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Mother Teresa’s Moment of Truth

Mohammad Gill September 4, 2007

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#1 Posted by masadi on September 4, 2007 2:59:12 pm
Another quite poorly written, pseudo-plagirized, tape-recorderesque, badly credited (nynewsdaily!!!) article by Gill who is in the habit of censoring articles that don't go along with his anti-god biases. Look fool, Mother Teresa was no "criterion" of faith nor was she an Einstein to have managed to answer the psychological and scientific implications regarding the God concept, nor are you as your BS about the virgin birth shows, which is a "scientific" possibility which we have already discussed on here and you were stumped. Now just because someone is commissioned by the Church and and becomes a media symbol on charity does not make her the final authority on philosophical and scientific questions. Is that too damn hard for you to comprehend?
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#2 Posted by masadi on September 4, 2007 3:08:31 pm
Regarding the "Virgin Birth", let me reproduce one of my interacts back from 2005 when I recently started posting on Chowk, while living in the headquarter nation-state, of the Neo-Colonial elite:

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#1 Posted by masadi on December 22, 2005 11:08:11 pm
The article is totally off the mark and tries to fit and stretch the Quran based upon whim and predetermined conclusions. Why do I say that?

He says that the aya in Sura Yasin talking about pairs of everything including humans means the Jesus had a father. Not so, the verse is merely talking about gender, male and female and not about Jesus` father- that interpretation involved deception and not ``thinking``. Or the claim that the Quran gives equal status to the messengers and similar message means that their biographies were the same- Not so, illogical conclusions.

Second, ``virign birth`` is not contrary to natural laws, it is not impossible, though it is unusual. Here is a news report that you all might want to read (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/05/tech/main552408.shtml)

``Human egg cells can be duped with chemicals and electric shocks to begin growing like embryos, which are coveted as stem cell sources``

The Quran is very clear that Jesus was born without the intervention of a male, ``...how can I have a son when no man has touched me.`` is very CLEAR. Using sense in reading the Quran does NOT mean you distort it by adding things according to your preceived morality or sense of right and wrong.---



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#3 Posted by chaltahai on September 4, 2007 3:23:16 pm
Just because it is written in a book it doesn't make it true, Masadi. Just because someone thinks god speaks to him in the heat of the arabian desert, doesnt make it so. I am glad you are understanding what Dr. GIll is highlighting.
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#4 Posted by Studebaker07 on September 4, 2007 6:33:58 pm
Its no use attacking religion
Whatever inspires you to do great things
-and in the process hurts no one -
except the idle skeptics.Who just want to sit on there science degrees a if that is the end and beginning of every thing, sitting on the sideline and only criticizing
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#5 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 4, 2007 6:52:28 pm
Re: # 2
Masadi is factually right. In very rare case little girl can carry fertilised eggs from birth and proper time seed becomes plant. In usa or england some counrty in west one girl got baby without benefit of marriage.
In desert for some seeds are lying dormant for 1000s of yars and when rain comes. That is why jesus and Mary( PBUH) were so exceptional.
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#6 Posted by shehrbano on September 4, 2007 7:07:26 pm
Mr. ahmadmadani,

In a world totally confounded & condemned by neem-scientists & neem-mullahs how have you managed to retain such a refreshed & uncluttered mind?

You remind me of those people of yester-years when the western education had not made us the jaahils we are now.

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#7 Posted by Studebaker07 on September 4, 2007 7:11:26 pm
Re: # 5
"one girl got baby without benefit of marriage"

Why only one there are millions of teen pregnancy or single adult ones without marriage ..Its constitutional right of American women to have pregnancy and babies without marriage
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#8 Posted by thinkingstorm on September 4, 2007 8:09:23 pm
I did not know that Mama Teresa suffered from the emptiness. So I am happy that you started the article with that info.

The rest of the article is hokey.
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#9 Posted by teshah on September 4, 2007 8:26:53 pm
Re: # 1

masadi

Masadi got inflamed like his revengeful Salfi concept of Allah which he pretends to take care of with his dagger drawn or a suicide jacket in place; otherwise the truth is "Every angel has his past and every devil his future" and vice verse, of course.

I wonder what Shariah would say about a son born without father? In fact all Muslims claim to be 'Farzandaane Touheed' (offspring of Oneness). Any how: Why is it so baffling when an unmarried mother assigns her birth to God's doing?

And, question of questions: Is not 'Truth' above God. As it is, has not Mother Teresa became all the more respectable by speaking the truth about herself?


Morality is doing what is right, regardless what we are told.
Religious dogma is doing what we are told, no matter what is right."

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#10 Posted by VRV on September 5, 2007 3:23:42 am
Both Mother Teresa and Mr. Edhi emobody the extreme form of compassion for the dying, neglected.

Mr. Asadi, u are stooping so low. Life in the US didnt inculcate in u the ability to handle disagreements?

U sound too boorish to be taken seriously as a normal human being. I think u can make ur point without being abusive. I am aghast bcoz u're a PhD as well.
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#11 Posted by nasah on September 5, 2007 3:29:43 am
"the place of God in my soul is blank – There is no God in me"* (great quote Dr Gill!)

may be there is no God to start with, St. Teresa -- now with that questioning mindset you definitely deserve the sainthood. Bless you.

