The need for De-Bhuttofication of the Pakistan People's Party

#140 HP

[To the Jahils, Sindhi nationalists have always opposed Benazir and before her , her father. ]

Let me get this straight - you want to fight for Sindhi rights but are opposed to be handed down the power to rule the whole of Pakistan?!

Just like hamidm has moved from Merlot to Blue Label

YLH has moved from Bhutto to ?

Little is known as to what will happen in future with the

PPP but the name of Bhutto cannot be removed from it.

Too bad that we don't have a ZAB with us today!

HAHA...it would be funny if the insurance companies used by most cab drivers were to do this...

US insurance firms sell Indian treatment

MUMBAI: That healthcare is unaffordable in the USA is well documented. That is also the reason why people from that part of the world are seeking out Indian doctors and hospitals to take care of their medical needs. And contrary to popular perception in India, even if people in these countries have an insurance cover, life isn’t easy for a simple reason. The premiums are out of whack with what people can afford to pay. And that has now started a new trend that has Indian healthcare companies drooling.

American health insurance firms, particularly from the US are offering their customers a carrot: If you’re unwell, you've got two options. Either you pay the regular premium and get admitted to a hospital in your country of residence.

Alternatively, you choose to go to India for treatment; in return for which you get a hefty 30-40% discount on the annual premium you pay. The way things are in US, 71 million Americans in a population of roughly 350 million, are either uninsured or underinsured because they cannot afford it.

If industry watchers are to be believed, demand for the services is high and global players like Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Cigna Insurance and Aetna Insurance have latched on to the possibility and are hot-footing it to India not just to set liaison offices in the country, but to tie up with Indian hospitals where their clients can be sent to for life saving procedures like coronary bypass surgeries and heart valve replacements.

Germany-based DKV Group for instance, which has teamed up with Apollo group of hospitals, is also eager to set up a stand alone health insurance company in India to cater to this huge and growing overseas demand. The firm has applied for a licence to the regulatory authorities.

Then there is American health insurer Cigna, which was present in the country until a few years ago. It is now looking to make a comeback. In its earlier stint, the company had arrangements with major Indian hospitals like Wockhardt that allowed its clients to seek treatment here.

"People are getting desperate for good, cheap and realiable medical care," says Vishal Bali, CEO of Wockhardt Hospitals. "Insurance companies are looking at their own viability and the need to save money. The trend of insurance companies latching on also illustrates the growing unaffordability of the US health care system," he added.

I think if Hindus and Sikhs had remained in Pakistan,
most of the interactors from Pakistan would be instead been their chaparasis, hence not interacting
here. That much is clear and obvious.
It would make more sense then to compare conditions
of Indian Muslism vs. Pakistani Muslims.
Pakistani Muslims have grabbed the whole pie, they do
not have to compete with better brains, obviously
they are going to do better.

Re: # 126

Arjun:

"....to create the conditions for ONE BILLIONAIRE to rise up should give it the best teacher in the world.."

Arjun can always produce an Ace, that can also be a khota sikka... both at times, not legal tender when the trump is different.

Re: # 125

Hamidm Sahib:

You were not drunk enough to ask the right question

"India ka matlab kya?"

Let me answer it for This India, they are going to teach few tricks to shell-shocked and non-shell shocked Indians of your and my generation.

Re:HP
"Replacing this kind of mediocre talent should never have been a problem for the Muslims.....If Indians wants to keep their 150 Mil population down..."

The fact of the matter is India provides ample opportunity for anyone willing to work hard. If Indian Muslims fail to avail the opportunity you cant blame the system.

Regards,

Faruk

".. i could never figure out what makes india a nation ..."

Indian Railways.

I read the Farzana article...

"Indeed. The Chinese, the Japanese, the Russians are doing rather well for themselves, and they don’t go around kowtowing to some colonial mentality that talks about English in such a fashion. He mentions that most Muslims are educated in Urdu."

