The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People's Party

Re: # 126

Arjun:

"....to create the conditions for ONE BILLIONAIRE to rise up should give it the best teacher in the world.."

Arjun can always produce an Ace, that can also be a khota sikka... both at times, not legal tender when the trump is different.

I think if Hindus and Sikhs had remained in Pakistan,
most of the interactors from Pakistan would be instead been their chaparasis, hence not interacting
here. That much is clear and obvious.
It would make more sense then to compare conditions
of Indian Muslism vs. Pakistani Muslims.
Pakistani Muslims have grabbed the whole pie, they do
not have to compete with better brains, obviously
they are going to do better.

HAHA...it would be funny if the insurance companies used by most cab drivers were to do this...

US insurance firms sell Indian treatment

MUMBAI: That healthcare is unaffordable in the USA is well documented. That is also the reason why people from that part of the world are seeking out Indian doctors and hospitals to take care of their medical needs. And contrary to popular perception in India, even if people in these countries have an insurance cover, life isn’t easy for a simple reason. The premiums are out of whack with what people can afford to pay. And that has now started a new trend that has Indian healthcare companies drooling.

American health insurance firms, particularly from the US are offering their customers a carrot: If you’re unwell, you've got two options. Either you pay the regular premium and get admitted to a hospital in your country of residence.

Alternatively, you choose to go to India for treatment; in return for which you get a hefty 30-40% discount on the annual premium you pay. The way things are in US, 71 million Americans in a population of roughly 350 million, are either uninsured or underinsured because they cannot afford it.

If industry watchers are to be believed, demand for the services is high and global players like Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Cigna Insurance and Aetna Insurance have latched on to the possibility and are hot-footing it to India not just to set liaison offices in the country, but to tie up with Indian hospitals where their clients can be sent to for life saving procedures like coronary bypass surgeries and heart valve replacements.

Germany-based DKV Group for instance, which has teamed up with Apollo group of hospitals, is also eager to set up a stand alone health insurance company in India to cater to this huge and growing overseas demand. The firm has applied for a licence to the regulatory authorities.

Then there is American health insurer Cigna, which was present in the country until a few years ago. It is now looking to make a comeback. In its earlier stint, the company had arrangements with major Indian hospitals like Wockhardt that allowed its clients to seek treatment here.

"People are getting desperate for good, cheap and realiable medical care," says Vishal Bali, CEO of Wockhardt Hospitals. "Insurance companies are looking at their own viability and the need to save money. The trend of insurance companies latching on also illustrates the growing unaffordability of the US health care system," he added.

Just like hamidm has moved from Merlot to Blue Label

YLH has moved from Bhutto to ?

Little is known as to what will happen in future with the

PPP but the name of Bhutto cannot be removed from it.

Too bad that we don't have a ZAB with us today!

#140 HP

[To the Jahils, Sindhi nationalists have always opposed Benazir and before her , her father. ]

Let me get this straight - you want to fight for Sindhi rights but are opposed to be handed down the power to rule the whole of Pakistan?!

btw: what's the cost of a blue label at the duty free stores at airports?

Good Lord, your Sindhudesh national anthem brings tears to my eyes - and I don't even understand most of its words!

Jeeu jeeu jeejal jeeu...

Bravo!

#131 Posted by HP on September 16, 2007 6:49:37 pm


Despite several problems, a defective educational system and often blatant discrimination, Pakistan has replaced the mediocre talent from India many times over.


really? what do you have to show for it?

a good educational system? nope..

a few billionaires? nope..

a few world class companies? nope...

Hey HP miaN, the following will make your heart swell with pride! Wow! We are rooting for you, bro – our last hope before those Talibanis run us over!

The National Anthem of Sindhudesh
Sindhudesh ji dhartee totey panhnajo sees nivayaan maan,
Mitee maathey laayaan maan.
Jeeu jeeu jeejal jeeu jeeu jeejal tokhaan keenan lanwayaan maan,
Mitee maathey laayaan maan
Kaalh maleeraan mihka utheey jaa nagar nagar phelayaan maan,
Mitee maathey laayaan maan.
Duth be tumhimjo deh be tunhinjo, geet amarta gaayaan maan,
Mitee maathey laayaan maan.
Tunhinjee mitee-a- manjh milaan je bhaag bhalera bhaanyaan maan,
Mitee maathey laayaan maan.

