Good on ya Bangladesh!

zahid #78 good point.

mr. madani #77 well put. please feel sorry for miserable man, mr. jayp - he has to live with his misery 24/7, and can share his misery with the rest of chowk only part-time. :-)

MQM clientel has been playing the mantra of 'stranded Pakistanis' and Pakistan's responsibility toward them for a long time certainly not because of the pain of these Pakistanis which was overwhelming. Had human pain and suffering been the real issue then the same clientel would also have raised a loud voice against the pain and suffeing of the bonded labor in Pakistan -- stranded on the island of slavery. Strangely not a hiss was ever heard.

It's hard to say whose pain is more cruel -- of those who're abandoned in the camps and had to live without human dignity or of those who were also abandoned by the state to fall prey to the feudals and criminal busines mafia and have to live and work without human dignity as slaves -- but the callous and persistent silence of MQM clientel on the pain of the Pakistani bonded labor is immoral. This happens for the obvious reason that the MQM clientel has blood ties with these stranded Pakistanis in Bengladesh and not with the people in the Pakistani villages working as bonded labor.

Re: # 76 Mr.Jay are you getting obsessed with YLH or what ?
As you said so went and checked YLH attire. There nothing wrong , its standard dress people in court system use. My honest suggestion leave this stuff start doing something you enjoy than just writing with poisened pen. You really get kick by criticizing any thing with named or related to pakistan.
Any way good evening for you and all.

YLH,

I liked your new picture in the ilog. Long time since I saw a man with cuff links, button down collars and some shining things on the table.

I undestand that 70 percent of teh clothing in pakistan are second hand imports, that explains your old style outfit.

HP 53,

Thanks for agreeing with my assertions and here are my specific comments




"I am just amazed at your persistent idiocy. First you claimed that one millions have been denied citizenship when that was shown to be false you come back with this 1978 gig.
So no one was denied citizenship and some were asked to adjust their status in 1978."

In the earlier post you said that east pakistan was part of pakistan and hence they were naturally pakistani citizens.

Now you are telling that their status need to eb adjusted. That implies that the bengalis were not naturally pakistani citizens, their status needed to be " ADJUSTED". What does that mean my friend, an adjustment that was not required for non-bengalis.

"That change was important as the residents of the Former Pakistan were technically still Pakistani. But that legal definition is clearly beyond your puny little brain."

If they were still legally pakistani citizens, what was this adjustment, which I am sure none on chowk can understand. It is important to note that this adjustment was only for bengalis, which only your TNT infused mind can understand.



"Afghans as long as they enjoy the refugee status granted to them by the UN are not illegal."

So the afghans had a legal status as refugees because of teh UN, but the bengalis who are from east pakistan needed adjustment, eventhough according to you they were citizens of pakistan. Because of the UN, they were allowed to go anywhere in pakistan, but because of the adjustment requirements, the bengalis are in slums in port karachi.

Your arguments may make sense for the TNt educated pakistanis, but it cannot make any sense to other other than that bengalis are treated differently because of tehir colour. There is noithing wrong with it, what scout and hamidm talks about as teh beauty of pakistanis is a deeply engrained social value that guides pak policies.

I would appreciate you will accept the fact, another reality information for the pakistanis.

Re: # 73
Thanks for explainung .

Ahmad Madani sahib,

(ROTFL stands for)

ROTFL means rolling on the floor with laughter, which is my usual reaction after reading ur posts. Sahib, you bring out the truth in very earthy language and I always look forward to ur posts.

(I assume your are bengali babu.)

Yes.

(Always wonder what is caste indian political leaders of years years extremist specially from that area namely Charudutta Muzumdar , Kanu Sanyal, Jangal Santhal.)

Mr. Sanyal is Brahmin, Santhal a tribal, Mazumdar I dunno Majumdar is not a caste specific surname really.

