Asif Naqshbandi September 28, 2007
#201 Posted by laddu on October 9, 2007 12:29:52 am
Re: # 199
"any one who finds fault with the messenger of Allah is a devil and and an infidel no matter what he may consider himself.
we would rather you wiped us all out before we would ever renounce our Beloved Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam."
Wolfy! You can do anything you want to with your bandit, rapist hero!! We do not mind whether you shout yourself hoarse belching Allahu on the top of your voice 24X7 -
Just stay off the idolators and do not trouble us with your noise and threats of genocide!!!
Just do not think of ever
"any one who finds fault with the messenger of Allah is a devil and and an infidel no matter what he may consider himself.
we would rather you wiped us all out before we would ever renounce our Beloved Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam."
Wolfy! You can do anything you want to with your bandit, rapist hero!! We do not mind whether you shout yourself hoarse belching Allahu on the top of your voice 24X7 -
Just stay off the idolators and do not trouble us with your noise and threats of genocide!!!
Just do not think of ever
#200 Posted by majumdar on October 8, 2007 9:30:47 pm
Wali sahib,
(we would rather you wiped us all out before we would ever renounce our Beloved Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam.)
We kaffirooooooons/secularoooooooons/murtadoooooons/ kanjaroooooooons may or may not agree on God or Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) being his messenger or not, we do not see that as any reason for wiping out anyone who believes in Allah and the Prophet being his messenger. Or forcing them to deny their beliefs. Hopefully one day good Muslimooooooooons like you too will be able to give the same respect to us (various) ooooooooooons.
Borivilli mian,
I am not denying the bad deeds of some Hindus against other Hindus sometimes sanctified (allegedly) by religious scriptures.
(I thought Ram was the ideal Arya?)
Some Hanuds do believe that, others dont. But even if they dont, they dont get persecuted under Blasphemy Laws.
Regards
(we would rather you wiped us all out before we would ever renounce our Beloved Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam.)
We kaffirooooooons/secularoooooooons/murtadoooooons/ kanjaroooooooons may or may not agree on God or Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) being his messenger or not, we do not see that as any reason for wiping out anyone who believes in Allah and the Prophet being his messenger. Or forcing them to deny their beliefs. Hopefully one day good Muslimooooooooons like you too will be able to give the same respect to us (various) ooooooooooons.
Borivilli mian,
I am not denying the bad deeds of some Hindus against other Hindus sometimes sanctified (allegedly) by religious scriptures.
(I thought Ram was the ideal Arya?)
Some Hanuds do believe that, others dont. But even if they dont, they dont get persecuted under Blasphemy Laws.
Regards
#199 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 8, 2007 8:45:35 pm
any one who finds fault with the messenger of Allah is a devil and and an infidel no matter what he may consider himself.
we would rather you wiped us all out before we would ever renounce our Beloved Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam.
we would rather you wiped us all out before we would ever renounce our Beloved Messenger sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam.
#198 Posted by borivili_express on October 8, 2007 8:44:29 pm
So u deny the actions of hindus against untouchables, dravidians, budhists and tribals? as I expected.
I thought Ram was the ideal Arya?
I thought Ram was the ideal Arya?
#197 Posted by majumdar on October 8, 2007 8:27:34 pm
Borivilli mian,
Hinduism is today much more of a religion of the "Dravidians" and Adivasis than of "Aryans". The chief Gods we wroship today are all non-Aryan.
Shiva/Parvati- Dravidian God of the Indus Valley
Rama- Probably a native chieftain raised to divinity
Krishna- Imported by Semitic tribesmen.
By contrast the Aryan Gods- Indra/Agni/Mitra/Varuna are practically forgotten now.
And as far as Buddhists are concerned, we have made Buddha an avatar of Vishnu. While u guys are busy destroying his statues.
Regards
Hinduism is today much more of a religion of the "Dravidians" and Adivasis than of "Aryans". The chief Gods we wroship today are all non-Aryan.
Shiva/Parvati- Dravidian God of the Indus Valley
Rama- Probably a native chieftain raised to divinity
Krishna- Imported by Semitic tribesmen.
By contrast the Aryan Gods- Indra/Agni/Mitra/Varuna are practically forgotten now.
And as far as Buddhists are concerned, we have made Buddha an avatar of Vishnu. While u guys are busy destroying his statues.
Regards
#196 Posted by borivili_express on October 8, 2007 8:08:15 pm
When you apologise for the actions of your ancestors against budhists, dravidians, untouchables and tribals we will apologise for any real (against fantasy)actions of our ancestors, since your actions came first you apologise first.
#195 Posted by laddu on October 8, 2007 7:48:50 pm
Finally- you all have not asserted that it is wrong to kill idolators and kafirs!!!
Can you assert the principles I asserted in 186 & 185?
