Pakistani Twist to “Aliens in America” TV Series

I think the show is good!
at least it is getting people to talk...and the CRITICS of he show should see that this show actually MAKE FUN of the USA government on their paranoia of terrorism and ISLAM. I think its a good show, its for fun and should be SEEN AS FUN.
Pakis dont always wear the Molvi kinda hats ...all the time..lmao

re : tahmed # 55
nice catch :)

I meant facial hair and body hair...

Regards,

Faruk

Hamid,

Faruk is menacingly close 2 u. Look @ this:


The women had two types of physiques one reminded me of scare crows the other of water buffaloes. The fair complexion they talk about is the color of a lizard just out of hibernation.

The women wear burkha's and the men wear beards, that does cover a lot..I thank Allah for his small mercies.

Faruk: " their women had more hair than me."

So... you are bald. :-)

I think the Pakistanis have developed their own sense of beauty, I remember the first time I went there as a teenager, their women had more hair than me. The women had two types of physiques one reminded me of scare crows the other of water buffaloes. The fair complexion they talk about is the color of a lizard just out of hibernation.

The women wear burkha's and the men wear beards, that does cover a lot..I thank Allah for his small mercies.

The Pakistanis can thank him for their sheep.

I must admit some men had good figures...


Regards,

Faruk

It seems that few chowkies watched the first of the series

of "Aliens in America". The handful that interacted here

give it a mixed review.

I am glad that it is being aired. Maybe after Ramadan and

Tarawih Prayers are done with in another week or so, more

people will catch it on Monday nights.

Ras

RE: #50 impressions

Welcome to CHOWK "impressions"

I hope that you are here to stay.

Superb....

Ras

Re: # 50

impressions,

...... that was funny ! ... but i have already admitted that "madrasis are a lot better when it comes to other things like democracy, rule of law and j2ee programming " .....

.... and what is this bs about being torn between sex and dinner ..... as heartless as it sounds, a man can always have sex before dinner ...

Hamidbhai:

You will be heartened to note that Irfan Mazdak Hussain shares your views about a fault line running right through Attock (see http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm). The fair-skinned Central Asian Highlanders (I refer to the Abduls and not the Toyotas nor Connor McLeod) inhabiting the area northwest of Attock and the darker skinned Sub-continental Flatlanders the area southeast.
However, while you insist that the primary difference in the two stocks is their respective handsomeness and culinary excellence, Mazdak has a slightly different take. He claims that the stock to the northwest (while admittedly fairskinned enough to stir your Europhile loins) are nothing but a bunch of marauding glass eyed fundo a-holes. He also claims that the stock to the southeast (while replete with unnecessarily high amount of melanin) are the paragons of rational and enlightened behavior. Of course he makes his points with characteristic understatement.
Anyway, here’s what we think. We think that if the madrasis are quite content in having Rajnikanth as their sex symbol and want to gorge on idlis and utthapams (not to be confused with Robin Utthapa nor Marvan Attapattu), more power to them. Whatever floats your boat we always say.
Why don’t you leave them alone? Obviously you Central Asian Highlanders have a thing for fair skinned rear ends irrespective of the keister’s gender or species. But the Madrasis simply don’t swing that way. Ugliness is a very relative term. An idli gorging dark skinned Madrasi might consider a sheep’s butt crack ugly but then again a proud white tall Abdul with a full flowing beard might look at the very same crack with deep longing as his eyes flit back and forth between the sheep’s hooves and ass.
Can you imagine the scene? The heirs of Ahmed Shah Abdali, fair skinned and full bearded standing on a scenic hillside in Baluchistan admiring their herd, torn between the sheep’s ass and hooves. Torn between sex and dinner.

Hamid,

LOL*****************

I remeber u telling the ppl btw Punjab and Sind give Madrasis run for their money. Is it true?

(P.S: I read ur posts to shake myself with laughter; I take piss rarely abt ur posts. Keep goin')

Re: # 47

vrv,

..... sorry, but i base my view of madrasis on personal observation and interaction with hundreds of code-coolies from madras (is it the same as chennai?) ...... i am sure there are some fine looking people down there because, if i remember correctly, malik kafur did take his armies down here ....... even though he himself was a eunuch i am sure many of his turk/afghan soldiers were not .......

..... but, vrv, you must admith there is a lot of ugliness south and east of attock - and that includes places in pakistan like multan, dera ghazi khan, bhawalpur, jacobabad and karachi ...... actually the potohar, where i come from, is no paradise either .... luckily for me, my ancestors on my mother's side came with ahmed shah abdali and decided to stay behind ....... if we had left it to grandpa gopinath's genes i would have been just another madrasi .......

