Good on ya Bangladesh!

jayp is worth no one's time. Poor guy is still scalded from something some Pakistani did to him 10 years ago.

He is a poignant commentary on the inferiority complex that every Indian harbors towards Pakistan really.

HP Sahib,
Sir, if you go back to my posts – what I said ‘ that the illegal migration from Bangladesh started post – 1971 fiasco.

On applying for a Permenent Pakistani Residence – one of the most difficult / major step is to get a NoC Letter from F.I.A and establish genuine grounds for your stay in Pakistan.
As to your mis-conception about greasing clerks and getting a Pakistani Citizen – that could have been a fair assesment uptill 2002 but not now thanks to a better co-ordination from NADRA, Local Councils, FIA and Ministry of Interior.
For Aliens in Pakistan – very few people know that there’s a organization formed by the Pakistani Government named National Aliens Registration Authority (NARA). It is claimed by some that the atleast 10% of the whole population of Karachi is illegal ( majority of them Afghan Nationals , Bengalis and Burmese).
The classical case of any illegal to come to Pakistan was to first get a NIC domicile certificate – which thanks to NADRA , Local Councils and relevant agencies stopped.
Bengali Community ( apart from others ) constitutes a high percentage of MQM votes where on occasions Town Nazim’s , Councellers of atleast Orangi Town were Illegal Bengalis.
FIA has a large stake in promoting illegal’s so that they could blackmail and get money from poor Bengalis, Burmese and Afghans to get money.
These Bengalis , Burmese are hard working people – and are very poor ; I personally believe that GoP should give them a chance – although GoP started a Refuge Registration Card for Afghans ; we somehow forget those who migrated from our eastern borders!
Sucide Bomber which killed Alama Turabi in Karachi turned out to be a illegal Burmese.

PS. Sir, I never claimed that I am a IB officer - I work for the police. You are more than welcome to have a cup of tea ,coffee . A message away!

Re: # 33

Hmm this is interesting.
Sochanewali baat hai kay, why should Indians harbor
inferiority complex towards Pakistan?
What does Pakistan has that India is lacking?
I think only thing ahead Pakistan is ahead is
mistreating its minorities, may be squash and
billiards, and hockey.
But what else is there to feel inferiority about?
May be geographic location????

Okay, I somehow missed on a point that there’s a systematic bias against illegal Bengalis, Burmese and Srilankan(s) in Pakistan ; whereas GoP gave over 2.15 million ‘Afghan Registration Cards’ – while ignoring over 1 million other illegal nationalities in Pakistan.
As opposed to Bengalis, Burmese who are generally law abiding people , Afghans are involved in all sorts of crime – such as encroachments, drugs, prostitution, Islamic Extremism, propagation of banned-religious hate literature and suicide bombings.

#6 Tahmed

"as for mohajirs in Pakistan, i dont have a problem with what anyone among them chooses to call himself."

I have a BIG problem if a Pakistani were to call themselves a Hindustani. That is why I object to anyone calling me a HindustanRaa. Or whatever. Formation of Pakistan was never for me – or mine – a beeelundur!

"my problem is with the mqm-types among them - individuals who berate other ethnicities in Pakistan and individuals who support the dictatorship on the basis of ethnic affiliations."

So we are speaking the same language then. I too say my problem is with the jaag panjabi jaag-types who berate other ethnicities in Pakistan and individuals who support political leaders on the basis of affiliations. I would never vote for a party whose leader calls me a chooha.

As for the name Mohajir re Pakistan - so last century!

United we stand…and grow and prosper.

JAAG PAKISTANI JAAG

#36 Posted by IB
“there’s a systematic bias against illegal Bengalis, Burmese and Srilankan(s) in Pakistan ; whereas GoP gave over 2.15 million ‘Afghan Registration Cards’ – while ignoring over 1 million other illegal nationalities in Pakistan.”

Again you make wrong assumptions. The Bengalis, Burmese and the Srilankans are illegal immigrants whereas the afghanis are legitimate refugees and they have been given this status by both Pakistan and the UN.
Afghanis are given registration cards based on their refugee status. I am surprised at your putting this as bias where there is none, at least officially.