To be able to live in Calcutta and to believe in a benevolent God -- only an imbecile idiot could do that -- and St Teresa was no idiot – she also knew that's why the atheists are in control of the city for the last 25 years.
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#12 Posted by masadi on September 5, 2007 5:08:56 am
teshah writes "Masadi got inflamed like his revengeful Salfi concept of Allah which he pretends to take care of with his dagger drawn or a suicide jacket in place"

Look fool, don't invent straw men when you have no clue about my beliefs...Gill is in the habit of writing and publishing with his miserable mug shot, third rate BS articles that push his infantile point of view. He is also in the habit of having other articles censored by misusing his office at Chowk. He brings down by leaps and bounds the quality of this website for which I invest quite a bit of my time to share information...
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#13 Posted by Dash_Dot on September 5, 2007 7:04:22 am
what a load of bunk?
Mother teresa knew what she was in for, and was attaempting to do a buddha on the streets of calcutta with an eye on sainthood.

"oh, yes I was feeling al empty and scared etc etc, JC came to me and and with his help performed miracles" "Do I get the sainthood?"

Come on Gill you can do better than this!
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#14 Posted by drsohail on September 5, 2007 8:24:20 am
dear mohammad gill....it is a coincidence that i wrote my reflections yesterday...and this morning saw your article...enjoy....sohail
MOTHER TERESA AND HEAVENLY FATHER
By
Dr. Khalid Sohail
www.drsohail.com
welcome @drsohail.com

I just finished reading the article The Secret Life of Mother Teresa , the cover story of Time magazine of September 3rd, 2007 written by David Van Biena based on Mother Teresa’s letters published posthumously in the book titled Mother Teresa…Come Be My Light.
After reading the article and excerpts from her letters my impression is that in Mother Teresa’s life Heavenly Father was conspicuous by His absence. She experienced a mysterious darkness in her soul and a painful emptiness in her heart as she could have no communication with God most of her life. She felt abandoned and rejected. Being a Catholic nun she had accepted Jesus as her spouse. She remained faithful to her spiritual spouse although the spiritual marriage was not consummated. She remained celibate physically, emotionally and spiritually. It shows how committed and dedicated she was.
Being a Catholic she believed in suffering. Alongside physical and emotional suffering, spiritual suffering was part of her suffering to become a saint. I am impressed that she was honest to herself and her confessors, who were like her psychotherapists, about the emptiness in her heart and darkness in her soul. She might have craved that human emotional and romantic touch that she never had being a nun.
Mother Teresa’s suffering was a mixed blessing, a curse for her but a blessing for humanity. She served the suffering humanity by serving the poor and the disabled and the hungry men and women of Calcutta as she saw Christ in their faces. In her mind by serving them she was serving Christ. She brought the dying men and women home and nursed them till their death as she did not want human beings to die alone. She filled other people’s lives with peace in spite of the emptiness of her own soul.
I found it interesting that she did not want her letters to be published as they were private, like confessions to a therapist, but her confessors and disciples did not respect her wishes. She did not want her admirers to doubt her sincerity or her mission to suffer. She did not know that her letters might be a testimony of doubt in a saint’s heart that would make her personality more realistic. She did not know that her admirers might love and cherish her more for her honesty and candidness. I have no idea about other admirers but I love her more after reading these letters. She was honest to acknowledge that God did not exist in her heart and wondered whether God was a myth and a metaphor rather than a concrete reality that could be experienced with our senses.. Being a nun and a Nobel Prize winner she could not share those doubts publicly and had to lead a double life.
I hope there are more believers that could be honest like Mother Teresa and keep on serving humanity in spite of their doubts in their religion and God. Jean Paul Sartre, the existentialist philosopher, said that we do not need to believe in God to love our neighbor.
For me it was a fascinating read and it inspired me to order the book and read all the letters of Mother Teresa. She was a saint who became a beacon of light for suffering humanity in spite of her own inner darkness.
How wonderful!
How sad!
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#15 Posted by GhalibZaman on September 5, 2007 8:59:15 am
Whoever was Theresa she has already proven her worth by her deeds. How can she be elevated even higher by her "doubts" is beyond me to understand.

The riffraff of the world who have no faith in themselves or others only seem to thrive on doubts of their own & others.

What a pathetic & miserable existence for the ones who have DOUBTS about their own DOUBTS..and need a Theresa to validate their own DOUBTS.

There was Mother Theresa who sometimes had DOUBTS about her FAITH...a good sign, a healthy sign, a scientific sign.

and then there is Mr.Doubtfire who has FAITH in his DOUBTS...a bad sign, a sickness sign, and unscientific sign.
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#16 Posted by Shah2 on September 5, 2007 9:10:15 am
It is astounding to note that in spite of the spiritual crisis that Mother Teresa underwent, she remained true to her work as well as to the people on whom she bestowed her love and sympathy (“Letters crack open Mother’s mask”, Aug 25). The Mother’s anguished letters to her friends and colleagues, revealing the ‘dark night of the soul’, cannot dent her image in our eyes. On the contrary, they strengthen our admiration for this exceptional human being who could fight a battle within herself and yet put up a brave face in front of the world. Even if her smile was a “mask”, it at least succeeded in soothing thousands of troubled minds. Besides, the fact that she felt the absence of God so painfully in her life shows her faith in the existence of the Almighty. Mother Teresa’s letters should not stand in the way of her canonization. On the contrary, the documents should support the arguments in favour of bestowing sainthood upon the Mother.
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