..... i know this is a very trivial issue, but i am vain and rather superficial when it comes to looks and food ...... if it makes you feel any better, you madrasis are a lot better when it comes to other things like democracy, rule of law and j2ee programming ........

Hema Malini,
Sridevi,
Jaya Prada,
Waheeda Rehman,

were all Madrasis. Ash may the freak of nature but these gaals are not & Hema may be an Iyengar Brahmin girl but other are not.

Hamid, write something better that stands the scrutiny of reason.

Re: # 43

jayp,

.... you will be delighted to hear that most of the real prostitutes in islamabad are afghanis - the chinese are mostly engaged in running massage parlors and slimming salons ....... we are an equal opportunity employer and i am sure we would be more than happy to employ madrasi girls if you can find any that do not suffer from a severe case of the uglies - which might be a challenge ......

Re: # 40

tahmed,

cw is on cable - it used to be wb (i think)

Fair bodies - dark minds
While pakistanis are celebrating teh fair skin of their bodies, here is proof of their dark minds, 20 private, not govt colleges have reported zero, zero pass in secondary school exams.

Something to celebrate, who can know the knowledge base of a pakistani when the bodies are for sale by the chinese...just think about it scout.

from dawn of today

Going lower & lower


IT IS no secret that the state of education in the country has shown few signs of improvement over the years. An inkling of just how bad the situation has become is available from the notice sent by the city government to the heads of nine schools in Karachi demanding an explanation for the abysmal performance of their students, not one of whom managed to pass the Intermediate examination. It has been argued that the higher secondary schools generally have those students on their rolls who are not high performers and are unable to qualify for admission into colleges. But then, that does not explain why some colleges are not faring any better either. As pointed out by a recent report in this paper, 20 private sector colleges were also hauled up on account of the zero per cent pass rate of their students in the same exams. These colleges can rightly be asked how they would justify their existence.

The beausty of pakistani people that scout talks about is so ingained in the pak psyche that even goverment policies are guided by it. That is why the govt imported chinese to run the brothels so that the beauties could be put to work. That was the casue of teh lal masjid episode when the jihadis captured the chinese brothel operators, and naturally, the brothels being a central plank of pak govt policy of importing brothel operators, the govt sent in the troops.

The scouts views are the central premise and widely accepted by the pakistanis. After jihadis, who provide billion dollars a year for pak aremy, the beauties of pakistan could become a money spinner for pak army.

keep up the good work scout.

Pakistan Call centres are doomed.

A true story from Australia .

"Beyond blue" is an organisation that supports people with depression. They have a help line in Australia, and to save costs the calls are answered from a company in pakistan.

Last week, one person called the line and said,

" Mate, Iam really down and out, I feel like committing suicide"

Prompt came the response

" what would like sir, do you like to drive a car, truck or a bus"...there was a long pause.." may be we will sned you a suicide vest"

The caller was shocked, and Beyond Blue has promptly cancelled the contract.

Nice to see scout back on chowk and the usual argument, pakistanis are fair and hence pakistan is a great country.

chaltahai #39 i have cable. i thought CW was some kind of a channel on cable tv.

You guys shold get cable. There is so much more on cable than on CW

hamidm #37 i didnt. saw a netflix movie instead (The Departed). maybe next time i'll watch it based on your recommendations.

tahmed,

did you watch the show? .... i thought it was pretty good - even mrs hamidm thought it was funny ..... my 14 year old thought the language was kind of mild compared to what some really 'bad' teenagers use in real life ........

....... just to show you where i am coming from - i still think that 'married with children' was the greatest show ever produced by american television .... it shocked the middle-class snoot out of uppity suburban whites who think that their doo don't smell ! ...... one of my neighbours, a busybody named terri rakolta who is related to that mormon - mitt romeny - and who hadn't had sex since the eishenhower administration, tried to lead a boycott of this show .... thanks to her, the show's ratings soared ........

..... this show has the potential of being another hit like married with children....... even if it doesn't, it is sure to piss off both real muslims and good christians .... which is good enough for me !

show was so so...but host's daughter might get more popular than Raja Omair.;)

#34 amansandhu: I am awed by your ability to know with 100% surety what "most pakistanis" think. We Pakistanis can only marvel at such perfect vision, coupled with the world's tallest moral pedestal on which indians stand!!

scout its ok for you to comment on Indians is it, I am 100% right though, most pakistanis will be uncomfortable with dark actor.

