Asif Naqshbandi September 12, 2007
#159 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:07:45 am
if J J Thomson not negate the atomic theory of Dalton , if Rutterford do not done it to Thomson , If Neil Bohr do not done it again to Ruttherford , can we all be in this nuclear age or can Pakistan be a nuclear power , certainly not.
Still thomson bohr and ruttherford all had very good relations among them till their death, will they call each other "kafir' and like that ???????????
Still thomson bohr and ruttherford all had very good relations among them till their death, will they call each other "kafir' and like that ???????????
#158 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:07:28 am
the point is to be noted taht that difference is the essence of a civilized and growing society.Is their ny more precious relationship as between a child or a mother but there are a lot differences in them but will they fight over this , no... two brothers one wants to se soccer match other likes cricket, one siister likes" dal chawal" while other sister eats "Biryani".Now all of them fight over this , not at all.
Actually difference give new ways , open new horizons and create openess as in democracy , every one has a right to disagree , speak and express his or her views , there is no fear of anyone , freedom of expression , so the same case is in fiqah issues every one?( mujtahid) has a right to interprete unless not missing the quran and sunnah and every one has a right to follow anyone he thinks moreknowledgable .Suppose i am from hanafi school of thought and some of my friend is ahle hadees now he has a right to follow anyone or if he not follow anyone, only quran and sunnah, this is his right , who the hell was i to object him or critisize him and the vice-versa.
Actually difference give new ways , open new horizons and create openess as in democracy , every one has a right to disagree , speak and express his or her views , there is no fear of anyone , freedom of expression , so the same case is in fiqah issues every one?( mujtahid) has a right to interprete unless not missing the quran and sunnah and every one has a right to follow anyone he thinks moreknowledgable .Suppose i am from hanafi school of thought and some of my friend is ahle hadees now he has a right to follow anyone or if he not follow anyone, only quran and sunnah, this is his right , who the hell was i to object him or critisize him and the vice-versa.
#157 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 15, 2007 12:07:02 am
majumdar ..its a very long debate ..cannot be in paragraph...waisay aap india mai rahtai hai ???
#156 Posted by majumdar on September 15, 2007 12:04:50 am
Dawa behen,
A small request for you. Rather than post small paras in each interact can you combine a large number of paras into a single interact. It would be much more readable and avoid needlessly increasing the number of interacts.
And by the way, I am counting on you to revive our dying vultures.
Regards
A small request for you. Rather than post small paras in each interact can you combine a large number of paras into a single interact. It would be much more readable and avoid needlessly increasing the number of interacts.
And by the way, I am counting on you to revive our dying vultures.
Regards
#155 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:57:13 pm
This is a brief look at Imam Abu Haneefah (may Allaah have mercy on him) and his madhhab. In conclusion, the Muslim cannot but acknowledge the status and position of these imams, but that should not lead us to give precedence to their views over the Book of Allaah and the saheeh reports from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), because in principle we should follow the Qur’aan and Sunnah and not the opinions of men; any man’s opinion may be taken or left, except the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him),as Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) said.
#154 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:56:01 pm
Imam Ahmad bin hanbal said: “Do not follow me blindly and do not follow Maalik or al-Shaafa’i or al-Awzaa’i or al-Thawri blindly. Learn from where they learned.� And he said: “The opinion of al-Awzaa’i and the opinion of Maalik and the opinion of Abu Haneefah are all mere conjecture and it is all the same to me. Rather evidence is to be found in the reports – i.e., in the shar’i evidence.�
#153 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:54:35 pm
Imam al-Shaafa’i (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “There is no one who will not be unaware of some of the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Whatever I say or whatever guidelines I establish, if there is a report from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) which is different to what I said, then what matters is what the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, and that is my opinion.�
#152 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:54:18 pm
Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “I am only human, sometimes I make mistakes and sometimes I get things right. Look at my opinion and whatever is in accordance with the Qur’aan and Sunnah, take it, and whatever is not in accordance with the Qur’aan and Sunnah, ignore it.� And he said: “There is no one after the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) whose words cannot be taken or left, apart from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).�
#151 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:53:50 pm
Imam Abu Haneefah said: “If the hadeeth is saheeh then that is my madhhab.� And he said: “It is not permissible for anyone to follow what we say if they do not know where we got it from.� According to another report he said: “It is haraam for the one who does not know my evidence to issue a fatwa based on my words.� And according to another report he added: “We are human, we may say something today and retract it tomorrow.� And he said: “If I say something that goes against the Book of Allaah or the report of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then ignore what I say.�
#150 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:53:33 pm
Very important...
In fact, Imam Abu Haneefah and other imams followed the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, even if some of their fatwas were not based on that, the reason being that all four imams stated that if a hadeeth was saheeh, then that was their madhhab, that is what they followed, on what they based their fatwas and from what they derived their evidence.
In fact, Imam Abu Haneefah and other imams followed the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, even if some of their fatwas were not based on that, the reason being that all four imams stated that if a hadeeth was saheeh, then that was their madhhab, that is what they followed, on what they based their fatwas and from what they derived their evidence.
#149 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:52:48 pm
If it is said: If the four madhhabs are based on the Qur’aan and Sunnah, why do we find differences of opinion between them on matters of fiqh?
