A Sad Day for Pakistan

Yawn.

#252 by Yusser

Arab Society- the cradle from where Islam emerged- had a strong matrilineal tradition... Islam while stamping patriarchy did not do away with the women altogether. Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH)'s family continued through Hazrat Fatima (AS). Hassan and Hussain are known for their maternal grandfather... the naming convention which takes father's last name is of recent import. According to Islamic theology on the day judgement we will be called by our mother's names."

The real question is why are Indians so embarrassed of their mothers... I believe the DNA codification says we are much of our mothers as we are of our fathers. Thus choosing a last name is also a similar prerogative which lies with the person who is choosing his last name. Whether one takes up one's father's last name or mother's should be upto the individual. In my case I have taken both my parents' names...because I am proud of both of them. It is also the reason why I insist on not just Yasser Hamdani... but Yasser Latif Hamdani. Hats off to my parents who have always allowed me these choices.

So Yasser mian has now made the ultimate U-turn (it is been quite a while, but I came to know about it just now because of the above post). In addition to abandoning religions and his erstwhile heroes, he has now made the mother of all U-turns, abandoning his native traditions for an Arab one. With such a stellar record of U-turns, wouldn't it be more apt to call him Yusser instead of just Yasser?

While projecting the adoption of his mother's last name as being with the noble intentiion of recognizing the contribution of his mother to his birth, the fact is that Yasser mian is desperate to show that he is very different from the his compatriots (Arbi/Persian background and all), the dirty Pakis.

Dear Majumdar,

Arab Society- the cradle from where Islam emerged- had a strong matrilineal tradition... Islam while stamping patriarchy did not do away with the women altogether. Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH)'s family continued through Hazrat Fatima (AS). Hassan and Hussain are known for their maternal grandfather... the naming convention which takes father's last name is of recent import. According to Islamic theology on the day judgement we will be called by our mother's names.

When a third rate achoot freak from Hyderabad who can't argue on facts gets up and tells me : "Unlike you, I wouldn't adopt my mother's surname even if she were Jhansi ki Rani, because that does not make me into something I'm not. " ... to me it is indicative of the sickness that epitomises Indian culture.

The real question is why are Indians so embarrassed of their mothers... I believe the DNA codification says we are much of our mothers as we are of our fathers. Thus choosing a last name is also a similar prerogative which lies with the person who is choosing his last name. Whether one takes up one's father's last name or mother's should be upto the individual. In my case I have taken both my parents' names...because I am proud of both of them. It is also the reason why I insist on not just Yasser Hamdani... but Yasser Latif Hamdani. Hats off to my parents who have always allowed me these choices.

-YLH

Majumdar,

Kharish is pathetic. I don't have time for him. As you can see beyond the absolute necessity of countering a lie, I feel no need to respond to someone as disgusting as him.

Thank you.

Majumdar bhai, Yasser mian promised me not too long ago that he wouldn't respond to anything I say. Another U-turn :-)

The way he continues to make U-turns, very soon I'll probably have to name him Yusser and not Yasser :-)

#247 by MantoLives

In Pakistan... it is not unusual to find people with friends right across the spectrum... hence Ahmadi kids befriending wahabi kids even is not a big deal.

Sure Yasser mian, you don't have to convince us. It could well be true, but you don't have to rush in to clarify everything. I just said "maybe". But then, the way you jump in does give rise to suspicions if that you were unfortunate enough to have been bullied by the neighborhood kids.

But I am guessing some people would have a lot of problems with Brahmin kids screaming achoot achoot.

Yasser mian, unlike you I won't disown my caste/creed/religion even if were the lowest of the low, because I'm not a mercenary who would do anything for material benefits. Birth is just an accident, I could just as easily have been an Achoot or a Brahmin or even an Ahmadi. If there is one thing a person should be proud of, it is his/her own accomplishment. Unlike you, I wouldn't adopt my mother's surname even if she were Jhansi ki Rani, because that does not make me into something I'm not.

Hmmm...., another derby in the making.

Regards

In Pakistan... it is not unusual to find people with friends right across the spectrum... hence Ahmadi kids befriending wahabi kids even is not a big deal.

