Mother Teresa’s Moment of Truth

from Unplugged..more debriefing of the ones suffering from schlockhome syndrome..where they learned the Missionary responsibility
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This is what I think of Mother Teresa...
Topic started by delhiwala on Sep 6, 2007 12:24:04 pm

When in 1984 there were Sikh orphans first thing that they wanted to do was to convert them into Christianity.
Some Poor Sikhs did that but most did not.

They refused to take Sikhs into their orphanage when they did not convert.

So much for Charity of Church.

there sole motive is to convert people and that is the source of their charity and compassion. There is no same compassion for non Christians.

Whereas in Sikhi we show compassion for Sikhs and non-Sikhs alike(I am not making this up).

Re: # 51
I didn’t mean specifically church charities, now days western governments also prefer to deal with NGO’s they find them less wastage and corruption compared to third world governments. In present circumstances missionaries wouldn’t be welcome in Pakistan, the paradox is convent schools are oversubscribed that is the enigma wrapped up in mystery.

Re: # 65

'When in 1984 there were Sikh orphans first thing that they wanted to do was to convert them into Christianity."

EVEN if we take that as true,do yu believe ever indian non christians become minority ..thats phobia and incitement to whip up hatred and passion against certain community ....

EVEN if millions do covert -those who were near her since she became prominent -what would be there numbers to change the balance ...86% from 87% is not going to make the majority into minority ....

RE:#63 Tahmed32
[[And dont make idiotic statements simply because hindu priests hate Teresa because she actually contributed to society rather than lived off it on account of religion.]]

Could you tell me which of my statements is idiotic, and which Hindu priest has invoked hate speech against M.Teresa? Thank you.

http://www.crusadewatch.org
The above is a "HINDU" site....but not an RSS site

all Hindians whether mild, medium, or hot must study this . It is full of some very detailed work...with solid data.

If there is an iota of sense of dignity left in any Hindian he is bound to react to it..& this is NOT an RSS propaganda site.

"Get angry, it gets RESULTS!"...a great german philosopher.

This will certainly make them understand who has always been the greatest enemy of hindus, muslims, jews & any nation who was a victim of their Imperialism & colonisation..the ripples of which are still afflicting all of us.

First the Bible (under guise of "education"..jobs/jobs! in english), then trade(under guise of western CULTURE ) and coke/jeans syndrome) then the army & flag ( under guise of protection from "red" Indians , your own in villages mosques gurudwaraas,& temples).

Any wonder the missioned-commissioned one when he joins the army or civil service suddenly starts giving orders in alien lingo to his subordinates?

GhalibZaman, ironically, but for the issue of religious subversion, Hindus don't really have many issues with Chrisitans or the US/West.

You are right: they should get angry, very angery, but even getting angry at the issue of religious subversions is called "hatred" by their enemies, within and without. :(

Kaalchakra:
I can feel your pain brother...

Tomorrow when history will be written please make it abundantly clear not to complain that the numbers are dwindling because "others" oppressed us or "forced" us to convert.

This blaming "others" & in the process losing the best friends you ever had & ever will have is the issue which has yet to be "RESTORED"...and not through art & theater but through the meeting of the fundamentalists , the orthodox, the practitioners...not the part-time half-time hindus and muslims in either country.

FWIW, Christopher Hitchens did a demolition job on Mother Teresa in The Missionary Position: Mother Theresa in Theory and Practice.

Among other things, he commented on her glorification of suffering, the abysmal quality of the medicine practised in her hospices (even after she had acquired the resources for much better), her vocal opposition to artificial contraception, her intercession in support of Haitian dictator Baby Doc Duvalier and Charles Keating of S&L fame.

Hitchens is probably too easy on the Marxist fools who rule in Calcutta – his book is still worth reading.

[Aside for assorted Islamaniacs infesting this board: Hitchens doesn’t have anything good to say about you either. He has given Islam and the Majestic Quran a very satisfying pounding in his latest book. Read it and enjoy!]

GhalibZaman

You are speaking to the only "Hindu" who is converted. :)

I have been accused by both Hindus and non-Hindus of not being a Hindu anymore since I have been suggesting (as politely as possible) that NUMBERS MATTER, that pure, raw numbers are the hydrogen bomb of all social theory, and POWER, with numbers, without numbers, is the most important social goals.

But there is only so much one can do.

Ghalib Zaman although its you pergative why carry a muslim sounding name while bein BJP like

o kalutey aur a-null, tum jaise dalley aur bhadvey aksar apni asliyat chupananey ke liye chashma chadha lete hain. Kum se kum apni budhi ma ko to mut becho beyghairton

Kaal, numbers matter if they can prove something. 1.3 billion chinese are just 1.2 billion chinese and then there are teh 12 million jews. Go figure. I hate it when peole casually throw around numbers. Please be careful with the POWER of numbers.

chalta, that's fair. I will have to think a little more whether 1.2 billion Chinese, Australians, New Zealanders etc is the same thing as Muslims, Christians, or Hindus (but particularly Muslims because of Islam's specific nature), or whether 12 million Jews might be as powerful were they not Jews, with all the history of religion.

Must say I have at this time no answer to this viewpoint :)

Chalta, yaar, this view is best expressed here on chowk by you and anil ji - the belief that all religions will cease to be powerful (divisive) forces in reasonably forseeable future, and we should arrange our own worlds with that expectation, maximizing, instead, economic growth opportunities for everyone. Is that the right statement of the essence of the argument?

This seems like a big challenge, which chaltahai put before us. Does anyone know or understand why the view so eloquently expressed, as below, may not pan out as predicted? Or is this a widely shared view among both Hindus and Muslims alike here?:

"In 50 years, we will laugh even more at religion and in another 300 years, we will all look like Derek Jeter. I see more fu**g going on between Indians and whites and chinkoos adn south east asians and blacks and latinos and even the gay germans that all this bullshit of hindu/muslim/sikh will just be flushed into the ocean. So don't worry about it bro..Krishna brand vanasapati ghee in pakistan for iftar dinners and Mohammed Brand two ply paper towels are around the corner. The future is bright."

Anybody who visits Nirmal Hruday in Calcutta wud give-up the idea that Mother Teresa was engaged in conversions. Her flagship Nirmal Hruday was bang next to Kaalighat temple, the most popular temple in eastern India. The location she chose would be provocative. She lived with many confrontations with the priests of Kalighat but they made peace long ago.

The ppl who get the basic medical help at Nirmal Hruday are the ones who die in a day or two. Some even cant talk or make sense of what's happening to them. Who converts them? What's the use?

Yes, if she used her money and fame to convert some ppl, it's again the question of conscience and individual choice. Our guys converts whites to Hindusim that too as Brahmins and the white Brahmnins in turn are very active in converting some more whites to Hinduism.

Who cares?

Fresh from reading (National Geographic) abt Edhi the Father Teresa of Pakistan, I felt that these quixotic souls spend their lifetimes for charity work for some altruistic reasons. They get happiness by doing some service to the society. There are many ppl who're inspired by Teresa and Edhi who're doing yeoman service to the society in their own domains. For eg. Chiranjeevi runs many blood banks in AP for no profit. He's not a Christian. I am sure there are some budding Edhis in India and Pakistan.

Goodness promotes goodness.