The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People's Party

#370 Posted by majumdar,

Thank you for informing me someone can be convicted by law without due process of law. :)

I can believe you're not a Brahmin :)

since daaru is haraam in Islam.

#369 Posted by zeemax on September 19, 2007 6:46:48 am

Zee,

U are wrong again. If Jinnah were a true Muslim he'd not given scotch whisky parties to the departing British in GG's House in Karachi.

His Muslimness is as good Savarkar's Hinduness (Savarkar is a known agnostic).

Zee sahib,

Re: 338

(So he was successfully convicted for a crime which he had committed but without legal process? Is that it?)

Yes.

(You must be the Brahmin which KaalChakra is accused of by Ranjit i.e. Baghal mein churri munh par ram ram. )

Nope. I am not a Brahmin.

Regards

VRV,

Nehru's opposition may have been political, but Jinnah's was religious. He was insisting on Dina having him converted, and when she didn't, he cut her off. Just like that.

Zee, u know that reason 4 failure of Indira's marriage is Nehru's possessiveness (I think).

It's a fact that he opposed her marraige. Feroze Gandhi gave speeches against Nehru's govt (I am going to unknown territory, I read this somewhere but I am not sure).

There's an undercurrent of disagreement btw Nehru and his jamai Feroze Gandhi.

Yaar, I am qutoing the book I read. Prf. Ahmed was at pains to explain that they exchanged letters that contain cordial ref to each other.

Prolly we need to interview Cowasjee abt this who met Dina on2one when she went to Karachi.

Nehru didn't disown Indira ...

Yeah he didn't leave her an inch of property. She's still fighting for some.

I haven't said that but may be yes......so was Nehru & so was Gandhi who opposed the decisions of their adult offsrpings.

VRV,

don't burden your mind too much over akber ahmed and the sort. All references are available on even wiki ...

#359 Posted by VRV,

So your argument is Jinnah was being dark minded (despite eating pork while being a Muslim) in not accepting his daughter marrying a non-Muslim.

That's really weird ... :)

Pro. Akber Ahmed

Zee, if u read a book by Aker Ahmed or Manto's ilog abt Dina getting paternal love from Jinnah is enuf a proof that they had normal relations as dad & daughter.

As for not leaving his property, mmmmmm..I have to think abt it.

Zee,

Look at Nehru, my idol. He too was against Indira marrying a Parsi. Look at Gandhi. He roo opposed his adult son becoming a Muslim.

The times they lived was different. Even now we hear stories of parents thrashing children 4 their love marriages. Pak familes beheading their daughters in honour killings and Mukhtran paraded naked for no fault of hers.

Despite the winds of modernism our ppl are dark-minded.

#356 Posted by VRV,

Try again VRV. Jinnah disowned Dina after her marriage, didn't leave her any property, took to calling her 'Mrs. Wadia' instead of 'Dina' and refused to meet her ever again. Though some accounts say he did meet her formally once or twice before Pakistan.