The answer is: Each imam issued fatwas on the basis of the evidence that reached him. A hadeeth may have reached Imam Maalik on the basis of which he issued fatwas, that did not reach Abu Haneefah, so he issued fatwas stating something different, and vice versa. Similarly a hadeeth may have reached Abu Haneefah with a saheeh isnaad so he issued fatwas on that basis, and the same hadeeth may have reached Imam al-Shaafa’i with a different isnaad that was da’eef (weak), so he did not issue fatwas based on it, or he may have issued a fatwa saying something that went against the hadeeth based on the conclusion he reached. This is why differences arose among the scholars, but ultimately the point of reference is the Qur’aan and Sunnah
The answer is: Each imam issued fatwas on the basis of the evidence that reached him. A hadeeth may have reached Imam Maalik on the basis of which he issued fatwas, that did not reach Abu Haneefah, so he issued fatwas stating something different, and vice versa. Similarly a hadeeth may have reached Abu Haneefah with a saheeh isnaad so he issued fatwas on that basis, and the same hadeeth may have reached Imam al-Shaafa’i with a different isnaad that was da’eef (weak), so he did not issue fatwas based on it, or he may have issued a fatwa saying something that went against the hadeeth based on the conclusion he reached. This is why differences arose among the scholars, but ultimately the point of reference is the Qur’aan and Sunnah
#148 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:52:28 pm
It should be noted that not all the opinions and views of the Hanafi madhhab that is named after Imam Abu Haneefah are the words of Abu Haneefah himself, or can be correctly attributed to him. Many of those views go against what Imam Abu Haneefah himself said, but they were regarded as part of his madhhab because they were worked out according to the guidelines of the madhhab which is derived from the other texts of the imam. Similarly the Hanafi madhhab may adopt the view of a student of the imam such as Abu Yoosuf and Muhammad, and it also includes the ijtihaad of students of the imam, which subsequently became part of the madhhab. This does not apply only to the madhhab of Abu Haneefah, rather the same may be said of all the well-known madhhabs.
#147 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:52:12 pm
Imam Abu Haneefah followed ra’y and qiyaas a great deal in matters other than hudood punishments, expiations and other shar’i issues, and the reason for that is that he had fewer ahaadeeth at his disposal than other imams, because he came before the other imams and was very strict about accepting ahaadeeth, as false reports were so widespread in Iraq at that time and there was a great deal of tribulation.
#146 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:51:56 pm
With regard to the ra’y and qiyaas adopted by Imam Abu Haneefah, what this means is not opinion based on whims and desires, rather it is an opinion based on the evidence, or analogies, or following the general principles of sharee’ah. The salaf used to describe ijtihaad in difficult issues as ra’y (lit. opinion). Many of them used to say when commenting on a verse of the Book of Allaah, “This is my opinion (my ijtihaad) concerning it,� but that does not refer to opinion based on whims and desires, as stated above.
#145 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:51:46 pm
With regard to the ra’y and qiyaas adopted by Imam Abu Haneefah, what this means is not opinion based on whims and desires, rather it is an opinion based on the evidence, or analogies, or following the general principles of sharee’ah. The salaf used to describe ijtihaad in difficult issues as ra’y (lit. opinion). Many of them used to say when commenting on a verse of the Book of Allaah, “This is my opinion (my ijtihaad) concerning it,� but that does not refer to opinion based on whims and desires, as stated above.
#144 Posted by dawa-i-dil on September 14, 2007 11:51:27 pm
Many people narrated reports from him, and he died as a martyr of dropsy in 150 AH at the age of seventy. (Siyar A’laam al-Nubala’, 6/390-403; Usool al-Deen ‘inda al-Imam Abu Haneefah, p. 63).
The Hanafi madhhab is one of the four well-known madhhabs, and it was the first of the fiqhi madhhabs. It was said that “The people are dependent on Abu Haneefah with regard to fiqh.� The origin of the Hanafi madhhab and all the other madhhabs is that these four imams – I mean Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and Ahmad – made the effort to understand the evidence of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and they issued fatwas to people based on the evidence that had reached them. Then the followers of these imams took their fatwas and conveyed them and issued other fatwas based on them, and derived principles from them, and they set out guidelines for understanding the texts and reaching conclusions. Thus the fiqhi madhhab was formed, and the Hanafi, Shaafa’i, Maaliki and Hanbali madhhabs, and other madhhabs such as those of al-Awzaa’i and Sufyaan, but these latter madhhabs were not destined to continue.
As you can see, what these schools of fiqh are based on is following the Qur’aan and Sunnah.
The Hanafi madhhab is one of the four well-known madhhabs, and it was the first of the fiqhi madhhabs. It was said that “The people are dependent on Abu Haneefah with regard to fiqh.� The origin of the Hanafi madhhab and all the other madhhabs is that these four imams – I mean Abu Haneefah, Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and Ahmad – made the effort to understand the evidence of the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and they issued fatwas to people based on the evidence that had reached them. Then the followers of these imams took their fatwas and conveyed them and issued other fatwas based on them, and derived principles from them, and they set out guidelines for understanding the texts and reaching conclusions. Thus the fiqhi madhhab was formed, and the Hanafi, Shaafa’i, Maaliki and Hanbali madhhabs, and other madhhabs such as those of al-Awzaa’i and Sufyaan, but these latter madhhabs were not destined to continue.
As you can see, what these schools of fiqh are based on is following the Qur’aan and Sunnah.
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