Mohammad Gill September 4, 2007
#2 Posted by masadi on September 4, 2007 3:08:31 pm
Regarding the "Virgin Birth", let me reproduce one of my interacts back from 2005 when I recently started posting on Chowk, while living in the headquarter nation-state, of the Neo-Colonial elite:
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#1 Posted by masadi on December 22, 2005 11:08:11 pm
The article is totally off the mark and tries to fit and stretch the Quran based upon whim and predetermined conclusions. Why do I say that?
He says that the aya in Sura Yasin talking about pairs of everything including humans means the Jesus had a father. Not so, the verse is merely talking about gender, male and female and not about Jesus` father- that interpretation involved deception and not ``thinking``. Or the claim that the Quran gives equal status to the messengers and similar message means that their biographies were the same- Not so, illogical conclusions.
Second, ``virign birth`` is not contrary to natural laws, it is not impossible, though it is unusual. Here is a news report that you all might want to read (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/05/tech/main552408.shtml)
``Human egg cells can be duped with chemicals and electric shocks to begin growing like embryos, which are coveted as stem cell sources``
The Quran is very clear that Jesus was born without the intervention of a male, ``...how can I have a son when no man has touched me.`` is very CLEAR. Using sense in reading the Quran does NOT mean you distort it by adding things according to your preceived morality or sense of right and wrong.---
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#1 Posted by masadi on December 22, 2005 11:08:11 pm
The article is totally off the mark and tries to fit and stretch the Quran based upon whim and predetermined conclusions. Why do I say that?
He says that the aya in Sura Yasin talking about pairs of everything including humans means the Jesus had a father. Not so, the verse is merely talking about gender, male and female and not about Jesus` father- that interpretation involved deception and not ``thinking``. Or the claim that the Quran gives equal status to the messengers and similar message means that their biographies were the same- Not so, illogical conclusions.
Second, ``virign birth`` is not contrary to natural laws, it is not impossible, though it is unusual. Here is a news report that you all might want to read (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/05/tech/main552408.shtml)
``Human egg cells can be duped with chemicals and electric shocks to begin growing like embryos, which are coveted as stem cell sources``
The Quran is very clear that Jesus was born without the intervention of a male, ``...how can I have a son when no man has touched me.`` is very CLEAR. Using sense in reading the Quran does NOT mean you distort it by adding things according to your preceived morality or sense of right and wrong.---
#1 Posted by masadi on September 4, 2007 2:59:12 pm
Another quite poorly written, pseudo-plagirized, tape-recorderesque, badly credited (nynewsdaily!!!) article by Gill who is in the habit of censoring articles that don't go along with his anti-god biases. Look fool, Mother Teresa was no "criterion" of faith nor was she an Einstein to have managed to answer the psychological and scientific implications regarding the God concept, nor are you as your BS about the virgin birth shows, which is a "scientific" possibility which we have already discussed on here and you were stumped. Now just because someone is commissioned by the Church and and becomes a media symbol on charity does not make her the final authority on philosophical and scientific questions. Is that too damn hard for you to comprehend?
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