whites when Kali And Krishna gods were dark skinned ..or you dont care about religion as as much prefernce for being a white ....

Anybody who visits Nirmal Hruday in Calcutta wud give-up the idea that Mother Teresa was engaged in conversions. Her flagship Nirmal Hruday was bang next to Kaalighat temple, the most popular temple in eastern India. The location she chose would be provocative. She lived with many confrontations with the priests of Kalighat but they made peace long ago.

The ppl who get the basic medical help at Nirmal Hruday are the ones who die in a day or two. Some even cant talk or make sense of what's happening to them. Who converts them? What's the use?

Yes, if she used her money and fame to convert some ppl, it's again the question of conscience and individual choice. Our guys converts whites to Hindusim that too as Brahmins and the white Brahmnins in turn are very active in converting some more whites to Hinduism.

Who cares?

Fresh from reading (National Geographic) abt Edhi the Father Teresa of Pakistan, I felt that these quixotic souls spend their lifetimes for charity work for some altruistic reasons. They get happiness by doing some service to the society. There are many ppl who're inspired by Teresa and Edhi who're doing yeoman service to the society in their own domains. For eg. Chiranjeevi runs many blood banks in AP for no profit. He's not a Christian. I am sure there are some budding Edhis in India and Pakistan.

Goodness promotes goodness.

This seems like a big challenge, which chaltahai put before us. Does anyone know or understand why the view so eloquently expressed, as below, may not pan out as predicted? Or is this a widely shared view among both Hindus and Muslims alike here?:

"In 50 years, we will laugh even more at religion and in another 300 years, we will all look like Derek Jeter. I see more fu**g going on between Indians and whites and chinkoos adn south east asians and blacks and latinos and even the gay germans that all this bullshit of hindu/muslim/sikh will just be flushed into the ocean. So don't worry about it bro..Krishna brand vanasapati ghee in pakistan for iftar dinners and Mohammed Brand two ply paper towels are around the corner. The future is bright."

Chalta, yaar, this view is best expressed here on chowk by you and anil ji - the belief that all religions will cease to be powerful (divisive) forces in reasonably forseeable future, and we should arrange our own worlds with that expectation, maximizing, instead, economic growth opportunities for everyone. Is that the right statement of the essence of the argument?

chalta, that's fair. I will have to think a little more whether 1.2 billion Chinese, Australians, New Zealanders etc is the same thing as Muslims, Christians, or Hindus (but particularly Muslims because of Islam's specific nature), or whether 12 million Jews might be as powerful were they not Jews, with all the history of religion.

Must say I have at this time no answer to this viewpoint :)

Kaal, numbers matter if they can prove something. 1.3 billion chinese are just 1.2 billion chinese and then there are teh 12 million jews. Go figure. I hate it when peole casually throw around numbers. Please be careful with the POWER of numbers.

o kalutey aur a-null, tum jaise dalley aur bhadvey aksar apni asliyat chupananey ke liye chashma chadha lete hain. Kum se kum apni budhi ma ko to mut becho beyghairton