The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People's Party

kaal says
agree with cliffs there. It's all numbers, numbers, numbers. Mastering the art of complaining and blaming is sone pe suhaga. Hindus can either see that, or choose not to. :)

Re: # 243

clifton bi,

all you came up was with the Islamic nonsense about "re-building" the existing temples of the zimmis.
And I have already told you that idols destroyed are not to be used for puja again.

Tell me HOW MANY NEW TEMPLES and idols were done Sthapana and Prana Pratishtha in modern day PAkistan???

clifton says
We dont have that many hindus and the ones who do still live in pakistan do not exercise the same freedom as some indian muslims do...at the same time we dont beat them up either or tear pregnant women's bellies open ala gujrat...its all a numbers game.

cobes do you want to bet that hindu women are better educated than patah women in pakistan? I wouldnt thank or blame the pakistani govt for everything that happens in pakistan.

also i started off saying that its a numbers game then kaal said yes its a numbers game and then you said its a numbers game so i guess we all agree :)

Now that viqarm bhai has recovered his sense of the self, we can move on.

cobes, no strategic vratetic thinking. Just respecing our friend enough so he can continue to feel good about himself and does whatever comes to him naturally. French revolution, Russian Revolution, Chinese Revolution. Cobes, we are not revoultionaries, and should watch only from a distance, keeping safe from the fires.

My policy: Hands off. Go near, you will get burnt NO MATTER what you do, which side you take, or don't take. Leave that bit of hara kiri to Nehruvian liberals. Apologies for the harangue :)

#251

The govt of Pakistan hasn't attempted to uplift anyone's lot in 60 years, let alone their minorities.

It is an elitist society where the elite want to have it all to themselves, armed forces in particular.

What Pakistan needs is a French revolution ...

Kaal, yaar I'm simpleton. I speak whatever comes to my mind I can't do strategic thinking like you do.

Cobra, you are as poisonous as your name suggests. You are unwilling to work with me to help viqarm feel good about himself. :)

Viq, I'm with RSS. I know a thing or two about how they function. There's no call for Hindutva khatre mei hai.

#248

I already said that Pakistan is not a model for how to treat a nation's minorities well. It has a very long way to go, if it does not self-destruct first in the meantime.

When did I claim that everything is hunky dory in Pakistan?

And the reason why Hindu's share or access to education is close to their percentage of populations in Pakistan has more to do with economic background of Hindus. The same can be said about Muslims in India. I doubt that Pakistani Govt. made any concerted effort to uplift Hindu masses and ensured equal representation is educational institutions. If they indeed do that then I take back my argument.

viqarm, let's give this board back to yasser, accepting whatever it takes you to make you not regret having been brought up in Pakistan. Deal?

#246

BJP types don't need ‘Hindutva khatre me hai’ in order to start a fight. Wake up!

Viq, There is distinction in treatments to Parsis and Christians in both countries (Jews in case of India) and Hindus and Muslims. We know this.
I was reading an article in dawn one time where the author who happened to be Muslim wrote about how Hindus are perceived in Pakistan, Pakistani media, Movie where Hindus are typically depicted as villains.
I am not getting into pissing contest of who treats minority better. We have our faults. Just don't think that everything is hunky dory in your country.

#244

If equality and justice is what the muslims are getting in India, then I have no regret having been brought up in Pakistan.

Clifton, can that be because you have so few Hindus? We have seen what all of us are capable of during partition.

Besides, it's my opinion that Hindus don't get provoked easily and get railed up to the call of ‘Hindutva khatre me hai’ and start a fight.