She is factually incorrect. Neither the Chinese, nor the Japanese and least of the the Russkis are doing well in the export of services. Japan does well in Value Added manufacturing. China does well at manufacturing, period. Russia is "doing well" because commodity prices are high. It is like ersthile India selling Jute. Globalization and the English language are reality. Maybe Farzana can start writing her rebuttals in Urdu instead of English.

Ref bulleya #54

[.....while i tend to agree with your analysis of muslims in pakistan, i am afraid your analysis of muslims in india, is quite a bit off target....

i have seen enough of india now, to realize that muslims aren't doing too well, there......that would be an understatement....i sit in so many IT meetings, where i am the seniormost muslim......barring the odd azim premji, i see line after line of indian hindus (and christians, for that matter) executives achieving success; but ironically, i see no indian muslims......in fact, i saw hardly any in silicon valley or in my universities....]

So, Christians who form a smaller part of India's population, are achieving success while Muslims with larger population base are not.

And you think it is the fault of Indians but not of Muslims.

The problem with Muslims is very simple: it is Mohammad and his Book to End All Books. No wonder Muslims are not willing to study any other book.

Ref Yasser Latif Hamdani #58

[As for the succession plan issue... pray tell sir did Jinnah's demise lead to a war of succession in Pakistan Mughal style? Amazing.]

Yasser, dear boy, what do you call a series of Army generals taking power punctuated by a few "democratically elected" (meaning with rigged votes)?

It looks very much like the Slave Dynasty and also like the post-Aurangzeb succession.

Ref bjkumar #85

[I know, I know – it is not much fun having to choose between the BB, the NS, the Mushy, or the mullah! But things could be a lot worse – you could even end up with the commies!]

It is FAR FAR worse when your choice is between an Italian maid, Lalloo Prasad Yadav and Jyothi Basu.

Ref HP #93

[Why the Muslims in India have not recovered from a loss, minuscule in numbers, in the last 60 years?]

Why don't you ask that question of the four-wives-fcuking, Haj-subsidy-demanding, rioting-over-Satanic-Verses-or-Mohammad-cartoons Muslims of India?

Ref VRV #103

[Ch HP, how can u compare Muslims in Pakistan with Muslims in India?]

What do you expect from a Pakistani? Comparison of Pakistani Hindus to Indian Muslims? Ha, ha, ha. We all know where that comparison would lead to.

I too have my own experience.

My experience was that for every 1 Indian Muslim on an American university campus, there were atleast 25 Pakistanis.... also... I never came across a single Indian Muslim in the Silicon Valley and travelled extensively there.

Economic logic suggests that Pakistan would not have been as developed had it not been separate. Arguing by giving the example of Azim Premji etc is pretty pathetic.


Ranjit,

Then the Congress should have done what Azad was advocating... the acceptance of the cabinet mission plan .. that Jinnah had accepted.

However... I share the view that the situation would have been ultimately be disastrous for both Pakistan and India.

Re: Masanamuthu:"We would be in Nigeria/Lebanon like situation if not for partition.. Hail Jinnah.."

You got that dead right...Worse we could have been "them" as this report shows. MAJ thanks for your yeomen service to India and your fore-sight in removing the riff-raffs, rascals, and looters out of India..and to Pakistan where they are doing excellently well in what they know best...

'Pakistan is world's most dangerous country'
20 Aug 2007, 0813 hrs IST,PTI


WASHINGTON: Terming Pakistan as "the most dangerous country in the world", the US' Senate Committee on Foreign Relations has slammed Bush administration for having a "Musharraf policy" instead of a policy for Pakistan.

"The fact of the matter is, Pakistan is the most dangerous, potentially the most dangerous country in the world. A significant minority of jihadists with nuclear weapons. We have no Pakistan policy; we have a Musharraf policy," chairman of the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Senator Joseph R Biden said at a debate featuring the Democratic candidates sponsored by ABC News at the Drake University in Iowa.