The opening line for this article must rank alongside the most hyperbolic statements ever on Chowk. As the Americans would say: Puh-lease!

This might be novel in the USA but on British TV Muslim faces have been prominent on mainstream TV for a few years now.

#31 scout: same reason the ceo stands in line at the cafeteria...

why does she act like she works in a cubicle

scout: amansandhu has the corner office with a great vista of the rolling plains of East Panjab. She does not work in a lowly cubicle!!!

scout, yawnnnn, please come up with something new

amansandhu,

you wouldn't know a tongue in cheek comment if it hit you over the head, bounced off the walls in your cubicle and exploded in front of you

then theres Hamid who says all Indians are ugly and idli isnt a food, tcch tchhh, which middle are you from

Re: # 25

the difference is, middle pakistan or middle india, don't pretend to be the theykedaars of this world

Re: # 23

middle america is no more stupid than middle pakistan or middle india ..... there are people on this forum who believe that 9/11 is a jewish conspiracy and that the american elite are responsible for the filth in the streets of lahore ...... why, there are even people who believe that indians are good looking and that idlee is real food! ....... go figure

Re: # 21

exactly my thoughts! ..... it is hard to breed out the bad genes ........

i thought the show was good, especially the classroom scene where the teacher says 'this is a live pakistani' and when some bimbo says pakistanis blew up the two towers, the kid tries to rectify, and the teacher says 'in this country we raise our hand to answer'

some critic said the show is derogatory to Americans, it portrays them as stupid, but it's true, middle america is stupid

Please visit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeURLmj3ceU

to access the music video with PJ & Salman Ahmad.

I thought that the pilot episode was well done.

It made its point AND it was funny.

The two boys performing prayers towards Mecca together

almost had me in tears...

hamid,
what hapenned to the pak cricket players, most of them are kala kaluta, no babar blood in them!!!!

Re: # 19

agreed ..... the kid in the show is definitely a madrasi - i see it as a jewish-hindoo-cia conspiracy to defame pakistan .... why coudn't they pick a fair skinned madrassa kid from bannu or mardan? ...... and don't tell me all of them are busy practicing to be suicide bombers ! ..... regardless of freaks of nature like aishwariya rai, it is a fact that the land of hinudustan south and east of attock has the highest per square inch quotient of ugliness - a fact that my ancestor babar endlessly laments in his memoirs ...

....... anyway, the show was funny .... some of the humor reminds me of my favourite show 'married with children' ........ it is worth watching ...... i am sure folks like zeemax and masadi will find it decadent and take comfort in the fact that it is yet another sign of the demise of america ........... fools !

the kid shown in the picture is dark, will the pakistanis accept that, after all there are no dark Pakistanis, they are all gora chittas like the angrez, so they let us believe

#16 Posted by aslam644 on October 2, 2007 1:33:34 am


the bastards are giving the pak-brit community bad name.


The pimps are giving the brit-pakis a bad name? What about the whole london/sirline/disco bombing thing?

If anything, the pimps are raising the average income for your sorry little community...

re: Ras

I hope that the humor of the show is not watered down and that it shakes people out of their comfort zones. I remember a sitcom called "All In The Family" and its jokes were rude and racist, but they made a point!

The show must not be politically correct and cater to the whimpy tradition of the networks, but must plough new paths. People will be upset, but that is to be expected, but if the situational humor of the show is accepted, it will lead to a larger acceptance of the differences that exist within the communities.

Humor and laughing at something is always the first step towards accepting it.

It is hoped that character development by the show's creators is done intelligently and with deftness and the characters are not allowed to remain one dimensional.

The nuances in the cultural traits of the characters must be defined more sharply and brought into focus to show that there are differences in the similarities of the characters similarities in their differences. (A phrase borrowed from Rogoff).

The show must not be timid, because the potential is too great to be wasted by playing safe to the gallery.

Ciao

Hamidm
We don’t want assimilation of this sort, unfortunately majority of men invovlved in the sex trade in UK are pakistani, you should see the cars they drive, they have expensive villas in spain where they take these girls for holidays, the bastards are giving the pak-brit community bad name.

