A Friend of Feudalism

Oops sorry multiple posts.

Regards

Masadi sahib,

(My posts contain those expletives only for those that deserve them)

You described someone as being red-a****. Since that remark was "deserved" as per your own statement (not Mr. Stanley Wolpert's or Mr. HM Seervai's but your own) do I take it that you observe the posteriors of all chowkies? Didn't know that you had somewhat queer preferences.

Regards

Masadi sahib,

(My posts contain those expletives only for those that deserve them)

You described someone as being red-a****. Since that remark was "deserved" as per your own statement (not Mr. Stanley Wolpert's or Mr. HM Seervai's but your own) do I take it that you observe the posteriors of all chowkies? Didn't know that you had somewhat queer preferences.

Regards

Masadi sahib,

(My posts contain those expletives only for those that deserve them)

You described someone as being red-a****. Since that remark was "deserved" as per your own statement (not Mr. Stanley Wolpert's or Mr. HM Seervai's but your own) do I take it that you observe the posteriors of all chowkies? Didn't know that you had somewhat queer preferences.

Regards

VRV writes "Btw, I don agree with Asadi calling u a 'red assed baboon'."

That was an expletive I borrowed from thinkingstorm in his interact on the Manto ilog, it referred to his thinking ability and had nothing to do with the graphics or the color....The guy is a criminal and a fool, the way he presents evidence and accusitions without a shread of honesty is stupendous to say the least

VRV,

You have the right to your opinion. I just think it is wrong and you haven't produced anything to back up your assertions or those of Masadi.

#98 Posted by MantoLives on September 6, 2007 10:35:00 am

Asadi indeed summarized our history in one sentence. It's amazing.

I dont agree with u even a wee bit. If u dont know or dont WANT to know, Jinnah fought for ALL Indian Muslims, not just the Muslims in West Punjab or the Muslims of NW India.

Btw, I dont like to speculate abt what'd have happened to the ppls of NW India, had there been no Pakistan. It's futile & I dont agree with ur analyses on the subject.

Btw, I don agree with Asadi calling u a 'red assed baboon'.

Urstryly writes "Your discourse cannot be cassified as an "argument". It usually starts with phrases like "you red assed baboons", "you dimwits", and "you morons", "

Oversimplification which means you are seeking excuses and lies like the lies on how you suffer living overseas in the US of A but would like to return to your homeland that doesn't offer you a livelihood. My posts contain those expletives only for those that deserve them because of the way they are being deceptive with their posts like Manto. Since you haven't been able to make me lose one single argument and we have had many, then your psychoanalysis about me is similar Mullah BS, and since I have never been married how can I be going through a divorce? I am very pleasant to be around, and very polite I might add but I don't like the company of "fat ass" mullahs that have invented a profession contrary to the Quran and are involved in making a haraam livelihood as they sell the words of Allah for a miserable price...

bulleya wrote "....highlighted the fact that USA should have exhausted all international legal options, before moving troops......"

You mean a golden opportunity presents itself to the US elite to start another "war with no end", to summarily execute peace, justified by its 9/11 hurt so it came with no public disapproval, and you say they should go legal? Which world were you living in back then? There is an assumption in your "thinking" that assumes that the US wanted to do the right thing but chose the wrong option, that is why the need for this "moralizing" advice.

Re: # 112

Your discourse cannot be cassified as an "argument". It usually starts with phrases like "you red assed baboons", "you dimwits", and "you morons", which only means that either you are having a bitter divorce or you are scared shitless of losing an argument. Why do you have to yell and insult people if you have substance or even an argument. If screaming had made a substantial argument then all books written in bold, underlined and capital letters would have been blockbuster timeless classics. I don't think you are a very pleasant person to be around and I do not think one can even slightly benefit from your company or discourse.

It was essential to kick out Hindus and Sikhs from
what was to become Pakistan.
With them around, Muslims had no chance except in
political field, like bhumiputras of Malaysia.
In all most of the spheres, Hindus and Sikhs would
have dominated, at least in matters where cerebral
matter matters.
So that was the plan all along and it worked.
If Pakistani Muslims had wisdom to woo them and
pursuade them to stay, Pakistan would have or
would have been on the way to become like Malaysia
instead of on the way to become like Afghanistan.

Urstruly writes "I think Masadi is devoid on both accounts, sincerity and presentation. "

Regarding substance, none of you mullahs from the high priest the Khota (Bakri Omar) to the low down jihadists have been able to counter what I say directly from the Quran, if I am so devoid of substance then you should be able to blow me away in argument but not one of you has been able to. Regarding presentation, I would take mine any day over the burping sermons of some mullah high on halva

Just one point I want to make clear to this "red assed baboon" Manto when he claims that I "excuse" the Bengal massacre, I never "excused" the massacre of Bengalis, it is just that the Army action that resulted in that has not ZAB but Yahya, the war criminal to blame. Bhutto was not the military commander in cheif to be giving orders and tactics to the military, it was Yahya's military. Now please clarify to me how talks between Yahya and ZAB amount to ZAB's point by point instruction on how to militarily suppress the Bengali vote? ZAB had nothing to do with the massacre and you do not have any proof , non existant talks behind closed doors do not constitute proof. ZAB the democrat, the Muslim, the friend of the poor and the downtrodden was willing to negotiate to sit as a minority but not under a plan that would cause another "bangladesh" in three of the four provinces down the road and that even if this trap that was being set by the military would be allowed to go on. That is my point of view and it is supported by the facts which are not in a "secret meeting" in some hidden room in Larkana but out in the open subject to analysis.

#107 Posted by bulleya on September 6, 2007 12:31:09 pm


following is from an article i wrote on this site: http://www.chowk.com/articles/5335


That article was written in 2002, long after the t-shirt with paki flag days were over and the canine status of pureland was becoming increasingly obvious..

in any case, the article was titled india's lose lose scenario...turns out, it was a win-win for india...so you're wrong there too..

you're acting like bill o'reilly who gets all worked up when people quote HIM.

O this was good indeed; want to share it again.


Once when Sardar Ataullah Mengal, NawaB amir Muohammed Khan ( then Gov. west Pak) & Ayub ( Pres. ) were together discussing some matter. When Mengal raised his voice high & chided Ayub, Kalabagh requested him to exercise restraint to which Mengal, aghast said to Kalabagh iright in front of Ayub: " Nawab sahib, this guy is a naukar, he is on wages, how can you ever compare him to you & I"

The worst thing that has happened to both India & Pakistan is this transplanted system of "democracy" & the dissolution of States. Hyderbad Bhopal Rampur have yet been not replaced even to their 10% level in all spheres of activities. The Great Mughals did not interfere in the Panchayat system & never ever disturbed the ground-roots of all culture & tradition

i think one needs to separate the rhetoric/manifesto etc. of ppp from the people running it.....

i think ppp has one of the better, if not best manifestos for pakistan....i actually agree with much of bhutto's rhetoric....the older i get, the more socialist i am becoming.....

......however, rhetoric is just that.....rhetoric......what the ppp has actually done is the total opposite of what it preaches.....it is ruled by the chief feudal family of pakistan, which runs it like a family fiefdom.....feudals will never support the common man....the businessman may support the common man, the army may, the ngo's may, the maulvi may, but never the feudal.....

the best thing that can happen now is for the law for not allowing three time pm to stay.......this may open up an opportunity for someone else to lead ppp as pm....

though i don't think bb is going to give an opportunity to people like aitezaz ahsan....she will stick with incompetent folks like ameen fahim.....

ppp without its top feudals would be a good prospect for pakistan.....