You cannot because your prophet was a murderer, rapist and a bandit and you all think that is what SUNNAT is all about!!!
Your 'spirituality' in sufi/mullah Islam is all sham!!
Can you assert the principles I asserted in 186 & 185?
You cannot because your prophet was a murderer, rapist and a bandit and you all think that is what SUNNAT is all about!!!
Your 'spirituality' in sufi/mullah Islam is all sham!!
#194 Posted by laddu on October 8, 2007 7:44:52 pm
Re: # 193
It is important for all muslims to get this absolutely wrong notion about their "masoom" Prophet and accept his short comings. He is NOT a role model for modern muslims!!! Get this falsity out of your heads and STOP professing LOVE for that fallbile man who killed , raped and looted- this blind adminration is what is turning Islam into a blood thirsty mafaiso cult!!!
It is important for all muslims to get this absolutely wrong notion about their "masoom" Prophet and accept his short comings. He is NOT a role model for modern muslims!!! Get this falsity out of your heads and STOP professing LOVE for that fallbile man who killed , raped and looted- this blind adminration is what is turning Islam into a blood thirsty mafaiso cult!!!
#193 Posted by laddu on October 8, 2007 7:40:14 pm
Re: # 190
This Sudra thing is a thing of the past!! Modern hinduism has evolved and changed. No one can get Manu Smriti enacted- it is impossible to do!!
Yes, but all those muslims would jump up and ask for Shariat at the first opportunity and saying that it is all for the LOVE of that bandit!!!
Islam is Sunnat and what Prophet did - he killed and raped - unless muslims condemn him and his actions than try to justify with stupid logic there is no way to reform Islam!!
This Sudra thing is a thing of the past!! Modern hinduism has evolved and changed. No one can get Manu Smriti enacted- it is impossible to do!!
Yes, but all those muslims would jump up and ask for Shariat at the first opportunity and saying that it is all for the LOVE of that bandit!!!
Islam is Sunnat and what Prophet did - he killed and raped - unless muslims condemn him and his actions than try to justify with stupid logic there is no way to reform Islam!!
#191 Posted by borivili_express on October 8, 2007 1:36:30 pm
what about the the non hindu pagans in India like the dravidians who u made dasa and the tribals whom u destroyed and what about destroying the budhists who were allover India before harshvardhana? you destroyd them all, subjugated and converted them? u didnt leave any trace of their cultures nor did u leave a majority of them unconverted unlike the muslims
you inflicted violence and a subhuman existence on the lower caste sudras you hypocrites
you inflicted violence and a subhuman existence on the lower caste sudras you hypocrites
#190 Posted by borivili_express on October 8, 2007 1:36:28 pm
what about the the non hindu pagans in India like the dravidians who u made dasa and the tribals whom u destroyed and what about destroying the budhists who were allover India before harshvardhana? you destroyd them all, subjugated and converted them? u didnt leave any trace of their cultures nor did u leave a majority of them unconverted unlike the muslims
you inflicted violence and a subhuman existence on the lower caste sudras you hypocrites
you inflicted violence and a subhuman existence on the lower caste sudras you hypocrites
#189 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 8, 2007 12:50:15 pm
so when hindus burnt muslims alive in gujraat and godhra it was wrong?
#188 Posted by laddu on October 7, 2007 8:10:27 pm
Re: # 184
"Being a Hindu you must believe in Samsara and Karma as has also been indicated and quoted by me in my previous post."
Yes, Samsara and Karma are Sanatan Satya.
But that does not let me accept violence from Adharmic people.
I would do my karma to oppose all persons with the Adharmic and Rakshasi Pravritti.
"Being a Hindu you must believe in Samsara and Karma as has also been indicated and quoted by me in my previous post."
Yes, Samsara and Karma are Sanatan Satya.
But that does not let me accept violence from Adharmic people.
I would do my karma to oppose all persons with the Adharmic and Rakshasi Pravritti.
#187 Posted by laddu on October 7, 2007 8:07:05 pm
Re: # 184
"Were the pagan military campaigns any better in this regard?"
All violence done by any prophet or religious head against any other religion is condemnable.
Can you repeat that??
"Were the pagan military campaigns any better in this regard?"
All violence done by any prophet or religious head against any other religion is condemnable.
Can you repeat that??
#186 Posted by laddu on October 7, 2007 8:05:35 pm
Re: # 184
"pagan demolition campaigns in the Jewish land and the cynical and total destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem unmentioned."
Every violence , by any one , on any another civilization, culture or its religions symbols, idols and temples is despicable.
Can you assert that??
"pagan demolition campaigns in the Jewish land and the cynical and total destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem unmentioned."
Every violence , by any one , on any another civilization, culture or its religions symbols, idols and temples is despicable.
Can you assert that??
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