Democracy, not terror, is the engine of political Islam

#15 Posted by harimau,

You're welcome :)

Ref zeemax #11

[Don't say I didn't warn you ... hindoos !]

Thanks for the warning.

The current government in India will react in the only way they know how.

They will call a Cabinet meeting and conduct a circle jerk.

#13 Posted by jayp,

Not before very long it will be very 'real' for macacia as well. The rest of the world will come later :)

zeemax,

At the height of jihad in afghanistan, not even a single indian muslim came forward. Now it is more unlikely. What india has to worry about is teh pakis coming to india and messing things up.

For pakistan it is real, the take over by the jihadis supported by bearded general, and then it is a problem for the world.

#9 Posted by echoboom,

:-)

Don't say I didn't warn you ... hindoos !

Osama bin Laden threatens India

Osama bin Laden and his second in command Ayman al Zawhri have called on Pakistanis to avenge the storming of the Lal Masjid. But what has set alarm bells ringing in Delhi is the reference to the Babri Masjid.

Osama bin Laden's new audio tape is not just another invective against Pakistan, but also goes on to compare President Pervez Musharraf's invasion of the Lal Masjid to that of the Babri Masjid.

“Pervez's invasion of Lal Masjid in the city of Islam, Islamabad, is a sad event, like the crime of the Hindus in their invasion and destruction of the Babari Masjid. And this event has crucial and critical connotations,” said Bin Laden.

This threat comes just a day after the Lashkar e Toiba issued a chilling call for Jihad against the Indian Government. Blaming India for playing an interfering role in Pakistani politics and for the growing violence in that country, Lashkar commander Hafeez Mohammed Saeed said, "Over the past years, India has been busy destabilising Pakistan. So there is a need to strengthen Pakistan's defence. This can only be realised if we step up Jihad in Kashmir and Afghanistan".

This is the third such video to surface after the sixth anniversary of 9/11, but for the Indian Government, what seems to be a cause of worry is the new found interest that the Al Qaeda top leadership is showing for Jihad against it.

(http://www.timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=2901)

echodada, weclome back.

That is PRECISELY what it is. For the very first time in recorded history Pakistani 'secularists' seem worried Islam might possibly hit them in their tender spots.

But they also seem completely confident they will push it into submission again, and good old days will be back.

Zeemax:8 :)
Howdy Pardner?

JUB gaaf lagi phatnay
Khairaat lagi bUtnay :) :)

But I'm glad to see at last the 'K' chowk admin is publishing articles for the other side. Guess they hung out some undergarments as well :)

Re Egypt, that's a bomb waiting to explode. The sentiments there are even stronger than those in Pakistan. It's just that the Egyptian Jihadis are busy elsewhere at the moment. The moment Pakistan/Afghanistan is resolved, Egypt will be the next in a jiffy.

Best business to get in right now is guillotine manufacture.

Author,

Pretending that the Islamists do not exist, and that we will not talk to them, is no answer. Only by opening dialogue are we likely to find those with whom we can work ...

Bit late for that now, at-least in Pakistan. It was true before Jamia Hafsa massacre, but not anymore. The Jamia will be fully avenged as is clear by the unprecendented message personally from the Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin , terming Musharraf an apostate and Abdul Rashid Ghazi as the Shaheed, and the same reinforced by Al Zawahiri - on the same day. It is significant that Usama has never challenged anyone personally, not even Bush, but has done musharraf. Sehba must be hanging out a lot of soiled uniforms now.

This also explains the mutilation of the 16 commandos' bodies handed over in Waziristan. It appears that since they regard them as 'apostates', the most excruciating punishment was seen due to them, right in keeping with Islamic injunctions. The apostate Pak military now stands beaten and demoralized by a bunch of Allah's warriors in sneakers who are giving them prompot payback for their 'victory' over a bunch of schoolgirls in burqas with sticks.

There's a pattern to it all. Measured attacks on Islamabad/Pindi, IEDs to cut off surface logistics (Pak army has no food in Waziristan), abductions and selected releases after indoctrinations prompting mass defections, attack on the crack commando unit despite impenetrable security, and Fatwas towards locally recruited military personnel of not being given even a Muslim burial because of their apostasy.

Next is a major assassination. That will come soon.

And the hindoos should stop jumping like monkeys. Their turn will come once the domestic issues are resolved.

The latest osama video calling for the overthrow of pak army is significant, at last osama has declared his intention to get hold of the bomb.

There are already reports that teh pak army, the 300 or so that surrendered to teh tribals did not fire a shot because they do not want to get killed. The pak army has never fought a war, all from kashmir to kargill was faught by the tribals and as such the pak army is in fear of teh tribals.

This is a situation that teh world has to address, if a few tribals come up to the military place where the nuclear materials are kept, it is more than likely, based on the pak army attitudes as demonstrated recently, the army will let the tribals have what ever they want.

"As long as the west interferes in the Muslim world, bombs will go off; "

sheer propaganda!!

It is the muslim world interfering with the west - no one was worried about the rise of ayotollah's ; pukistani mullahs in the west till they confined their cult of hate in killing mushriqoons , munafiqoons only.

West and the rest of the idolator world gets worried when they start attacking like they did in 9/11 , 7/7, 11/7 , kaargil and so on .

It is a fact that the mullah world 'requires' careful cultivation and breeding of hatred towards kafirs and idolators like me that is the cause of woes of the muslim world.
Muslims have to tame the hate verses of Islam and those riding on the top of those verses in order to attack the non muslim world.
Unless and until Quran is pared down and hadiths banished from the civilized discourse muslim would would keep on suffering from the inherent hatred of Islam.

Yes, political islam has to be accommodated and pakistan is the prime example. India has fenced the border, so is iran, there are hardly any foreign airlines operating to pakistan, hardly any foreign investment there, no tourists go there, and having a pak visa on the passport will ensure that you do not get any other visa, so hard to get out of pakistan because no one will allow them in.

We have a model developing and that is the way islamic republics are to be dealt with. I do not see any problems with that.

Even when clamity happens like the kashmir earth quake, that was used by the jihadis to go to pakistan for weapons training.

The world has to learn from experience and develop a standard approach to islamic republics like pakistan.

Ref echoboom #1

[Isalm's resilience & unique ability to rebound has been unparalleled in the annals of human history.]

The only resilience shown thus far has been your ability to stagger home after an ass-raping by the mullah.

THank you Mr.Dalrymple. You indeed corroborate what muslims have been saying at this forum even prior to 9/11.

The west & the westoxicated scum will indeed be given the Iran-treatment..and not in too distant future either.

Isalm's resilience & unique ability to rebound has been unparalleled in the annals of human history.

"Baatil sey dubnay vaaley aye aasmaaN naheeN hUm
sau baar kar chuukaa hai, too imtihaaN hamaara"
...........................................ALLAMA IQBAL.
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Oh heavens, suppressed we can't be by the secularoon creed
Hundreds of times have we been put to this test by you
echoboom