Translation.
O land of Sindhudesh, I lay down my head in your respect and I pour the dust of yours on my head. I obey the echo of your call how can I avoid your call, my motherland? The rhythm of your message straight, I wish to spread that message of peace and nobility to the whole world. I may get poor food or what and feel happy and I sing your songs and anthems, I feel luckiest if I lay down in your land, it can be my best of luck.

There are many Sindhis including me who believe that we did not get a fair share in the pie. How do you approach the issues is a different matter. Some would rely on idiots like Tom Tancredo for relief and others would think about ways to resolve the issue within the system. No matter what the differences, we firmly believe that Sindhis are a distinct nationality in Pakistan and we need to always be ready to defend and fight for our rights.

To the Jahils, Sindhi nationalists have always opposed Benazir and before her , her father. There are things that you just cannot understand about Pakistan because it is a different country, uniquely different than India.

From all indications,

NWFP and Balochistan have already fallen to Talibization!

Punjab (Pakistan) is already half gone - one can not count on the Punjabi khakis because they find it more convenient to surrender in droves to the Taliban than to fight.

That leaves only the Sindhis. The last buffer between the Taliban and India!

Lets pray for the safety and well-being of the Sindhudesh!

HP

Your statement about Sindhis being a distinct nationality made me curious. Now, I found this on the internet:

More than 30 million people living in Sindh, the southeastern province of Pakistan that was once home to the ancient Indus Valley Civilization, have been engaged in non-violent resistance to the fundamentalist ideology of Pakistan for the last fifty years. Last May, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus held hearings on the human rights situation in Pakistan. Congressman Tom Tancredo observed :

"The treatment received by the Sindh province in Pakistan is also of concern. Sindhis are peace loving, nonviolent Sufis, supportive of the American values of democracy and secularism, and opposed to terrorism and nuclear arms. However, they continue to be marginalized by the Pakistan government, and are negatively affected by the Pakistani government's efforts to dam the Indus River."

Vibrant Sindhi communities numbering in the tens of thousands exist throughout the world. These Sindhis condemn the terrorism and Talibanization of Pakistan and advocate democracy and civil society for all the nationalities. In January 2005, Governor Rick Perry of Texas said in a message to Sindhi-Americans :

"Sindhi-Americans continue to play an important role in promoting peace, democracy, and human rights. By putting thought into action, you have reinforced the importance of being civic-minded, committed citizens, and I wish you continued success."

Pakistan is currently under the control of a military government that denies the peoples of its smaller provinces, especially Sindh and Balochistan, their due political, economic, social, and cultural rights. Over the last few years, the Pakistani government has received several billions of dollars in international aid from the USA, EU, Japan, and other donor countries under the pretext of its role in the "war against terrorism." In reality, the current military dictatorship continues to promote Islamic fundamentalists, impose medieval laws against women and minorities, and teach religious intolerance and anti-Semitism in schools. Pakistan’s role in nuclear proliferation severely threatens the peace and security of the region.

Well, based on the above, not only are Sindhis a nation - they are a nation in chains!

The question is - what are YOU doing to unshackle yourself?

Re:HP
"However, the point that we make is that instead of 150 mil, 450 mil would have been suffering in united India."

HP, that is where I disagree. In a united India, there would have been no legacy of the partition holocaust. The numbers would have been too vast to institute systematic discrimination of any kind. Many large provinces including entire Punjab, entire Bengal, Sindh, Kashmir, Assam, NWFP, Baluchistan would have muslim rule.

In addition, muslims would have capitalized on the much deeper caste based cleavage among hindus, to form alliances either with upper castes or lower castes to get into majorities at the center. Basically the situation would have been completely different as things would have reverted back to pre-british conditions. After all muslims didnt really have a hard time ruling the place for centuries in spite of being a minority.

The mother all freebies is asylum. Sorry for u fella.

#131

Imho some of those Indians who migrated or there progeny have west to thank Not Pakistan.Also some Muslims experience much more benefit by being in India specially bollywood e.g Dilip Kumar only one of them.
There have been atleast 3 presidents including Kalam lately .
Mohajir or Indian muslims filled the vacuum created by exit of Hindus.Whether they would continue to be as sucessful or as rapidly is doubtfull .
I mho that my be the case of Refuges from Pakistan too speciall if they enconter other ethnics in the services or dong business in other regions than there lingual strong holds

hamid2, the funny buffoon,

I dont go for freebies like u do.

I give parties. I dont take any.