(What was/is caste composition of CPM leadership)

All sorts. Buddhadeb Babu is Brhamin, Jyoti Basu Kayastha, Mr. Anil Biswas SC. WB CPM is fairly non-casteist in outlook. The ONLY good thing than can be said about them, else a complete bunch of retards.

Regards



which is from bengal of yesteryears and today.

Re: # 66 Yes MQM are dangerous people, very good to friends and worst to their enemies.All sindhis know the bitter truth. Now those Sindhis tell differently are two types one group is foolish and others are damn scared to utter.

Re: # 70 Mr.Mujumdar....What is that acrinoym ROTFL stands for. never read before.
I assume your are bengali babu. Always wonder what is caste indian political leaders of years years extremist specially from that area namely Charudutta Muzumdar , Kanu Sanyal, Jangal Santhal. First is dead what about others. What was/is caste composition of CPM leadership which is from bengal of yesteryears and today.
thanks for reading comment, you are kind to comment with appreciation.
Good day.

Ahmed Madani sahib,

(just like if gates are open to usa for desi india and pakistan will be empty. )

ROTFL.

One of the truest words ever spoken in chowk. Just wonder how the native gora Americans wud react to a billion plus desis landing up in USA.

Regards

I look at this event differently. This has exposed "hollow claims " of MQM leadership to good extent.
Sindhi ( natives) opposed tooth and nail as they correctly new if allowed over million b.desis will pour to pakistan just like if gates are open to usa for desi india and pakistan will be empty. Pakistni expanding economy is far preferable slowly sinking in water land of B.D. Last time in floods 50% of BD was under water. So rational people will like to jump from sinking ship.
Sindhi's were always fearful when they think of aftermath of partition is biggest loosers were natives. As energetic, people from India poured they were hungry for land and it was struggle for survival , no place for fairness and just like Red Indians of USA Sindhis have retreated to back waters. Two largest cities of Karachi and Sindh are not sindhi cities but Urdu speaking cities. They have legitimate complaints but their complaints have no value as similar to red indians against immigrants. The overlords of sind are not sindhis but MQM. To bring more Urdu speakers could have devastating effect on unitary nature of state. Bringing Urdus even moraly correct but in practical consideration was suiciadal as sindhjis bave retreated quite long and they are depressed and can help "Sindhi nationalist" by staring and and pouring petrol on fire.All defeated can be peaceful even in defeat if equilibrium is maintained.No body can blame sindhi speaking natives. Only person travelled at rural areas sindh can understand the anguish they feel. They maynot like punjabis but they hate MQM supremacy in Sindh.
This has exposed insincerity of MQM as they were rulers of Pakistan for atleast last 5 years of general rule. They could have brought govt to knees. But they did not care much , they gave big mouth and almost I feel they want to keep problem as sore to galvanise.Bengal Govt has exposed MQM hollowness of "crying for Biharis".They never demanded about Biharis to be brought in real sense all crocodile tears. Many times people claim one of big aim of organization and then it is washed out without whimper.
Good morning everybody.

Re: # 64
He was modern American ( quite rare as americans are like Punjabis practical people) philosppher and wrote few good books including I have read reason in science, and other reason in religion( not ) sure .

Re: # 65, Shishapa, with all due respect - mind you own business - no one wants Jinnahpur , heck it was all madeup it been proved at the courts ; atleast on two occasions.

Sindis, have a serious genetic disorder problem - can not not progress!

#63 Posted by shishapa
"Your attitude is almost like Raja Dahir.
Be warned, one of the mohajir M B Qasim is going to
kick your utt someday. "

utt khay kick deenda si tay hoonju moot vi pean pondoo. Sindh is not Hind!

Who is George Satyanarayana?

Anyway, I do not think you now history.
Otherwise, you would not have tolerated a third
dictator for one day!

OK, enough bs from me. But I must say

Mohajirstan (area around Karachi up2 H'bad) Zindabad
Jinnahpur (Karachi) Zindabad