But I am guessing some people would have a lot of problems with Brahmin kids screaming achoot achoot.

PS: The fact that you brought in your dad's Maybach in reference to Azim Premji's humble Ford Ikon as some kind of mine-is-bigger-than-yours boast is further proof of this deep-rooted inferiority complex. You sure need some serious psychiatric treatment and soon at that.

Yasser mian, it was never about Gandhi. It was about your desperate attention-seeking antics. Gandhi/Jinnah is merely incidental to my post. Maybe that bit about being abused by your neighborhood kids was true and struck a raw nerve? Nice try, but no cigar...LOL!!!!

kharish mian,

That post (taken as it was partly from Abu-Safwaan's post) was no answer to my questions.

Let us humor you. Lets say I am all that you desperately want to believe I am... then why are you still so hot and bothered by what I think of the racist casteist hindu fascist misogynist supremacist subcontinental nazi "Mahatma" Gandhi?

My reference is to these two statements:

"Wolpert is human, makes mistakes and can be forgiven. Gandhi was not LOL"

and

"Yasser mian calls it evolution and we all agree even the most bone-headed men like him do evolve, but the problem is that he isn't willing to concede the same for others."

Why does it matter so much to you what I think about the half naked fraud- not that I wasn't willing to change my opinion subject to evidence which you failed to produce.

YLH,

Pakistan was created for islam. The most significant islamic conflict is palestine-israel. Three major islamic countries are invited, and pakistan is not one among them. The palestenians want india to the there, can you believe, a muslim country wants a hindu india, and not pakistan created for islam.

Do you thnk this has something to do with TNT, the MFJs lasting contribution to islam, that muslims cannot live with people of otehr religion.

"Abbas urges US to invite India to peace conference

Jerusalem, Oct. 5 (PTI): Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas has urged US to invite India, among other countries, to the November Middle East peace conference.

Inviting India to the conference, which is to be held at Annapolis in US, would provide it "broader international legitimacy", he said."

YLH 240

AS you praise MFJ as the gretaes man, spare a thought for the country he created based on his doctrine of TNT. Read this opinion piece from dawn of today, and tell the chowk, what this man is talking about, teh school books taht glorify Ghazni, the k for kafir education envisaged by MFJ, the core of his TNT theory that founded pakistan.

The man has to be remebered for his contribution to history, and see for yourself the pakistan.

from dawn of today, opinion section

"The question is: why this tolerance of extremism and hate of the other in the most hideous form? The answer perhaps lies partly in political exigencies of the current regime, combined with the glorification of the bigots in our history books. Consider that 11-century bandit Mahmud of Ghazni, who was credited with bringing down idols as he invaded India, raided only those Hindu temples which were laden with gold and other ornamental wealth. Once his empire took hold in the subcontinent, and the rich temples had been laid bare of their gold and silver, idol worship carried on unhindered."

Yasser mian, you may continue to accuse others of having complexes, but the way you indulge in monkey-like antics to seek attention clearly shows the massive inferiority complex you suffer from. The way you play to the gallery, the way you proclaim your patriotism, the way you espouse Jinnah, the way you boast about your riches (what kind of fool would go so far as to claim that his dad drives a Maybach to prove his social standing? LOL!!!) all abundantly prove your constant need for approval. Maybe the fact that you were born an Ahmadi and probably were mistreated by your neighborhood Sunni Muslim kids in your childhood could be contributory factors, but you should seek help before you do irreparable damage to yourself and your family.

PS: You can rest assure that I was very glad you visited the thread. Apparently you've been beating yourself up silly for attention ever since.

Harish mian,

What you've written is as usual those snakes in your head speaking. Inferiority complex is when the raison d etre for your life is to cheer some foul-mouthed interactors' abuse against another person for merely expressing a point of view contrary to yours... You've been banned countless times for abusing me and my famly...

One wonders why you want me to forgive Gandhi ... when you've declared that he is a great person acknowledged blah blah? The long and short of it is... that you've never been able to argue on facts, so you cheer people atif2, thinkingstorm and countless others... you need constant reaffirmation because otherwise that inferiority complex overburdens you.

-YLH