Musharraf the Out-smarter

cliftonbridge #313 anyway...talking of specimen, Musharraf is hardly a specimen worth writing home about. Vote for Wajihuddin!!

Maybe :)in which case someone should point out to this otherwise great specimen of humanity that his mouth is not supposed to have a foot stuck in it.

cliftonbridge #311 Or...perhaps he kisses the ground is wife walks on...

actually chachoo thats no excuse, for all i know he beats his wife senseless. He could have any range of great qualities he still said a fucked up thing.

cliftonbridge: teshah's wife is urdu-speaking, as he noted earlier. So you know his heart is in the right place...

"I may clarify that I do not label the entire Urdu-speaking mohajir community as mataruas"

Very touching clarification. Let me guess - you are the sort of noble person who probably doesnt call ALL blacks niggers either. Clearly you want someone to thank you for this ....karachi salute to you big man. (thats a one finger salute in case you wondered)

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HP

Thank you for your kind response. However I can’t agree with your analysis in toto. We differ in our definitions – my ‘Matarua’ does not include all mohajirs and your ‘mohajir’ does not cover all refugees from India.

Again, Ayub was an ethnic Pathan; Yahya was Iranian-cum-Pashawari and Zia, a mohajir Punjabi. No doubt they were all usurpers and they lied, cheated and betrayed the people, but their style of ruling was quite different from Mush, a typical Matarua. For instance, none else could murder an old man like Akbar Bugti as mercilessly as Mush did. None of them went so far to perpetuate their rule as Mush is doing now so brazenly. Now let us wait to see his nemesis if we live to see that.

At the end I may clarify that I do not label the entire Urdu-speaking mohajir community as mataruas. In fact I would prefer to vote for Wajihuddin, an Urdu-speaking mohajir from Dehli, to any Punjabi leader of today, notwithstanding the fact that I don’t consider it a wise step politically his contesting a bogus election wherein Mush has been allowed to stand with his ‘wardi’ on. It is pity that our politicians are helpless against the dictator politically as they have no legs to stand. This reminds me of an historical boycott of elections by the Indian National Congress during mid 1935.

If I recall correctly, A Roy Sahib stood for election from a seat in Lahore defying the boycott by the Congress. To teach him a lesson the Congress gave ticket to the sweeper of his street. Roy Sahib was defeated by the sweeper very disgracefully. But here the Electoral College consists of majority of ‘lotas’ and the ‘NAB zaddah’ MPs who have been depoliticized completely.

Naqshbandi bhai:305

thank you very much for that Jami couplet. I cherish your sentiments & views.

Here is my little gift for you..and others must watch it as well. New York 24 september 2007:AhmediNejad thronged & feted by Jews. A MUST watch!

It is footage like this which is not shown by the Kanjaroons in Islamic Countries.

How the FUNDAMENTALIST kanjarroon-hating Jews & Muslims can be friends can easily be seen by the love & admiration the NEW-YORK jews bestowed on their great "benefactor of Jews & humanity"...AhmediNejad!

Must watch & mass-e-mail the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-r04SQ97_Q&mode=related&search=

btw did anyone watch ahmadinejad's brilliant speech at the UN. Great courage and what words! Our saviours-in-uniform could never have the guts to say such words of truth. Amazing! He began his speech with bismillah and talking PROUDLY about his religion and about Imam Mahdi alayhisalam. No apologist there. Aur hamaray? "Ka'aba kis munh se jaogay Ghalib? Sharm tum ko magar nahin aati!"

Re: # 297

Wonderful bhai-jaan!

Let me entertain your heart and soul with this couplet of Maulana Abdur Rahman JAMI. The kanjaroons won't appreciate it. So, shoo!


Sagat ra kash Jami nam budi
Ke aavard barzabanat gahi gahi

Zeemax:

My pakistani buddy told me this about the wheat problem in pureland.

he says the wheat production numbers for last year were inflated by a few million based on a phone call from shortcut.

based on this inflated number, pureland exported the wheat surplus it didn't have.

The export of the non-existent surplus meant pureland had to import wheat from "outside"

Anything behind this theory?

#299 Posted by tahmed32,

Yes tahmed, but that was the message delivered to SC that if musharraf is disqualified from presidential elections, he'll remain army chief. In other words, Martial-Law.

Since Hafeez Pirzada has seen it all before, his advice was wise to let musharraf has his way in the least harmful way possible, and let the democratic process continue with him without uniform after he is elected (as he has committed to SC), and let the political parties get rid of him in the assemblies. I have no doubt that they will, and musharraf will have been the better to have gone now.

Re: # 274 Che
[...Face it you guys screwed up. ...]

I agree... we hinuds screwed up big time... which was what I was telling HisEx dude - that Nehru and his daughter made big mistakes on pakiland policies... they were too soft on pakis... if they had taken appropriate actions at the right time - there would have been no kashmir problem, pakiland would have been a peaceful, democratic nation, no taliban, no 9/11 - the world would have been a much different place...

Yep, it's all our fault :)

#297 Posted by echoboom,

Echo, I had not read your post before I posted #298, but I agree. It was a face saving measure for all concerned. SC couldn't have done anything else.

Important thing now is that some very vital petitions are coming up such as NS deportation and 12 May. In the meantime musharraf's candidacy was left open to be challenged in the election commission by SC in their judgement. So the legal fireworks will continue to fly.

HisEx

You pakis ignore history, hence repeat it again and again... All it took was one phone call [followed by some moolah] to discard taliban and 20 years of paki "strategic" doctrine... who'd have thunk it would happen before it happened?... Same can happen with the nukes... Various think tanks in US are already declaring pakiland the "most dangerous" place in the world, as far as loose nuke technology is concerned... the tempo is already building up...

At this time - paki nukes are least of india's concern... India can live with pakis having nukes - no big deal for us... it's now an international problem... the world is very very worried...

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Democracy in pakiland was NOT Indira's prime intention... my point was - by neutering the paki military in '71, she would have 'indirectly' facilitated democracy in pakiland... with no overbearing military establishment - pakiland automatically have grown into civilian rule...

zeemax: While Musharraf and his lawyers talk about the Law of Necessity, I dont think the SC needs to do the same.

And in case of Musharraf this Law of Necessity clearly does not apply, no matter what his lawyers say. I googled on the "Law of Necessity", and found this significant condition attached to its use: Generally, the defendant must affirmatively show (i.e., introduce some evidence) that (a) the harm he sought to avoid outweighs the danger of the prohibited conduct he is charged with; (b) he had no reasonable alternative; (c) he ceased to engage in the prohibited conduct as soon as the danger passed; and (d) he did not himself create the danger he sought to avoid.

There is no way Musharraf could ever pass the above test in any reasonably objective court.