Sex Education For the Next Generation

and this from the peerless Imam Ghazali, Sufi par excellence:

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1763&CATE= 126

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#199 Posted by VRV on September 9, 2007 2:13:04 pm

visualise i/i visualises

for mr. thinkingstorm with due respect hoping he will read it:


The Shari`ah is of fundamental importance to the Sufi path. This point is very strongly made by the great Naqshbandi Sufi, Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi (also known as Imam ar-Rabbani), in his letters. Here is a small excerpt from one of his letters, where he clarifies this topic:

The Shari`ah has three parts: knowledge, action, and sincerity of motive (ikhlas); unless you fulfil the demands of all these parts, you do not obey the Shari`ah. And when you obey the Shari`ah you obtain the pleasure of God, which is the most supreme good in this world and the Hereafter. The Qur'an says: "The pleasure of God is the highest good." Hence, the Shari`ah comprehends all the good of this world and the next, and nothing is left out for which one has to go beyond the Shari`ah.

The tariqah ["way"] and the haqiqah["reality"] for which the Sufis are known, are subservient to the Shari`ah, as they help to realize its third part, namely, sincerity. Hence they are sought in order to fulfil the Shari`ah, not to achieve something beyond the Shari`ah. The raptures and ecstasies which the Sufis experience, and the ideas and truths which come to them in the course of their journey, are not the goal of Sufism. They are rather myths and fancies on which the children of Sufism are fed. One has to pass over them all and reach the stage of satisfaction (rida) which is the final goal ofsuluk ["travelling", i.e. the Sufi path] andjadhbah ["overwhelming love"]. The purpose of traversing the stages of of tariqah and haqiqah is nothing other than the realisation of ikhlas which involves the attainment of rida. Only one out of a thousand Sufis is graced with the three illuminations (tajalliyat sih ganah) and gnostic visions, given ikhlas and elevated to the stage of rida.

[Quoted from "Sufism and Shari`ah: A study of Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi's Effort to Reform Sufism," by Muhammad Abdul Haq Ansari, pp. 221-2. Originally from Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi's letters, Vol. I:36.]

BTW overall Dr. Sohail's article was good and useful and i never said it wasn't. Sexual dysfunction is a common human problem and we need professionals to treat it. all i said initially was that such efforts in discussing sexuality in a frank way were not something new or 'maadran'.

personally, i was very lucky as my relationship with my father has always been like that of a best friend and so he was the first one to tell me about sex education. of course sexual hygeine is an important aspect of islamic teachings too and the imam at our mosque also gave us a talk on it when we were about 12/13 :-)

despite the media image of 'demonic mullahs' these people--the vast majority of them--are decent human beings who are proud and have not sold out to the dominant world paradigm.

bjkumar: Dont worry. Mosques have jinns guarding their valuables. A polytheist would have to get up pretty early in the morning to pull a fast one on the jinn!! ;-)

BJK, U mean Italian footwear? ;-)

Re: # 190 kaal

I am here to rescue bedouin-wannabe pakis from their affliction :)... I am trying to save them from themselves... that's a worthy cause - ain't it? :)

#200 Naqshbandi

Be careful of individuals like VRV, sir. He will go to your mosque and walk away with something of value which perhaps you may not even realize!

Naqsh, I am like Akber, a non-conformist. Thanks.

VRV,

I've never said ilm of any sort is not important and i agree with you. continue going to the mosque, sir, you will find your life changed.

insha Allah :-)

Every time Dr. Sohail writes some useful stuff, ppl try to haul him over the coals. Poor Doctor!

A serious poser to believers:

Mind visualises every word. When we say apple, mind visualises apple; it'd never visualise letters APPLE for apple.

One intelligent Muslim friend didn't answer my question yet abt his God (i.e al-Lah). How he visualises God when he says prayer to al-Lah?

Does mind visualises some barbed Arabic script and two daggers on either side? ;-)

N.B: I went to a mosque along with my Muslim friend 2day. I didnt pray but did all the rituals (esp washing face & limbs is very methodical). Hope my Hindu friends wudn't get heartburn.


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Naqsh,

For the return of Islamic rule in this world (as u thought loudly), plz encourage fellow Muslims to think abt 'ilm', which prophet Muhammed recommended very strongly.

Btw, he never defined ilm as of Quranic source...it's an open-ended word.

thanks for your concern but i have no problems fitting into any culture wherever i am. yes, i am a proud muslim and wear my islam on my sleeve. let me tell you something about human psychology: if you are proud of who you are others will respect you too. if you try to be what you are not, others will not respect you either.

put that in your pipe and smoke it as the venerable mr. galloway would say.

thinkingstorm,
can you please tell me the name of a single sufi who was not also an islamic scholar and practising muslim?

and don't compare me to that neokharijite wahabi abu hamzaa.

naqsh-

oops I did it again. Harsh language. no apologies necessary now. You know this is a repeat occurence ;).

And it is "sub theek hai" variety, not the "saarey theek hai". aka "all is well". aka heaven and hell, it is all in your head.

But I am no sufi. Nor do I play one on chowk.

I am worried about you. Your kind are really the disfranchised diaspora, the lost kids of pakistan, who do not know thier own culture, nor do they fit in to the one they live in. They desparetly cling to whatever angry rhetoric mullas espouse.

It is funny that you only mention one side of your heritage. wtf???? this is a common disillusionary bullshit hindu convert families have. Please. One side of your family were kuttar hindus.

think things over, and do something positive.
with much respect,
thinking storm

#various Naqshbandi

Sir, in view of your superb mastery of so many multiple matters of the Muslim mind and your clearly superior ability to analise them so well, perhaps you ought to consider opening up an alternative therapy clinic for the sexually handicapped Muslim marads and mohatarmas.

In your clinic, you could explain to the patients the roots of their sexual dysfunction by pointing out the insidious connections to the demons handed-down-at-birth. You could perhaps also help them design a suitable exorcism strategy – for a small fee, of course – supplementing your income considerably in the process.

You could even open your alternative therapy clinic right outside Dr. Sohail’s office and catch all those vast crowds of patients that will surely walk in – well before he tries to entice the same. Just imagine how satisfactory it would be to look back triumphantly on the Sohail – who will then surely be highly flummoxed at the sudden loss of most of his patients – and perplexed, scratch his head and wonder:

“What the heck happened here?!! I wish I had kept a longer beard.”

naqsh-

first, my apologies for using harsh language against you.

That withstanding. All you are missing is a hook on your arm, and abu-hamza as your name, and I can see you raving in the streets of London.

There is a HUGE difference between sufis and the scholars of sharia. In fact the scholars of sharia were always wary of sufis and have declared them heretics often.

Get yo head out of the mullah's ass amigo.
with much respect,
thinking storm