“Pimping is lucrative. According to the Metropolitan Police Vice Squad, a pimp can make £300,000 to £400,000 a year selling a 16-year-old girl. There is, appallingly, no shortage of men who wish to buy them. The criminals often use the girls themselves to recruit their neighbours and school friends into the gangs. One mother, who used to drive around the town looking for her daughter when she went missing, says she once saw an older teenage girl apply make-up to two young girls in the street, while older Asian men, whom she recognised as pimps, waited by their BMWs. “The girls then were told to perform a ‘sexy dance’ for them,” says Jean. “But they were so young! I had watched them skipping earlier.”
Despite evidence from rigorous research by organisations such as Crop that the gangs are largely made up of men from the Pakistani Muslim communities, many are determined to downplay this. “What we’re dealing with is gross criminality,” says Kosaraju. “That should be confronted whatever the race of the perpetrator.”
Mike Cunningham, an assistant chief constable with Lancashire police, says he is aware that several recent cases reported to police in Lancashire have involved Asian men, but that the issue of sexual grooming of young girls is not based solely on race or culture.
“Offenders can and do come from a variety of cultural backgrounds,” says Cunningham, “and we deal with each case on its own individual merit.” He says he is not aware of “any accusations of racism from the accused or their respective communities”.
Historically, many of Britain’s pimps have come from immigrant communities – Jews in the early 20th century, Jamaicans and Maltese in the 1950s and ’60s. White, British-born pimps have tended to operate as individuals, rather than within criminal gangs. In recent years, however, young Asian men have been operating in formal, organised networks in the north of England, particularly in the impoverished towns with high unemployment and racial disharmony. “
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2538090.ece

All I can say is, let us discuss the program AFTER it is

shown.

I have seen the preview. It has a number of jokes based

on teenage hormonal topics that do go somewhat overboard

but the Pakistani kid comes out looking really good.

Bhai Arjun may have a fit, but the actor is Hindu so he

just might lighten up.


The Song for the show is done by Salman Ahmad & one local

singer whom I am not yet familiar with.


Parents are cautioned about the humor in this pilot

of the series. I hope they can tone it down a bit later.

Ras

#12 aslam: the man can either build up an airlines, or he can blow up airplanes and buses. he cant do both, unless he has more than 24 hours in a day and is the world's most screwed up psychopath.

as for being a fundo, that is his personal business as long as he does not use religion as an excuse to commit crimes. from what you describe, he is clearly a role model at least with respect to business enterprise. But this is the opposite of what madani had in mind, the one whose "identity" is so fragile they need to protect it every day by living in a prison of their own making.

Re: # 11
Hamidm

That’s to be expected from people who are from rural background, gradual change is better than revolutionary change, its more organic and longer lasting.
I thing UK government will soon put an end to the importation of brides and bridegrooms.

Re: # 10
Tahmed

I don’t know about the assimilated part this guy is a real fundo, I think the reason he’s been successful so far is because he’s a hard worker, he used to drive big lorry full of carpets from Belgium into UK.

Re: # 8

aslam,

......... i am sorry, but i have not seen anything good come out of pakis in the uk even though half my ancestral village lives in bradford, manchester and london ...... sir anwar and his bestway group is the only notable exception ..... the rest seem to be all incorrigible country bumpkins gin ka vilyat nay kuch nahin begara ....... the sad part is that their next generation seems to be equally isolated and cluless about the society they live in - brides and bridegrooms imported from mirpur and choa khalsa have ensured this rot ..........

aslam #8 That is inspiring indeed!! And you are absolutely right about not stereotyping, since in reality there are all types of people in every community - entrepreneurial as well as stuck-in-the-rut.

However, please note that my example were people whom madani sahib was presenting as being the "vanguard". That is, individuals who live in UK, but refuse to learn anything from the experience or to change anything. To launch an airline, you obviously need to have learnt a lot not just in a technical sense, but also in a cultural sense on customer service practices, staff relations, marketing, and so on. In other words, become assimilated and a positive part of the culture you have chosen to move to.

The only relevance to pakistan.

An american portraying some one as a true green pakistani, and doing all harami things...well the only relevant question for you pakis is ..will there be a fatwa on the director???

Salamn rudhdie to some littele known carttonist in island have been honoured by fatwa from the paki jihadic scholars.

So my dear pakistanis, who will cast the first fatwa...the burkha mullah, or the hijack mulla asghar...or will it be tahmed?

Re: # 5
Tahmed
There you go again with your stereotypes. Here is an inspirational story I personally know the family, this guy’s dad came from Mirpur in the 1950’s to work in the steel mill in Sheffield. This guy is only educated to secondary level did various jobs in factories, he then set up a furniture import business and now he has set up an airline with flights to Islamabad.

http://www.ukinternationalairlines.com/default.asp

Re: # 3 I will comment about that when nice mood. I do not like too intelligent people who remember some old things even I do remember. That may be written as misguided youth of yester years. But color is very
not important but VVvIP. later about that.