Afghani involved in crimes is a different matter and that needs to be handled by the police and other crime prevention agencies.

Thanks for your offer.

#35 Posted by shishapa on October 3, 2007 6:16:39 am

Oh you just have an inferiority complex because manto's dad drives a maybach(cough cough) and yours doesn't.

Are any refugees legit?
Afghans came to Pakistan illegally just as Bengalis came to Pakistan. What would you call Refuges who never reported to the Refuge Camps? It is estimated that 2/3 of the Afghan’s never reported to any authorities in Pakistan and still they were offered Registration Facilities whereas, other nationalities were ignored. There is certainly institutional bias against Bengalis – where they are left out to be hounded by FIA and sometimes Police. Thanks to MQM – a lot of them become nationals.

T-Ahmed you wrote,
"my problem is with the mqm-types among them - individuals who berate other ethnicities in Pakistan and individuals who support the dictatorship on the basis of ethnic affiliations."

Aha, I think it’s the Ponjabi’s through there Punjabigardi are the one’s creating divisions amoung Pakistanis. They presume that Pakistan is Punjabistan and that other ethnicities living are alien creatures.
MQM – supports Mushraff not because he’s a urdu speaking man but because he is fair to other provinces apart from him being a liberal and a honest man unlike Punjabis who hate Muhsraff just because he’s not Punjabi.

Stop all this philosophical crap!! Those Bangla Desis did not have real estate to bring with them, unlike kashmiris about whom Pakis have wet dreams that they will bring one to the Land of Pure.

Fking Pakistani they got Pakistani in the name of All the muslims of Indian subcontinent its another matter people like Moulana Azad ,Himayun Kabir and Even Dilip Kumar Saira Banu were saw these idiots wanting everything but giving nothing sala cheat

shishapa,

The way you guys spend your entire lives abusing Pakistan and Pakistanis makes one think that you guys have pathetic personal lives... and even less confidence in your "shining" India.

The only hindoo women ..in america specially... that hate pakistanis r usually the ones that pakistanis refuse to date. Now thats not fair...i know that they need reall beef eating men 2 but wat r we suppose to do with our sense of smell? N if its really a matter of life n death for them than can't they find a friend who would have running water in there bathrooms n maybe they can take a shower..n while they r thRowing caution to the wind ..deodrant might not be bad idea either...ohh yeah n wipe that disgusting dot as well...one last thing i promise...its called cooking oil..please leave it for cooking...ur head is not capable of frying onions

First of all Ahmer Sahib, you need an Editor.

But that said (I often use an Editor too)

you have written an article that is not only right on the

money but better than what many of us could have written.

This issue has been a major problem with the GOP.

tahmed sahib and others should put a cork in it this time.

I was recently thinking about the "Right of Return" of

Nawaz Sharif and how citizens of Pakistan cannot be kept

away. I had agreed with that but would someone please file

a lawsuit against the GOP for keeping the Stranded

Pakistanis in Bangladesh away from this same right?

Maybe the "new found" powers of the Supreme Court can be

used here too.

And just maybe someone we know can take up this case when

he has time and energy left over from putting down Gandhi

and now ZAB.

The plight of the stranded Pakistanis is a national shame.

And I have heard every excuse possible for denying them

the right of returning to Pakistan. The worst excuse was

that Bangladesh was a brotherly Muslim country and should

take them.

I can only wait for the day when these hypocrites will

shut up and someone will do the right thing.

I spent years with these people called "Biharis"

This is personal!

Ras

Re: # 43

Cool, now you are expert in psychobabble also?
You Pakistanis are amazing, no wonder you needed
a country for yourselves!

Re: maffrejal #24
“I just got a thought. does this mean Pakistan is not about islam? If so, should not they accept any Muslim who wants to be a citizen of pakistan? thinking further “

There you go again, taking pot shots at the Pakistani identity. Any attempt to answer your questions would confuse the hell out of an average Pakistani.


Regards,

Faruk

Re: # 47
Probably the recommendation to seperate religion from state makes sense?