Re: # 4 Mr. Arjun... I blame weak wanabis who want to be white when they have dark colored and have cream complexion obsession. I have crticised pakistani expaks.
You need to use good glasses from USA, pay good money in dollars there than expakis coming here to fix teaths, eyes, fixing baby fetuses and drinking beeer claiming water is bad in Karachi and raising prices for local people. I did just usa elits peripherialy, tamgent. You need pay real dollars and buy good glasses. You need glasses which can change you mood and find some positive in Pakistan.

ahmedmadani: I have seen those Bradford residents get into PIA planes from UK to Pakistan, and if they are your idea of the Pakistan identity, then God help Pakistan. They get into planes in "fancy", totally impractical clothes (ill-fitting 3 piece suits for men, and women dressed up with full make up and jewelry as if they were a tazia). Once I saw two of these "vanguard" women of yours get into a fight with two of these "vanguard" men sitting behind them, loudly claiming that the "vanguard" men had been doing some mischief. To which the "vanguard" man shouted "oye you shut up!!"

Please spare us such "vanguards". Just pray that in 10 generations they evolve into human beings.

#2 Posted by ahmedmadani on September 30, 2007 6:10:37 pm


This assimilation is not good to pakistani idendity.


First dibs on blaming this on the US elites(TM)..

Re: # 2

ahmedmadani sahib,

..... if i remember correctly, at one time you had advocated marrying white women so that we could have 'milk white' children ..... and i, along with many other 'wheatish' people had agreed ..... have you given up on that position ?

...... anyway, i don't think the elites of the west stand much of a chance in 'deislamising' young believers - the disease is incurable in most cases ........masadi is a prime example - even after spending a decade in the west he returned home without learning the art of personal grooming ........ in any case, i do feel your pain :)

This assimilation is not good to pakistani idendity. It is elites of west who want to deislamise young minds who are born to firm believers. The process of processing young muslims is same as making bread. First break them down pulverise and make redicule of good and bad things in islamic ethos then when they are deminaralised then fortify them with western ideas of rationality, socialism, homo and Transsexual , sex indendity confusion,thoughts, women freedom and misbehaviour as liberal good things like smoking,Zina sex , wearing tight western pants and upper tops which are really not meant for women with 5 children, gambling and now your islamic women in college are drinking to top of that drinking bear and munching burgers mixed with baCON PORK and eating bread made of lard which beef fats and pig fats.I am not against modernality little forlicking with opposite sex for fun but this other things are very degrading and honestly haram. It is sad this pakistani young man is doing all "get accepted" and has become Wanabi Gora christaian. Thinking secular , wondering about existance of god and almighty, profets , going vegetarian and at extreme end becoming vegan and at total perversion the worshipping animals and having pets specially dogs. ( Cats are ok they have tiger as ancestors and they spent all time grooming themselves many desi can learn from them and start taking two baths per day). What is use of person who is so processed to n th degree. That UK has done better as there are cities in uk where they are not trying to become like english gentleman. Places like bradford in england have heard at inner old city has color and atmosphere of any place in pakistan comeplete with butures offering real mutton and properly processed. Therese are real warriers and they are vanguards of coming islamic centers in europe. UK, germany and france, holland all europe has got these necleus which can expand with time. Suburban areas in some parts of paris are controlled by oppressed North african muslisms as uk as pakistani centric growth. Mr. Imran khan ( cricket) is vicechancellar of uk univ which is majority pakistani I am told. Assimilation is death seperateness is life and growth and future of european islamic hope lies there. Elites are trying to say and tell young man in west you may be muslim and you have no common thing with pakistani in heartland of pakistan. There is more connection with peole of heartland than just local white masses. Elites want to make muslims as ordinary citizens but truth is they are different and need to keep idendity intact and connection with Pakistani awam.

It seems like BBC has become a finishing school for south asian actors/directors before they go on to make it big in Hollywood, gurinder chadda, archie panjabi.
In UK asian actors appear on prime time dramas all the time it’s no big deal, maybe the reason is the community here is large relatively.

There is a pak-brit actor ahsen bhatti he played the role of a pimp in BBC drama the band of gold, the violence he meted out to white prostitutes was really shocking, but this guy can really act, he can even give naseeruddin shah run for his money.